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It's easy to say Canada did something right for once, but it goes to show something—going nuts on the "delete car lanes for bike lanes" policies are UNIVERSALLY UNPOPULAR with people even in "liberal" areas. They can cry about "muh conservatives" and "muh boomers" but the reality is only a tiny group of sociopaths like them.
Surely the cyclists reputation made people reconsider at least for a second... right? I mean think about all the nice interactions you've had with friendly cyclists and I'm sure it will convince you why giving them what they want is good. :story:
 
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I think someone brought up this question here before, but it was something like "why does it seem like the cycling community is made up of almost exclusively assholes". I kind of thought about it a little more deeply and I've come to this conclusion.

You know those things people do that aren't explicitly illegal, but are generally considered inconsiderate. Like standing in the middle of an escalator instead of off to the side or holding an elevator for someone who isn't even there. Same applies to cyclists in a way. Ignoring the legality of cycling in order to be a cyclist you sort of have to be ok with the idea bothering people (even if not intentionally). Nice people who are considerate would have been filtered out of this years ago by either choosing to bike on a trail or in a low traffic road. Normal people feel a sense of shame when they inconvenience others. Like for example why I don't practice my guitar past curfew, because it bothers people.

In the mind of a cyclist not only do they not feel bad about antagonizing other people, but they also have to imagine other people in the wrong for being bothered by them. In conclusion it takes a special type of individual to feel like biking in the middle of the road going 10 mph is ok.
 
why does it seem like the cycling community is made up of almost exclusively assholes
because you're confusing people who ride bikes with the sort of person that makes riding a bike their whole identity (see also: audiophiles with retardedly overwrought setups). Cycling is prone to this sort of person because it is in between cars and walking in terms of speed and less convenient than either of them, so the sort of person that insists on biking instead of walking or driving is the sort of 'i WILL do it my way and everyone WILL deal with it' type.
Ontario just saved Toronto from itself.
Even DUG FERD realized that taking away a lane of year-round traffic to put in a bike lane that will be used by six people a week from May-September is dumb.
 
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Even /r/fuckcars is telling him he's dumb:
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Someone actually calls that schizo a NIMBY, only to be told he can't possibly be one because NIMBYs are only opposed to "socially dense" development:
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Houses should be luxury goods:
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/r/fuckcars user pretends that they don't want to ban cars:
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but then is immediately disproven by the other comments:
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"You can keep your car in your rural area but you can't drive into the city"

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"You can keep your car in your rural area but you can't drive into the city"
I'm completely fine with building a wall and moat around the urban hell-holes and leaving them to themselves. Less and less I need to go into there, and it's usually medical related now, and even those are moving outside the city.
 
"BECAUSE CARS KILLED MY GRANDMA, OKAY!?"
I doubt they know anyone who was actually hurt or killed by motorists. I mean, my future sister-in-law's dad was recently severely injured in a bicycle accident with a car (the driver took a blind turn too fast in a city full of hills). Thing about these accidents is just because you're 100% at fault doesn't mean you were acting maliciously. I haven't asked his opinion on it, maybe he does think differently...

"You can keep your car in your rural area but you can't drive into the city"

They've never been what defines the "city" or the "city center". What it is it? The core of downtown? One mile out? Two? Five? Ten? Nor have they have defined how would it work. Gates? Cameras? Do they allow cabs, ambulances, and delivery trucks? If there are apartments that have parking garages, do they just have to move out? When you start fucking around with access, things start moving out and closing. How are they going to deal with the blowback of that?

The closest thing to "total no car downtown" was Victor Gruen's 1957 plan for Fort Worth which still would've involved ring roads, parking garages, and a bunch of loading docks. Unsurprisingly, it was scrapped soon after, and urbanists don't like the idea of ring roads and parking garages (despite their beloved universities doing the same thing).
 
I doubt they know anyone who was actually hurt or killed by motorists.
That reminds me of a local wealthy person putting out a news article about being hit by a car on his bicycle. Every one involved said no he's just an old man that crashed his bike and got a concussion. I don't remember if he was wearing a helmet or not. It's never your fault when you are on a bike, even when it's your fault.
Unsurprisingly, it was scrapped soon after, and urbanists don't like the idea of ring roads and parking garages (despite their beloved universities doing the same thing).
They just really hate logistics in general. The thought that things are the way they are because that is the best way you can do that with the relevant criteria never even enters there mind. Mostly because they have never been curious enough nor forced to think about it.

Hurricane Helena knocked down thousands of trees per square mile where I live, and the people that opened the roads were just neighbors with chainsaws. Most of them didn't even offer a half hearted thanks.
 
Seattle cycling activist is mad that a brand new bike trail that replaced a highway has a slight curve in it:
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Guy was so triggered he wrote an entire article (archive) about it.

I don't understand what the problem is? I thought traffic calming was a good thing? Does he not care about the safety of vulnerable trail users?

This trail runs through a heavily foot-trafficked area where it would be dangerous to have vehicles traveling at high speed in close proximity to pedestrians.

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Guy was so triggered he wrote an entire article (archive) about it.

He's not actually sperging out over the curve in the bike path but rather the fact that the bike path is not as wide as the earlier rendering show it. It doesn't make it any less pathetic or more reasonable (for talking up how "space efficient" bicycles are, demanding six feet lanes in each direction is silly), but I at least understand what he's trying to say.
 
By telling them all to read Strong Towns.

