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[Kyria the Great]

What fools that said that it was stupid for people to use cars to flee the hurricane, when in reality that it's the most efficient way to flee given how (generally) amazing the American National Highway system is. The fact that we can generally evacuate a city region of well over a million people in about 48 hours or less should be celebrated and revered that our forefathers had the foresight for such eventualities. A train system meanwhile would be get delayed and have too many points of failure to get everyone out in a safe and timely manner.

 

[Yamamura]

What fools that said that it was stupid for people to use cars to flee the hurricane, when in reality that it's the most efficient way to flee given how (generally) amazing the American National Highway system is. The fact that we can generally evacuate a city region of well over a million people in about 48 hours or less should be celebrated and revered that our forefathers had the foresight for such eventualities. A train system meanwhile would be get delayed and have too many points of failure to get everyone out in a safe and timely manner.

Plus as even a user on fuckcars said they'll eventually cut service when it becomes infeasible to transport out more people. So at that point I question what are they going to tell the people that still haven't made it out yet, "lol, good luck"?

Even with a mode of personal transport you can still have the freedom to take your chances to escape, but I'd love to see these urbanists try to escape on their cargo bikes. For some reason I feel like they would unironically agree with the idea of trying to flee on a fucking bike during an emergency and say it's acksually better than a car.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

For some reason I feel like they would unironically agree with the idea of trying to flee on a fucking bike during an emergency and say it's acksually better than a car.

The hurrycano is only traveling at 9 miles per hour! Any bike should be able to outpace that!

 

[indomitable snowman]

The hurrycano is only traveling at 9 miles per hour! Any bike should be able to outpace that!

The benefits of living in a vibrant apartment pod is you can fit all your belongings on a precariously packed cargo bike.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

What fools that said that it was stupid for people to use cars to flee the hurricane, when in reality that it's the most efficient way to flee given how (generally) amazing the American National Highway system is. The fact that we can generally evacuate a city region of well over a million people in about 48 hours or less should be celebrated and revered that our forefathers had the foresight for such eventualities. A train system meanwhile would be get delayed and have too many points of failure to get everyone out in a safe and timely manner.

It's easy to throw a few suitcases and backpacks into a car, including things that you can't transport on trains, weapons, bulky items, food, and so on. Trains have slow loading and unloading procedures.

Lol the unfunded liabilities of municipal pensions. Aka grifter politicians (usually corrupt Niggers who run the town like a West African despot) getting platinum benefits and pension plans.

That's the killer, not infrastructure. Plus, if things were like how they claimed they worked, all of these big cities would be doing better and better annually as lower-density housing is replaced by higher-density housing.

 

[quaawaa]

More hurricane posts:


You don't need a car that can carry your belongings, just use insurance to replace your stuff:


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The reply is correct:


Just hike inland (Don't, you'll be killed by the cars that are stuck in traffic!):


No, the carbrains might want to improve infrastructure instead of giving up their cars:


Or maybe they'll blame immigrants:


But maybe they'll convert to our religion:


A completely fake story about people drowning in Texas because they got stuck on the highway:


EVs are better than gas cars in an emergency because you can recharge them with solar panels:


Brightline could save them:

lol:


More train love:


Apparently the trains couldn't safely run during Katrina:

The benefits of living in a vibrant apartment pod is you can fit all your belongings on a precariously packed cargo bike.

You joke but:




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[reptile baht spaniard rid]

These absolute train-brain fucktards. I think the NJB and transit crowds have fallen to the train autists.

Fucking busses are perfect for evacuations! They have all the advantages of cars and most of the advantages of trains! My goodness!

More and more I think reddit, especially fuckcars, is just seething europoors trying to imagine what life in the USA is like.

 

[TowinKarz]

What fools that said that it was stupid for people to use cars to flee the hurricane, when in reality that it's the most efficient way to flee given how (generally) amazing the American National Highway system is. The fact that we can generally evacuate a city region of well over a million people in about 48 hours or less should be celebrated and revered that our forefathers had the foresight for such eventualities. A train system meanwhile would be get delayed and have too many points of failure to get everyone out in a safe and timely manner.

Train v Hurricane?

