Hurricane Milton

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Some pics from today
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Part of the seawall collapses near Vinoy
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The crane that fell into the Tampa Bay times building
And of course
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The Trop has fallen, millions must Rays Up.
 
Im a st peter and I haven’t yet seen the aftermath in my area, im hoping im gud bc i live relatively close to the bay

From what i have seen of the destruction in nearby areas so far on tv, it seems like the damage isn’t catastrophic but still pretty gnarly. I can only imagine how Sarasotas doing
Drove all around the peninsula from Gulfport to up off 92nd avenue near the Howard Franklin. Tornados definitely did a number on certain areas. We'd be driving around and there was a standard level of city wide violence, then suddenly it was like a bomb went off. Just massive oak trees uprooted. Not broken branches, the whole tree ripped out of the ground and tossed over a road, on a car, or on a house. 1st Ave N from 40th to 49th was a warzone. Definitely had a tornado touch down in Central Oak Park. Old Northeast was the same.

Overall we made it out ok as a city but certain areas are just wrecked. Millions in property damage.
 
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most hurricanes don't kill more than like 24 people.

Hurricanes actually kill way more than those numbers. 15 years post hurricane study found an excess of 7-11,000 deaths from hurricanes. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-024-07945-5
Funny thing about numbers. Back when Charlie (a borderline category 3/4) Hit Charlotte County back in 2003 or 2004 they made a big deal about 11 people dying then it was realized that as it was a retirement area and the average daily death rate was 13 per day that Charlie had actually saved 2 lives. I always found that humorous.
 
Florida kiwi here Naples is going strong. No damage just no power. Sucks but I hear up in port charlotte it’s worse.
Port Charlotte still hasn't recovered completely from Ian

It's funny you mention that because I heard from a friend about a couple who ended up dead exactly like that!
From the big black niggers or drowning in the attic.
 
Surge is always an issue, and considering it was a Category 5, those waters that were being pushed around during the peak are going to keep moving. Now, this storms eye was quite small, so coastal areas have thankfully been spared more extensive damage.

Regarding the hype... Damned if they do, damned if they don't, the NHC and governing officials have to make a judgement call without perfect information. The storm did reach some records for lowest pressures, top 5 in the gulf being one of them.

The feature description is just going to pull in spergs with muh apocalypse.
 
Sorry I have been skipping, but from the news I have caught this looks to have been bad but not as bad as feared - I am so glad the mercurial nature of events like this has played out in peoples favour for a change.

Yeah, i wonder why they haven't learned how to build buildings that can actually survive this. I mean, it only took a few earthquakes for the japs to get the memo and learn how to build earthquake resistant buildings, so, what's the holdup

As other have said they have, but there are extremes you can't build practically for, and in Japan they have gotten amazingly lucky so far that nothing seems to have hit them in something like Tokyo from my understanding they take the average damage force double it add a little and design for that (apart from a big show off buildings that are also questionably rated at the upper end) - traditional buildings are designed to be flexible to account for earthquakes and the walls are less dense and Castles with Stone walls are built on more solid ground and took more than a few attempts / rebuilding efforts to get it right.

Quite a lot of buildings are built for this the best they can, but a lot of pensioners are living in Florida in trailer homes which is about what they can afford.

Actually you can:
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That's a design for a hurricane and flood-resistant small building/house, but as others have bitched about in this very thread its not pretty so its better to get your mcmansion's siding fly to the other side of the state every year I guess.

Correct me if I am wrong but isn't the main failure mode in buildings in Hurricane and Tornado zones interior / exterior pressure differentials. It's not something I am used to working with so pardon any ignorance in this regard but other than shear mass an density one of the ways a building can physically survive (may need some work doing to it but i mean the core of the building) opening the doors and windows (an removing the latter if possible) and allowing the wind to blow through and deal with the possible flooding etc another way or afterwards.


I am shocked that it lasted as long as it did tbh, while those cranes are designed to withstand some insane forces they have a limmit an while are quick to erect and take down they are not as fast as people think so disassembling them isnt always an option, normally you free wheel them an retract the gib as best you can an kill the power to them, while it's bad that it collapsed at all I am impressed it lasted with that kind of force.

Nah, it's just a box of sheetmetal. That's usually how those things are built, it's cheaper for the company to make sheetmetal boxes and replace them than to actually make a competent structure.

Containers are robust bastards, a lot of the ones used or designed for Sea transit are extremely well sealed to the point that if a container spills from a ship in a storm it can pose a threat to other ships an shipping years down the line because it hasn't taken on water.

I know a dude who has one that was washed ashore on the south cost of the UK and uses it as a office that was used to transport BMW motorbikes, it was underwater for a week and everything in it was taken out bone dry and still dry today, it was dragged off the beach using a toyota hylux using scaffholding tubes as rollers.
 
Surge is always an issue, and considering it was a Category 5, those waters that were being pushed around during the peak are going to keep moving. Now, this storms eye was quite small, so coastal areas have thankfully been spared more extensive damage.

Regarding the hype... Damned if they do, damned if they don't, the NHC and governing officials have to make a judgement call without perfect information. The storm did reach some records for lowest pressures, top 5 in the gulf being one of them.

The feature description is just going to pull in spergs with muh apocalypse.

It's also so far removed from reality/what people experience on the ground. Milton still will have destroyed plenty of peoples lives even if they didn't die. These "nothing happened" retards who are nowhere close to the impact zone don't realize that for every destroyed building you see on the TV, someones existence is tied to it and they're now fucked.
It's almost like they wished for something equivalent to the boxing day tsunami. I urge every one of these retards to watch this and just be happy this wasn't even close to being as bad

 
My understanding from what the weather journalists said like half a week ago when it was a TS was that it was going to strengthen considerably and quickly and then weaken right before landfall. Most of the people that bought into the hype didn't actually listen to the weatherman. These are the same people that seethe when the weatherman says there's a 30% chance of rain and then it rains. The lesson here isn't that it was "hype" or you got "lied to" it's that you fucking suck at understanding weather reports and you should either do better or fuck off.
 
Welp, this thread was interesting and informative for a couple days at least. Shame it had to end this way.

Florida Kiwis, I am very happy you're safe and I pray you all have minimal issues post-Milton.
 
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