I meant like actual tenant replacement. If a restaurant closes because lack of parking/access they'll probably say "oh well it must not have been that good" but many of these mixed-use buildings still struggle to attract tenants, especially high-rent ones. To survive on foot traffic in a high-rent area you basically need to functionally operate like a shopping district where people will still visit, not solely relying on local traffic. Even New York City survives a lot on the office worker/tourist crowd and not their own local area. There are too many examples I've seen where trendy mixed-use spaces are mostly empty and/or the restaurant that signed up on the lower level (often some sort of trendy cuisine du jour—Korean barbecue, hot chicken, the latest yuppie take on tacos and burgers) folds within a few years.

It's never a good idea to redevelop something without making you sure you have a bunch of tenants lined up to take the place. This is one reason why all those downtown pedestrian malls failed, they put up a lot of construction and made them harder to access (at least temporarily) and then never was able to replace them.

Sometimes they went the extra step and replaced all the buildings and streets with a big glassy galleria and nice shops...but then still ran into problems because the neighborhood still sucked and you had those people causing trouble there, you had basically the same stores people had in the suburbs, and there was paid parking to boot.

That's not to mention the residential aspect. Almost all of these big developments near downtown are marketed toward affluent yuppies because with development you basically have to go upscale to make money, especially in expensive areas.

If you try to convert your neighborhood to "car free" and then extort existing residents to get rid of their cars/pay an outrageous fine then assuming you don't have a lawsuit on your hands, they're going to move out, and there's almost always going to be less desirable people ready to move in...and that creates a negative feedback loop.

Most importantly, they always forget the fundamental question. "Why do you want to go there?" Among Disney parks fans, Paul Pressler got a bad reputation because he put too much focus on dining and shopping (and not very good shopping and dining at that). Pressler of course was wrong, people don't go to theme parks to shop and eat (that's what the malls and restaurants around theme parks are for), they go there to have fun. They definitely don't to go to theme parks to be in a "car-free environment".
 
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People that are ok living in a apartment for eternity with no car are single and childless. They only contribute to the economy by buying toys and Nintendo products, which is money for Japan and China, not their countries. When I buy a tool at least there's usually a American option. These people don't care. We should live in the globalist hive cities for maximum GDP output at the cost of quality of life.
 
That's not to mention the residential aspect. Almost all of these big developments near downtown are marketed toward affluent yuppies because with development you basically have to go upscale to make money, especially in expensive areas.
They are handicapping themselves with a minimum number of units that need to be subsidized.

Such person then not to be able to afford a $25 basic entree, a $9 beer, or $15 cocktails. Even the market changes to accommodate higher income tastes such as Gelsons, Sprouts, or Whole Foods. As such, low income persons in the subsidized units either need to pay higher rates at smaller ethnic markets with higher rent or they need to travel further for daily needs.
 
They are handicapping themselves with a minimum number of units that need to be subsidized.

Such person then not to be able to afford a $25 basic entree, a $9 beer, or $15 cocktails. Even the market changes to accommodate higher income tastes such as Gelsons, Sprouts, or Whole Foods. As such, low income persons in the subsidized units either need to pay higher rates at smaller ethnic markets with higher rent or they need to travel further for daily needs.

I can go on about subsidized housing makes prices higher for everyone but it also brings down the quality of life. Imagine you just paid your rent on your tiny $2000+/month apartment, it's 10:17 pm and you've got another long day of work ahead of you and you hear some police officer screaming "GET BACK", shots fired, and a guttural growl as the commotion stops.
 
Apparently Traffic Engineers should be criminally responsible for Road Deaths
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But wait, what are those weird lines near the intersection, hmmm the article linked doesn't show where the crash happened, odd that.
Let's look it up..
BEHOLD THIS VERY DANGEROUS INTERSECTION!
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Odd that a child would cross at the street in the background and not that crossing, I wonder what the more retarded tabloids are posting:
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Oh, they were hit at a protected crossing, and based on the car(a new Corolla) in the first article, the area demographics, that they blew through a red light at 80km/h(50mph) and the fact the driver is a 24 y.o. they are probably a fucking pajeet.
So we should jail Traffic Engineers for designing a road with active protection, wide sightlines, and plenty of signage because what's most likely a pajeet or some other fuck playing on their phone can't adhere to a red light on the main feeder rd to the nearest freeway.

Urbanists are really the new religious right nutbars, which is odd considering that dailyrake article posted back thread shows even the 'hard right' has a more sane view then most urbanists.
 
Oh, they were hit at a protected crossing, and based on the car(a new Corolla) in the first article, the area demographics, that they blew through a red light at 80km/h(50mph) and the fact the driver is a 24 y.o. they are probably a fucking pajeet.
So we should jail Traffic Engineers for designing a road with active protection, wide sightlines, and plenty of signage because what's most likely a pajeet or some other fuck playing on their phone can't adhere to a red light on the main feeder rd to the nearest freeway.
Judges aren't criminally responsible for the niggers they release murdering people, so I don't see why traffic engineers should be criminally responsible here.
 
Judges aren't criminally responsible for the niggers they release murdering people, so I don't see why traffic engineers should be criminally responsible here.
Engineers can already be held criminally liable for gross negligence - but everything there looks signaled and signed correctly.

This is also why I teach my kids that you never trust the cars, they're all driven by fucking retards and are out to kill you.
 
This is also why I teach my kids that you never trust the cars, they're all driven by fucking retards and are out to kill you.
And why my driving instructor taught me treat all kids I see as fucking retared. They will jump in front you like they have death wish just because they can or because they saw a cool looking leaf.
 
And why my driving instructor taught me treat all kids I see as fucking retared. They will jump in front you like they have death wish just because they can or because they saw a cool looking leaf.
One thing I noticed in foreign countries - the fucking pedestrians believe in brakes more than the Pope believes in God. It’s fucking insane - everyone just walks into traffic assuming that the driver will (a) see them (b) try to stop and © actually have working brakes. Insanity.
 
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