Hurricane wins.

The train was delayed several times en route and back by debris/obstacles blown onto the tracks and couldn't get out of the way of the storm surge. Say what you will about a downed tree, but, you have a chance to drive around it, or detour on anything hard enough to drive over. Trains by design can't go around things and have to stick to tracks.

If something damages/blocks the tracks? You're fucked.

These absolute train-brain fucktards. I think the NJB and transit crowds have fallen to the train autists.

Even train autists like me know what the realistic limitations of trains are, unlike these guys who are so nerdish and obsessive even the real obsessed nerds want nothing to do with them.

Observe:

You're thinking about the theoretical maximum speed; they're complaining about the overall average speed. The cope is that long-distance trains would be much more competitive if they didn't have to wait for freight trains, etc. Which is true, they WOULD be a bit faster average speed; but the reality is that unless you have true high-sped rail on dedicated lines, it's not that much faster than a car, assuming the train isn't a direct-shot, no stations.

The last time trains were used to move large amounts of people they didn't seem to like it so much ....

Ignoring, of course, that trains CAN move large amounts of people but if anything goes wrong with the rails, they're screwed.

Even busses are better and can go to different places and on different roads (even off road a bit if needed).

Even if there were no freight trains? The right-of-ways here in Central Pennsyltucky max out for safe rail travel at 45 - 55 mph. And in some places its even lower. You cannot go faster or you fly off the rails due to sharp curves and steep grades.

You can buy the fanciest most expensive trainset they make, and push all the freight cars off a cliff, and you'll STILL only be averaging 40 for your entire trek across the Commonwealth because you literally cannot do it faster without killing yourself.

Even those fancy-schmancy tilting trains could only do it at 65 - 70, not a meaningful gain for the cost of the tech.


The bottleneck in getting increased passenger service in North America is, and has always been, an infrastructure issue, not a scheduling issue.

We just don't have the TRACK for high speed operations, which is why you end up sharing the line with freight.... that's the only track option you have.

 

[Bonesjones]

The only benefit trains have is you can conceivably take every train from an evacuation area, stack them at the most concentrated points, then fill release, fill release, etc. Moving a large number of people all at once. The only issue is you have to be setup for it and it has to be done preemptively. Even with modern forecasting, no one puts in that level of planning or effort.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

You don't need a car that can carry your belongings, just use insurance to replace your stuff:

I love how they don’t consider that Insurance premiums would skyrocket to the point that getting insurance doesn’t make sense anymore. Getting raped by the big insurance companies

The only benefit trains have is you can conceivably take every train from an evacuation area, stack them at the most concentrated points, then fill release, fill release, etc. Moving a large number of people all at once. The only issue is you have to be setup for it and it has to be done preemptively. Even with modern forecasting, no one puts in that level of planning or effort.

Lol I would love to see them evacuate the niggers in an orderly fashion on the train

The train would look like the New Orleans Sportsball Dome after Katrina

 

[Bonesjones]

Lol I would love to see them evacuate the niggers in an orderly fashion on the train

The train would look like the New Orleans Sportsball Dome after Katrina

"They ouchere tryana holocauster us!!!"

 

[indomitable snowman]

EVs are better than gas cars in an emergency because you can recharge them with solar panels:

Except it might catch on fire


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Tesla catches on fire after the flooding from Helene. Think your home survived the flooding? Try again, it's now on fire thank to the electric car getting wet.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/tesla-catches-fire-in-garage-flooded-by-hurricane-helene-in-horrifying-video/ar-AA1rueOd

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

We just don't have the TRACK for high speed operations, which is why you end up sharing the line with freight.... that's the only track option you have.

Yeah, from what I hear the eastern corridor is a fuck of fucks.

What they take is the large flat sections in the plains, where Amtrak can do 70+, and say it could be everywhere but for the freights.

But it's not the case - you have to do major track upgrades also. Some portions of track in southern california is finally rated for 70+ MPH but to go to the next speed limit, they have to install positive train control (basically, signals that if a train blows the red it activates all the stopcocks and the train screeches to a halt).

The freight railroads don't want to pay for that because it costs money and delays, so it has to be entirely funded by Amtrak or the feds.

