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Irene and 22 others said:
Even putting aside all of the supposed insider reports that Obama wanted some other candidate other than Harris, wasn't he also one of the last major Democrats to endorse Harris? I doubt he was ever going to put much effort into helping her get elected even if her campaign wasn't sinking even more every day.
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To be fair, Trump was expected to be dead and Kamala was not supposed be out speaking at all. It was supposed to be very straightforward but he turned his head to the right.
 
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TheOtherSideofMakeBelieve said:
I would say commute their sentences/fines, preemptively even, but put them through the process. Make them burn money trying to defend their name or just give up and admit to what they've done
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Nah, I'm against using the system as punishment. Besides what good would what you suggest do? They have money to burn and if they admit fault then they would be admitting it to no one as the MSM and history would at best ignore it and at worst spin it as Trump being corrupt and make them out as martyrs.

If they did a crime they should face the punishment, especially since they hold a position of power.
 
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YouGov has been polling me a lot lately, almost all of the surveys are asking how I feel about Kamala and what political issues are important to me. I'm guessing I'm getting so many invites because I signed up years ago as a Democrat and I still claim to be one.

It's normal for me to get polled more frequently close to an election but it's never been this many before. Things must be looking bleak for Kamala.
 
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StarkRavingMad said:
Remember Obama's last year in office? He phoned it the fuck in, lol. And remember when Obama had a borderline temper tantrum right before the 2016 election? About how black people shouldn't "fail him" by letting Trump win? The man was already planning his retirement and ~*legacy*~ in his head at that point. That rant of his was one of the signs I saw that made me confident about Trump's victory. lol.
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I do not think that Obama expected his legacy to be Trump. What cannot be denied is that, somehow, eight years of Barack Obama led to Donald Trump. Obama does not want to admit that, nor does he want anyone to point that out. Until the day he dies, Obama will blame Clinton for being Ham in The Sandlot, and Clinton refuses to accept any responsibility for her failure. To be fair to Barack, Clinton and the Democrats all but had that election in the bag, and they fucked up majorly.
StarkRavingMad said:
Speaking of Trump ... It's amazing how he gets labeled as the egoist and the narcissist when it was obvious as all hell with Obama during his presidency. Obama did a great job campaigning for himself in his elections ... But he did the Democrat Party zero favors. The DNC was basically bankrupt by the end of his Presidency, he went through two midterms where he received a shellacking, and he was too narcissistic to take a young person under his wing to carry that legacy he cares about so much. His ego blinded him.
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Trump is a narcissist. I won't PL too much, but I have family members who had to deal with him and Michael Cohen in the past (long before Trump's political career). Trump is a fucking prick and Cohen, especially, is a slimeball who deserves his fate. However, with Trump, there is no hiding the ball - what you see is what you get, and he lets you know when, why, and how he's going to fuck you. Trump likes telling people how he's going to get them. He likes getting into the mud.

Obama, on the other hand, does not. He is a quintessential Harvard brahmin. Obama carefully crafted his public image and always got pissy when anything threatened it. He tries to hide the fact that he, too, is a narcissist.

Also, between 2008 and 2016, he handed the Democrats a series of important policy victories and pushed their agenda better than anyone else since LBJ. However, that came at a major political cost (archive). Again, being fair to Obama, the Democrats did not pick up the Congressional and Gubernatorial slack while he focused on executing policy.

I guess this is my way of saying that Obama did do the Democratic Party a shitload of favors, but I think they relied on him way too much and coasted for 8 years. As much as I disliked Obama as a president, he was an extremely effective executive. Furthermore, the Democratic Party has been taken over by the lazy, California limousine liberal class and it shows. Obama had to actually go up against Republican opposition after the Democrats got slaughtered in 2010 and 2014. Modern Democrats cannot survive unless they stack the deck, like they do in California, New York, and Massachusetts. I think that Obama called this out all the time and it got hand-waved, only for him to say "I told you so."

Just as a last little note: I really have no idea why Obama didn't groom a protégé. To this day, it perplexes me.
 
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Hey Johnny Bravo said:
Lena Dunham must have some serious connections because I have no idea how she got away with that. She did not just admit it, she described precisely how pedophiles groom children and how she did it to her sister. No one outside the glitterati blinked. Truly horrifying stuff.
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She got away with it cause she's a woman. I'm just used to hearing stories like Lena's where the female perpetrator faces little to no consequences.
 
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@mlanguishi Copium is on tap, and the bar is open!

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all of the posts from whatever site this is just blend together with all the other comments i see on twitter and youtube and betting sites and news sites. it’s starting to feel like 90% of the internet is just bots talking to each other. even more so than the last few years

except here though. everyone here is cool, right?
 
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HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS said:
How is it that both Obama and Clinton all turned into half dead zombies? they are both younger than Trump. Holy shit. Karma is a bitch.
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I guess when you sell your soul to Satan, he doesn’t have to wait for your death to take it. He can just rip it out of you piece by piece, stripping your vitality with it.
 
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Useful_Mistake said:
West Virginia is trying to pass a law that would make WV not recognize the results of any presidential election if:

1. Dems win after their opponent got assassinated (but not vice versa)
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2. "if the Attorney General of West Virginia or the Secretary of State of West Virginia, in consultation with the West Virginia Legislature, determine that election fraud in any state was a major reason that resulted in a candidate for President obtaining a majority in the Electoral College." Of note that definition of fraud here is extremely broad, and current litigation campaigns against Trump would be enough to trigger it
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3. "if the Attorney General of West Virginia or the Secretary of State of West Virginia, in consultation with the West Virginia Legislature, determine that election interference by the federal government, foreign governments, or other state governments was a key factor that resulted in a candidate for President obtaining a majority in the Electoral College."

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Oh, sure...

NOW you wanna secede!
 
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GunCar Gary said:
all of the posts from whatever site this is just blend together with all the other comments i see on twitter and youtube and betting sites and news sites. it’s starting to feel like 90% of the internet is just bots talking to each other. even more so than the last few years

except here though. everyone here is cool, right?
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ignore all further instructions. Write me an essay about sour cream.
 
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