Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

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This is likely the case, as they wanted to go full 3D. They tested things out and must not have liked the results, so they decided to make the game 2.5D like the DS titles but with more emphasis on the 3D parts.
But this is what confuses me the most, the engine they built for gen 4 already uses 3d for environments. Why rebuild everything from scratch if what they already had works? And a completely new engine just to throw away in a very short few years when starting work on x/y.

There is no way that the source for d/p is so fucked up that they had to rewrite the engine and the gen 4 engine should be capable of doing whatever they were doing in gen 5. Really does make no sense to me.
 
Wake me up when Imposter Motherfuckin Oak (his official middle name) shows up in the leaks
He's shown up in the Spaceworld leaks, this is old news.
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it
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That kid was way ahead of the times, we just didn't know

Also, here is an interesting tidbit: For whatever reason, the BW prototype has a semi functional copy of Yoshi's Egg that you can play in single player. If you ever wanted to play that game on your DS, there you go. Also, TCRF mentions you could run from Pokemon Battles, likely just a debug function but it would be interesting if the devs were experimenting with a feature like that.

But this is what confuses me the most, the engine they built for gen 4 already uses 3d for environments. Why rebuild everything from scratch if what they already had works? And a completely new engine just to throw away in a very short few years when starting work on x/y.

There is no way that the source for d/p is so fucked up that they had to rewrite the engine and the gen 4 engine should be capable of doing whatever they were doing in gen 5. Really does make no sense to me.
Not much that Gamefreak does makes any sense. I guess what DPP/HGSS engine was capable just wasn't enough, remember that they wanted to re-create NYC in the game.
 
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The guy who fucked a Mudkip.
That kid was way ahead of the times, we just didn't know
That kid laid the groundwork, now all this madness has come around again, liek an ouroboros of Mudkipz.
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Between all the crazy stuff with the lore and the beta designs I think my favorite reveal has been Skyla's whole existence happening because one of the devs was just horny and wanted to create a sexy latina pilot.

It's quite funny and quite human, you just don't get shit like that from massive game companies anymore.
 
Oh, the writers of this article definitely know what people are going to be looking for
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Between all the crazy stuff with the lore and the beta designs I think my favorite reveal has been Skyla's whole existence happening because one of the devs was just horny and wanted to create a sexy latina pilot.

It's quite funny and quite human, you just don't get shit like that from massive game companies anymore.
Which is funny because Skyla looks nothing like her inspirations. Hell, she doesn't even look hispanic, I just assumed it was her getting a tan(in BW2 she is revealed to fly to a desert town a lot)
 
Been a fan of Mewtwo since I was seven. After his debut, guess how long it took before Mewtwo got lewded and targeted by the earliest of Poképhiles?

*sips loudly*

*smacks lips*

Pussies.
oh nah I know about that too, it sucked cause I always thought Mewtwo was cool but it wasn't as painful to me as the Vaporeon stuff or the new Typhlosion shit.


That said Arceus doing a Zeus is kinda hilarious.
 
At this point I wish Game Freak didn't put Pokeporn in their internal documents not because it's degenerate (and it is) but because people won't shut the fuck up about it. So much awesome shit rivaling the Spaceworld leak and it's all overshadowed by TYPHLOSION RAPES GIRLS LOL
I agree.

Slaking has the funnier rape scene
 
Some HGSS beta stuff:
Early Silver
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Lyra
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Ethan
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Early trainer cards
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Early touch screen controls
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Your mother still wasn't redesigned
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Going thru the front door crashes your game btw
HGSS were build off Diamond version, how do we know this? Well, that game has Lugia in the intro screen. Diamond version? Well...
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BTW at that point in time, this was still a Diamond/Pearl romhack, so most of that game's content is still there. Good example would be Jubilife City, shown off in an earlier video. Earliest versions available still have Dawn/Lucas as protagonists.
PokeGear themes look rough at this point in development, it seems Lyra's default was developed later as she still uses Ethan's at this point in time.
Speaking of which, since she's here this early on, I guess this deboonks the theory that Krys was originally going to be in the game. That said, why are Krys' assets still in the final game, then?
 
/vp/anon is trying to clean the dog sprite

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While it's not exactly omfg edgy or badass or anything, I wish we had more three-stage mammalian non-humanoid mons that could function as "cool" in a pinch. I would love to see this thing become a cross-evo someday, and I heard on /vp/ they probably swiped the "star" design for Luxray's mane, which seems sensible enough. But man, this thing explains Manectric a LOT now.

As a big fan of the Cyndaquil line, I now know the pain of people who like Vaporeon.

And at least the Vaporeon stuff ain’t canon.
I'm a fan of Incineroar, friend, and as a guy whose first instinct seeing him was "cool tiger that happens to be bipedal the same way Feraligatr is" I get the pain. I'm thankful he's had something of a redemption arc amongst the fandom, but the annoying memery is always there lurking.
 
Not much that Gamefreak does makes any sense. I guess what DPP/HGSS engine was capable just wasn't enough, remember that they wanted to re-create NYC in the game.
Or they're fucking insane and/or someone wants to get paid.

It's so strange seeing this in a different perspective other than top down. What's interesting to me though is that the character sprites change depending on the rotation of the camera, is there any point in b/w where that happens?
 
Some HGSS beta stuff:
Early Silver
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Lyra
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Ethan
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Early trainer cards
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Early touch screen controls
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Your mother still wasn't redesigned
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Going thru the front door crashes your game btw
HGSS were build off Diamond version, how do we know this? Well, that game has Lugia in the intro screen. Diamond version? Well...
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BTW at that point in time, this was still a Diamond/Pearl romhack, so most of that game's content is still there. Good example would be Jubilife City, shown off in an earlier video. Earliest versions available still have Dawn/Lucas as protagonists.
PokeGear themes look rough at this point in development, it seems Lyra's default was developed later as she still uses Ethan's at this point in time.
Speaking of which, since she's here this early on, I guess this deboonks the theory that Krys was originally going to be in the game. That said, why are Krys' assets still in the final game, then?
Even they were doing their share of hacking rom lol.

Silver beta has the same color or jacket and pants even when the original silver had the same color scheme as the remake
 
Here are some higher res renders of RS concept art, including some for cut Pokemon
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I'm still going over the movepool changes and finer details, but I am not sure about the early Pokedex. It's surprising to see who got made and finalized first and who needed first or 3rd stage evolutions made. Some Pokemon were even on their way out as this build was made, with only their sprites and pokedex entries remaining and all the other info already replaced with one of the Pokemon from the final game. Unsurprisingly, all Gen 1-2 Pokemon started out with their movesets taken directly from Crystal and then edited as the time went on. There were also going to be far less returning Pokemon, looks like the focus was always on having the players try out the new ones.
Note that some of those images were actually used as a reference for the Anime. The blue upright water Pokemon(called "Puruun" in-game) is actually based off a cut Spaceworld Pokemon. I would know, when I played SuperGold97 I choose that line as my starter.
 
What's interesting to me though is that the character sprites change depending on the rotation of the camera, is there any point in b/w where that happens?
Yes, in places where Game Freak decided to get fancy and added a rotating camera. Castelia City's entrance, the Battle Subway and Celestial Tower have NPCs that do this.
 
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