 

[DavidS877]

I mean, one there's likely not nearly enough rolling stock in the country to evacuate Tampa in a reasonable time unless you're using boxcars.
And they're also missing where do these trains go. Eventually the people have to get off the train. With cars once people are out of the danger zone they can disperse to different locations, friends, family, hotels, or even just sleep in the car.

The Tampa metro is 3 million, no idea how many will actually leave, but I'm guessing it's a pretty large number.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

The Tampa metro is 3 million, no idea how many will actually leave, but I'm guessing it's a pretty large number.

People really underestimate how big numbers are. 3 million people is 33,333 Amtrak Superliner cars.

If you want to evacuate them all, you need that many railcar-trips. Make long trains of 20 cars even, they have to come back to refill, or you need 1,666 trains ready to go to evacuate. If you need to go 3-4 hours away to "be safe" you're looking at a ten hour round trip including loading, unloading, you can't get more than 5 of those in before it's too late - so you need a minimum of 333 trains, each 20 cars long.

That's batshit. That is ten times as many superliner cars as there are in service, all held in reserve for one city.

 

[Yamamura]

EVs are better than gas cars in an emergency because you can recharge them with solar panels:

How down to Earth they are to assume everyone has or can afford solar panels on their roof. In an actual shit hits the fan situation where the reliability of power is going to be questionable for the next weeks or month the last priority is hoping that the fridge is still running. At that point you're relying on non-perishables and using a gas camp stove to cook.

With gas once your run out you'll be SOL

This guy realizes the same could be said of electricity too right? And you can't store electricity into a jerry can as they don't make battery banks for electric cars or at least not ones that are very good. The viability of gas will always outweigh EVs as shown in third world countries where the grid has questionable reliability.

Also that's ignoring the most obvious point, if you're evacuating, how are you charging your EV from the solar panels from your house?


Also I'm not sure if the second guy was having a dig at the first guy saying "you know you can turn a gasoline car off too? when you're not moving" but the redditors were too stupid to pick up on it and upvoted him anyway.

I would pay a lot to see these fuckcars redditors actually try to survive one of these disasters using the advice they preach and see how far they get. The comforts of urban living have desensitized them to how to actually react during a SHTF moment.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

The viability of gas will always outweigh EVs as shown in third world countries where the grid has questionable reliability.

You can also store tens of even hundreds of gallons of gas easily (diesel even easier) whereas gigawatts of electricity isn't being stored by anyone.

It's hilariously asinine that they're using this disaster as a "cars bad" when all they have is a picture of a traffic jam.

 

[Yamamura]

More and more I think reddit, especially fuckcars, is just seething europoors trying to imagine what life in the USA is like.

It's hilariously asinine that they're using this disaster as a "cars bad" when all they have is a picture of a traffic jam.

This is what I love about all this. As much as they try with their copes to argue why they're actually winning or living better. All the "well aksuallys" will not save them in the end. When it comes down to the brass tacks they know they're fucked and their ideas will not hold up no matter how much deboonking they do. They try to convince themselves that all their bad ideas are actually good ideas.

When they see the prepper chud cooking using his propane camp stove and evacuating using his gas SUV. The redditor will still go "well aksually this is why he's actually the one who's fucked". While the redditor sits in his dark apartment with whatever leftover doordash meals are slowly going bad in his warm refrigerator.

I think that's why the fuckcars people hate self sufficiency so much, because they know if it truly came down to this type of scenario they would die and they hate the idea that their car brained adversaries would have a better chance of making it compared to themselves.

 

[TowinKarz]

You can also store tens of even hundreds of gallons of gas easily (diesel even easier) whereas gigawatts of electricity isn't being stored by anyone.

It's hilariously asinine that they're using this disaster as a "cars bad" when all they have is a picture of a traffic jam.

As we know, a hurricane NEVER damages roof-mounted solar panels.

Nature just goes around them because she respects your green choice, right?

Right?!

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

As we know, a hurricane NEVER damages roof-mounted solar panels.

Nature just goes around them because she respects your green choice, right?

Right?!

Ah but hurricanes bring wind so just use your windmills, child

Checkmate, chuds.