Was Hurricane Milton a nothing burger?

[Abbadon's Gate]

It literally is. We have been discussing hypotheticals extensively

No one who is saying "Nothing happened." is discussing hypotheticals. They're saying nothing major happened.

Maybe this is where the tension in the thread is coming from. Half the people are speculating on how bad it could be, and the other half are looking at the news reporting from the last few days and comparing it to reality and saying it was overhyped and not at all serious compared to what they were told was going to happen.

Oh yeah? Why didn't harvey lose it's strength then when it hit land, retard.

I mean it clearly did since it fizzled out retard. Harvey's damage was because it hit Texas which has terrible hurricane mitigation resulting in mass flooding.

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

No one who is saying "Nothing happened." is discussing hypotheticals. They're saying nothing major happened.

Maybe this is where the tension in the thread is coming from. Half the people are speculating on how bad it could be, and the other half are looking at the news reporting from the last few days and comparing it to reality and saying it was overhyped and not at all serious compared to what they were told was going to happen.

Non-Floridians won't understand. They're just defending their news-believing habits from their armchairs. You can't be right because the news said you're wrong. And COVID was deadly too.

 

[A Cardboard Box]

after the US military successfully strengthened monsoons in Vietnam.

You're referring to Operation Popeye, which was just a couple of cargo planes seeding clouds over Laos and Cambodia during Monsoon season. We're aware cloud seeding kinda works sometimes. This wasn't the government creating or strengthening hurricanes or anything. It also didn't work very well.

In 2001 they dropped a few tons of the powder out on a storm off the coast of Florida, absorbing 4000 tons of water and successfully destroying the storm in minutes. NOAA cut ties with them in 2003, shutting the project down before the company could test the powder on a hurricane.

This is schizophrenic bullshit.

 

[Abbadon's Gate]

Non-Floridians won't understand. They're just defending their news-believing habits from their armchairs. You can't be right because the news said so. And COVID was deadly too.

True and real.

 

[GumboVariation]

I don't disagree. The only reason Categories get as much attention as they do is because its the easiest way to communicate potential severity to people.

The most immediately thing people should be concerned with is Storm Surge, if they're on the water. That will kill you if you don't leave.

Wind is up next for debris.

Then a lack of power in the days to come affecting critical infrastructure like hospitals.

Immediately after that access to fresh water then food.

Water, Food, and Power are now the most important factors and there could be a crisis there still potentially. However as of yet I've seen no evidence of that.

basically, yeah. If Milton hit a little bit more to the north with the storm surge directly in front of Tampa Bay, this would have been far worse. So this was definitely not an "overhyped" hurricane. a couple wobbles close to the coast and that could have well been the case.

Also, what are the means a country has to respond (evacuation, repairs, food supply, hospitals etc). How robust is the infrastructure in the first place and so on.
Those are the factors people should be worried about, not if it makes landfall as a cat 3,4 or 5

 

[A Cardboard Box]

it was overhyped

It wasn't. This is the crux of the issue.

You are literally the nigger that cannot understand what he would feel like if he didn't eat breakfast.

 

[Abbadon's Gate]

So this was definitely not an "overhyped" hurricane

I have to disagree with that. Go back to around page 50 and earlier in this thread. People were literally saying they might have to classify it as a Category 6 and it was approaching the upper limits of what was possible. It did neither of those things. That is clearly evidence of it being overhyped.

But otherwise I agree with your synopsis.

 

[WhiskeyJack]

This is schizophrenic bullshit.

It’s not, it was broadcast on the news back then. Doppler radar and everything. NOAA cut ties after the test. I remember CNN bringing them up after Katrina. None of this is a conspiracy theory or whatever.

Edit: Here, found some old Popsci article about it:

Dyn-O-Mat in Jupiter, Florida, manufactures superabsorbent products, such as garage mats designed to soak up oil from leaky cars. The firm is developing a gel that has shown promise in early trials. In July 2001, Dyn-O-Mat engineers dumped 8,000 pounds of their Dyn-O-Gel (an amount capable of absorbing 4,000 tons of water) over a small thunderstorm near the Florida coast. Within minutes, the storm disappeared from Doppler weather radar.

