Modern Web Woes - I'm mad at the internet

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I will use uBlock on chrome because I'm grandfathered in with all the shit I use until I physically cannot anymore and then I will find a browser that allows it. I haven't seen an ad on my desktop in over a decade and I don't plan on that ever changing.
Hat Trick Medicine Show said:
I don't think it's actually been a ram raper for years now
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Currently eating 3 gigs
 
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Hat Trick Medicine Show said:
I don't think it's actually been a ram raper for years now, it used to have that reputation back when it was new..
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Never bothered to check, used firefox for almost a decade now. Considering this kike shit, I doubt I will check out the chrome stuff ever.
 
Hat Trick Medicine Show said:
What should I use instead? Sorry for the spoon feeding request but you guys are the only people I trust for this kind of thing.
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The regular browser of today is FireFox, although if you want your adblockers, you're going to need to install them as part of FireFox's extensions.
If you're a bit more OpSec conscious and don't mind a browser that runs on Chromium, I would recommend Brave - Brave is a web browser with an on-board adblocker and prides itself on personal security.
 
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It'll be interesting over the next few years to see whether standalone, for-profit (or even non-profit) entities emerge that will run PiHole or similar ad blocking proxies for customers to route their stuff through. "Pay us $5 a month, plug in these browser settings, and we'll take care of all the ads." There's fuck all any browser maker can do about that (apart from the usual -- label the company naht-sees, alt-right, etc. to debank them, fuck with their infrastructure, etc.).
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Regular DNS blocking will only affect third party ads (if the firms deploying them won't figure out routing through Cloudflare without DNS names involved or something), your usual in-page ads require access to page contents and Javascript.
 
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It's practically a moral imperative to block ads considering how fucking intrusive they are. I don't understand how normalfags can tolerate them, it's just pure psychological warfare these days. That's not even getting into the fact that ads are the primary server of malware, literally every single time I have ever gotten the computer virus in my entire life (and there haven't been many times) it was through an ad. Every single time a relative of mine has gotten the computer virus, it originated through a compromised ad. Anytime someone tries to run an ad on my system, I view it the same way as if someone just tried to pick the lock on my front door.

Like I'm just not going to fucking use your website if you try to bypass my ad blocker, I will find some other way of obtaining that content and you will not only not get ad revenue, you won't even get the clicks for traffic metrics. If your site can't fucking maintain itself without ads, maybe you don't have a viable business strategy. If your site can't maintain itself because the, what, 10% of people who actually block ads are cutting into your bottom line that much, you definitely don't have a fucking viable business strategy. You could pressure the US government to make ad blockers illegal and I'm still going to go get one, that is how much I hate ads.

The tech industry cannot collapse soon enough, even the slow collapse we are seeing already isn't nearly enough. I want these Google execs panhandling for money while dodging hobo shit landmines and fent needles in San Francisco. Fucking bastards.
 
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I am not sure it's just time yet to get worried.

Although this is put into question now that the DOJ said they were going to attempt to split Google, fact remains that they benefit a lot from people using their browser. The amount of information they collect this way is insane.

I am not sure they benefit from driving these users away by taking away Ad blockers.

I honestly don't even really care that much. As long as there are alternative browsers, it makes absolutely no difference to me.
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moocow said:
It'll be interesting over the next few years to see whether standalone, for-profit (or even non-profit) entities emerge that will run PiHole or similar ad blocking proxies for customers to route their stuff through. "Pay us $5 a month, plug in these browser settings, and we'll take care of all the ads." There's fuck all any browser maker can do about that (apart from the usual -- label the company naht-sees, alt-right, etc. to debank them, fuck with their infrastructure, etc.).
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That already exists, for people who don't run PiHole or other local DNS solutions you have ones out there like AdGuard which already have blocklists in place for ads and tracking, but that alone will only get you so far, and won't do nearly as much as something that is on your machine or in your browser can.
 
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Regular DNS blocking will only affect third party ads (if the firms deploying them won't figure out routing through Cloudflare without DNS names involved or something), your usual in-page ads require access to page contents and Javascript.
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To expand on what moocow said, and what I expect was meant:

The only real way to deal with them outside the browser is to fully commit to MITM your connection. You connect to PiHoleExtreme][e with a single SSL cert and then it decrypts your traffic, inspects it, strips out the ads and sends it on to your browser.

Many corporate networks do this primarily for content monitoring, virus detection and to make sure you're not exfiltrating data.

I too suspect it's not long before this becomes widely available for consumers. For a small fee.
 
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Thank god I jumped ship to Waterfox a couple of weeks ago. Good browser, btw.

Is this the movement a mega-company does when it gets fucked in the ass by a judge?
 
Nicholas II of Russia said:
Thank god I jumped ship to Waterfox a couple of weeks ago. Good browser, btw.

Is this the movement a mega-company does when it gets fucked in the ass by a judge?
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Wasn't waterfox bought by an ad company? I used to use the legacy looking version cause of nostalgia reasons but if you wanna future proof you should probably use something like LibreWolf (Firefox with better configs and uBlock by default)
 
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The tech industry cannot collapse soon enough, even the slow collapse we are seeing already isn't nearly enough. I want these Google execs panhandling for money while dodging hobo shit landmines and fent needles in San Francisco. Fucking bastards.
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It has to. It's not financially viable for companies to continue investing hundreds of millions of dollars into pay-per-click (PPC) advertising through search engines like Google and social media. Remember that some companies pay up to 5 whole dollars per one click, and the average PPC conversion rate for something like e-commerce is 1.5%. That means if the average price per click on one campaign is $5, and you have 10,000 people click on the SERP ad or display ad, (also same thing for paid social media posts), you've now spent $50,000 and only 150 of those people you've made sales or some other direct conversion to. To justify this this the customer lifetime value / AOV would have to be at the MINIMUM net of $330.

Return on advertising spend is also decreasing for EVERYBODY while PPC campaigns are INCREASING in costs. This is the lifeblood of big tech companies like Google and Facebook. It is such a massively huge fuck-off bubble that the end has to be just around the corner. This is probably why they are aggressively pushing back against ad blockers.

Another Google business model is just racketeering. Remember that some companies who do SERP ads have to maintain their spot at the top of the list, and that means having to invest money there so there competitor can't. Some campaigns exist solely to maintain their current market position. This costs tens of millions of dollars and it's basically a gayer, more rainbow colored form of pizzo except Google can completely get away with it and because of their influence in government be immune from literally anything.

The entire American economy is one giant retarded scheme and it's impossible to explain this to people. All it would take to end this late stage capitalism nightmare is just for people to spend 10 seconds installing a fucking adblocker. Yet the numbers on the people who use adblockers are consistently grim with only 30% to 40% of people actually using them. I will never understand this phenomena, it takes less then 2 minutes even for a less technologically inept user to look up "ad block", click the Chrome or Firefox or Safari extension page, hit "Install", or if they are a mobilefag download a browser like Brave. If you have older folks in your family, the next time you help them out with a computer problem or just have some time to be around them please install an ad blocker on their browser.

Do you know why everything now wants to be subscription-based and never you actually own something? It all goes back to paid search. Paid search and PPC is directly responsible for this shift. It's not the sole cause but it is the most direct contributing factor.
 
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Use Ublock origin, Maybe use NoScript for additional protection.
I have adguard for some additional ad-blocking.
I don't know how technical you are, but Chrome is made by Google, an Ad company, it's in their interest to serve you ads.
Use some other browser, with an ad-blocker.
 
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