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Which is Better

  • Chicken Little

    Votes: 384 26.0%
  • Hunchback 2

    Votes: 53 3.6%
  • A slow death

    Votes: 1,038 70.4%

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Like that’s ever gonna happen!
She's a POC there's noway they'll make her unrepentant evil cause int he enternal current year that's racism!
Surprised they haven't denounced Facilier's existence or tried subverting him as totally a good guy at heart and not the evil fucking scam artist that uses supernatural shit to get his way.
 
I was listening to the YMS segment on MATI and this idea just popped into my head.

The Lion King is supposed to be an adaptation of Shakespeare's Hamlet, but I don't recall the uncle in Hamlet ever inviting a foreign army into the kingdom to cement his power. But not only does Scar invite a foreign army into the lion kingdom, they devastate the natural resources and create a shortage crisis on food and water. The hyenas are maladapted to the local culture but are untouchable to the native lion population, nobody is able or allowed to simply step in and kill this horde of invaders because king Scar says no.

The movie invokes Nazi imagery, but it's directed at Scar, which can only possibly communicate that he's supposed to be a white Aryan, which means the rest of the lions are Aryan. Scar is a race traitor conspiring to take power by rallying an inferior & incompetent foreign army to overthrow his own people. Scar himself is an inferior specimen of a lion, he's weak, shriveled, thin and effeminate. He can only take power through betrayal, subterfuge and pacts made with ravenous retards who overconsume resources and fail to accomplish even the most basic tasks, and are largely only kept around as a show of force.

Then Simba returns, overthrows Scar and chases the intruding hyenas out of his land back into the shithole desert they came from.

Lion King = Great Replacement theory?
 
I was listening to the YMS segment on MATI and this idea just popped into my head.

The Lion King is supposed to be an adaptation of Shakespeare's Hamlet, but I don't recall the uncle in Hamlet ever inviting a foreign army into the kingdom to cement his power. But not only does Scar invite a foreign army into the lion kingdom, they devastate the natural resources and create a shortage crisis on food and water. The hyenas are maladapted to the local culture but are untouchable to the native lion population, nobody is able or allowed to simply step in and kill this horde of invaders because king Scar says no.

The movie invokes Nazi imagery, but it's directed at Scar, which can only possibly communicate that he's supposed to be a white Aryan, which means the rest of the lions are Aryan. Scar is a race traitor conspiring to take power by rallying an inferior & incompetent foreign army to overthrow his own people. Scar himself is an inferior specimen of a lion, he's weak, shriveled, thin and effeminate. He can only take power through betrayal, subterfuge and pacts made with ravenous retards who overconsume resources and fail to accomplish even the most basic tasks, and are largely only kept around as a show of force.

Then Simba returns, overthrows Scar and chases the intruding hyenas out of his land back into the shithole desert they came from.

Lion King = Great Replacement theory?
Someone beat you to it by a year:
 
Ugh. I'm so fucking sick of modern shit trying to make us sympathize with villains.
God forbid you have someone be evil just for the sake of being evil. THAT seems to be only okay when they're making fun of the political right and Donald Trump.
It's legitimately boring story telling, and Disney is especially guilty of this. Well, modern Disney is anyway.
 
Someone beat you to it by a year:
Ugh. I'm so fucking sick of modern shit trying to make us sympathize with villains.
God forbid you have someone be evil just for the sake of being evil. THAT seems to be only okay when they're making fun of the political right and Donald Trump.
It's legitimately boring story telling, and Disney is especially guilty of this. Well, modern Disney is anyway.
I would love to see a full-throated, fully intentional pro-Fascism movie for all the whining people do about milquetoast movies being secretly turbo-Fascist. Would their heads pop from anger or would they salivate over it like starving dogs?
 
Ugh. I'm so fucking sick of modern shit trying to make us sympathize with villains.
God forbid you have someone be evil just for the sake of being evil. THAT seems to be only okay when they're making fun of the political right and Donald Trump.
It's legitimately boring story telling, and Disney is especially guilty of this. Well, modern Disney is anyway.
Like you can have a well intentioned sympathetic villain, the issue with a lot of modern animated films is that they try to use the sympathy as a "get out of jail free" card for doing the most heinous shit imaginable.
 
Like you can have a well intentioned sympathetic villain, the issue with a lot of modern animated films is that they try to use the sympathy as a "get out of jail free" card for doing the most heinous shit imaginable.
I think the fault lies more with the media-illiterate goons going to watch the films than the films themselves (usually).
 
Lion King = Great Replacement theory?
I'm pretty sure a guy named Timothy back in 1995 on usenet noticed the same thing. It's a rather stale take.