In a hurricane, the result would be two-fold. First, as the clouds dried out, the storm would wither. Then, as superchilled Dyn-O-Gel droplets fell into the ocean beneath a storm, they would further weaken it by cooling the warm water that fuels its growth.

Dyn-O-Mat’s founder and CEO, Peter Cordani, has already arranged to lease a specially rigged 747 “supertanker” to conduct trials on actual hurricanes.

 

[A Cardboard Box]

it was approaching the upper limits of what was possible

It did do this. It was the fifth strongest Atlantic hurricane in history. It is the strongest late season Atlantic hurricane in history.

It’s not, it was broadcast on the news back then. Doppler radar and everything. NOAA cut ties after the test. I remember CNN bringing them up after Katrina. None of this is a conspiracy theory or whatever.

I'd like a reliable source on that.

 

[Abbadon's Gate]

It did do this. It was the fifth strongest Atlantic hurricane in history. It is the strongest late season Atlantic hurricane in history.

It wasn't an Atlantic Hurricane.

 

[A Cardboard Box]

It wasn't an Atlantic Hurricane.

Oh, you literally don't know what you're talking about. This makes way more sense now.

 

[VientreGordo3000]

It wasn't an Atlantic Hurricane.

The Gulf of Mexico is part of the atlantic so yes it was.

 

[Abbadon's Gate]

Oh, you literally don't know what you're talking about. This makes way more sense now.

Nigger it spawned in the Gulf of Mexico and travelled from the Gulf towards the Atlantic.

 

[Matzo Nazi]

It did do this. It was the fifth strongest Atlantic hurricane in history. It is the strongest late season Atlantic hurricane in history.

I'd like a reliable source on that.

Found what they're talking about, it was killed as a project cause it didn't work and might have actually made hurricanes stronger. Plus, you'd need a nearly impossible amount of this stuff flown into a hurricane to even possibly do anything.

https://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/tcfaq/C5d.html

 

[Toji Suzuhara]

Nigger it spawned in the Gulf of Mexico and travelled from the Gulf towards the Atlantic.

The Gulf of Mexico is not an inland sea

 

[Abbadon's Gate]

The Gulf of Mexico is part of the atlantic so yes it was.

Pure semantics for the sake of argument. The Atlantic and the Gulf behave very differently, especially since one is considerably more shallow and warm than the other.

 

[A Cardboard Box]

Nigger it spawned in the Gulf of Mexico and travelled from the Gulf towards the Atlantic.

Holy shit, you're actually retarded. This is incredible.

Pure semantics for the sake of argument. The Atlantic and the Gulf behave very differently, especially since one is considerably more shallow and warm than the other.

Hey, retard, wanna know a secret? "Atlantic Hurricane" is a technical term. It has an actual, functional definition that NOAA, NWS, and everyone else on the planet uses. Milton was literally, by definition, according to the people that created the term, an "Atlantic Hurricane."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Atlantic_hurricane_season

Found what they're talking about, it was killed as a project cause it didn't work and might have actually made hurricanes stronger. Plus, you'd need a nearly impossible amount of this stuff flown into a hurricane to even possibly do anything.

https://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/tcfaq/C5d.html

Much appreciated. I'll keep this in my pocket for future schizo debooonking.

 

[MadStan]

Six people died and you had some flooding and wind damage off of "The theoretically limit of what the Gulf of Mexico was capable of producing."

Nothing happened. Kill yourself.

Screw you. If they hadn’t of evacuated millions it would have been entirely different. You’re the first cunt on KF I think deserves a dildo avatar for a year for being such a genuine, 100% certified cunt. It’s not that you bother me particularly but even those with different opinions on here drive me nuts; but seldom would I think they are genuine cunts - like you.

 

[Abbadon's Gate]

Holy shit, you're actually retarded. This is incredible.

Fine, you've convinced me, I'll have to eat the L on that, though the terminology is incredibly stupid. There's vast differences between the Gulf and the Atlantic.

 

[A Cardboard Box]

Fine, you've convinced me, I'll have to eat the L on that, though the terminology is incredibly stupid. There's vast differences between the Gulf and the Atlantic.

I'm sure your reasoning is sound and you have very compelling arguments. You should write a letter to NOAA and the NHC.