I know I first heard it in the 2000s, almost every right leaning person pointed out the faggy nature of Scar and the whole "immigrants taking over" bit.

The problem is it also came out in 1994 and just like then no one on the news will talk about great replacement, but a lot of blogs called it out immediately. If you're old enough to remember the angry birds films online discourse and how instantly everyone knew the subtext it was the same thing then.
Will people even still care about this remake movie, given how it felt like it took ages for it to release?
It's a kids film remake of something popular 23 years ago they're obviously going to love it. If you were a kid then you have kids now. Disney can shit on a plate and as long as they don't piss off parents with woke nonsense then it will make money
 
Ugh. I'm so fucking sick of modern shit trying to make us sympathize with villains.
God forbid you have someone be evil just for the sake of being evil. THAT seems to be only okay when they're making fun of the political right and Donald Trump.
It's legitimately boring story telling, and Disney is especially guilty of this. Well, modern Disney is anyway.
My main issue with the attempts at sympathetic villains is that Disney just can't give them charisma or make them funny.
I don't care if they aren't "nuanced", characters like Hades or Yzma were wonderful villains.
 
My main issue with the attempts at sympathetic villains is that Disney just can't give them charisma or make them funny.
I don't care if they aren't "nuanced", characters like Hades or Yzma were wonderful villains.
"I am literally just evil and got charisma and I know it" is 90% of all cult leaders. However, it's much easier to write some figure that got abused as a kid who didn't grow up to be charismatic but "Uhh secret super powerful.... n shit" to be a misunderstood villain instead.
 
I was listening to the YMS segment on MATI and this idea just popped into my head.

The Lion King is supposed to be an adaptation of Shakespeare's Hamlet, but I don't recall the uncle in Hamlet ever inviting a foreign army into the kingdom to cement his power. But not only does Scar invite a foreign army into the lion kingdom, they devastate the natural resources and create a shortage crisis on food and water. The hyenas are maladapted to the local culture but are untouchable to the native lion population, nobody is able or allowed to simply step in and kill this horde of invaders because king Scar says no.

The movie invokes Nazi imagery, but it's directed at Scar, which can only possibly communicate that he's supposed to be a white Aryan, which means the rest of the lions are Aryan. Scar is a race traitor conspiring to take power by rallying an inferior & incompetent foreign army to overthrow his own people. Scar himself is an inferior specimen of a lion, he's weak, shriveled, thin and effeminate. He can only take power through betrayal, subterfuge and pacts made with ravenous retards who overconsume resources and fail to accomplish even the most basic tasks, and are largely only kept around as a show of force.

Then Simba returns, overthrows Scar and chases the intruding hyenas out of his land back into the shithole desert they came from.

Lion King = Great Replacement theory?
But hyenas are native to the land so they aren't really foreign army. And are close enough for two kids to stumble to their area. You can argue it's more like Scar got Niggers and crackheads into power with predictable result. It's more pro aristocracy/monarchy since their the betters who deserve to be in power.
 
But hyenas are native to the land so they aren't really foreign army.
Not in the context of the movie, when Simba looks over to the desert and asks his dad "what about that place" Mufasa replies "that's not ours, don't go there." The Hyenas might be Africans, but they're not Pride Landers.
It's more pro aristocracy/monarchy since their the betters who deserve to be in power.
That is true, but I would argue there can be multiple layers of subtext in a story. I'm probably wrong anyway and it's all likely just a huge coincidence, and coincidences don't make for authorial intent.
 
But hyenas are native to the land so they aren't really foreign army. And are close enough for two kids to stumble to their area. You can argue it's more like Scar got Niggers and crackheads into power with predictable result. It's more pro aristocracy/monarchy since their the betters who deserve to be in power.
Not really. Scar is in power, and he’s an aristocrat. I’d argue it’s a metaphor for the modern day, where whites, asians, and normal blacks and hispanics being kept down by the ruling class purposely allowing niggers and illegals to run rampant.

This is, of course, assuming The Lion King was made to be an autistic metaphor and not just a fun, well-made movie about lions.
 
My main issue with the attempts at sympathetic villains is that Disney just can't give them charisma or make them funny.
I don't care if they aren't "nuanced", characters like Hades or Yzma were wonderful villains.
Yes the modern movies like Wish, the villain King Magnifico was actually the Hero, who was a wise and just Philosopher King.
 
Yes the modern movies like Wish, the villain King Magnifico was actually the Hero, who was a wise and just Philosopher King.
Already forgot about that despite it really sticking out to me at the time.
They really advertised him as a "return to form" villain only for him to still fall into evil more or less involuntarily. And then people still think he had a good point with not wanting to carelessly grant every wish ever.
 
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