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[WelperHelper99]

Uh, they hand them over to be unjustly imprisoned or killed by their own state?

Yeah, those... those damn evil Russians.

For sanction relief? Fuck yeah sure lol. They'll do it.

 

[Ibanez RG 350EX]

For sanction relief? Fuck yeah sure lol. They'll do it.

You're so stupid that you don't even realize you're stupid. It's incredible.

 

[GettrGriftr]

Uh, they hand them over to be unjustly imprisoned or killed by their own state?

Who's the bad guy here exactly?

 

[WelperHelper99]

You're so stupid that you don't even realize you're stupid. It's incredible.

I'm not a traitor so objectively I'm better than you and Snowden

 

[FILTH Tourist]

It would have been a trial

You left out the key word "FAIR".

Now Russia has a pawn they can sell at any time in a prisoner exexchange.

The Russians haven't sold him out yet after a decade of living there. They know that keeping him there is more useful as an advertisement for Russia being a whistle blower safe haven. Besides, a black female pot head basketball player is way more valuable to Americans than some white IT guy.

Exactly. Nothing changed because of Snowden. Who got fired because of the leaks? The NSA still exists and screens your calls. They just got better at it. Why do you think there hasn't been another Snowden? They locked the fuck down.

Wow, the government investigated itself and found nothing wrong. Truely Snowden could trust the government to hear him out and oversee his trial.
Seriously, what do you expect Snowden to do? Not whistle blow because he somehow made it worse? This is a retarded take because it was always going to get worse Snowden or not. Stand Trial? You see what the bullshit the government throws at people that piss them off. He will lose and then he goes to jail for most of his life and the media sweeps. Even if he wins that doesn't automatically mean that the government will hold itself accountable. Also the feds love finding new charges to go for a round 2.

Snowden is important becasue he pulled back the curtain and told people what was happening. It is up to everyone else to do something with the facts he presented.

 

[The Ugly One]

They will sell his ass out when he is no longer useful. It's what Russians do to Americans.

When is the last time Russia sent a defector back to the USA?

 

[WelperHelper99]

Wow, the government investigated itself and found nothing wrong. Truely Snowden could trust the government to hear him out and oversee his trial.
Seriously, what do you expect Snowden to do? Not whistle blow because he somehow made it worst? This is a retarded take because it was always going to get worse Snowden or not. Stand Trial? You see what the bullshit the government throws at people that piss them off. He will lose and then he goes to jail for most of his life and the media sweeps. Even if he wins that doesn't automatically mean that the government will hold itself accountable. Also the feds love finding new charges to go for a round 2.

Snowden is important becasue he pulled back the curtain and told people what was happening. It is up to everyone else to do something with the facts he presented.

I expected him not to be a traitor. That's it. That. Is. All. How do you know the trial wouldn't be fair? It's all speculation on your part. And no they couldn't charge him again, double jeopardy laws. Yeah I'm glad he leaked shit. But going to Russia instead of facing what he had done, when he would have had dream team level lawyers at his disposal due to the prestige of the case... nah. Can't cosign that.

 

[FILTH Tourist]

Are you high? The US supported the Kuomintang to the hilt in the Chinese Civil War and the US is one of Taiwan's biggest military supporters. We have significant pull with Taiwan.

My point exactly. Even if the US doesn't have formal relations with a country, the aid and support the US gives out makes those countries willing to play ball.
Also he wasn't handed over by the KMT, the DPP made the deal with the US.

 

[HackerX]

I'm not a traitor so objectively I'm better than you and Snowden

Nah. You're below either of them until you thank me for my service.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

When is the last time Russia sent a defector back to the USA?

Lee Harvey Oswold. Although that was technically the USSR.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

Lee Harvey Oswold. Although that was technically the USSR.

This is correct. The Soviets didn't even want the guy, though. They thought he was retarded or something.

 

[Fred Herbert]

I’m enjoying this Neocon-esque patriotic purity spiral.

Snowden 2028.

 

[King Metalia]

Lee Harvey Oswold. Although that was technically the USSR.

I did not think this thread would descend into a conversation about who really killed JFK but here we are.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

I did not think this thread would descend into a conversation about who really killed JFK but here we are.

Detracted from the US to the USSR in the height of the cold war, was welcomed back to the US with open arms after leaving USSR freely, enlisted back into the US Army no questions asked, just so happened to shoot a president in the schnebber.

Whodathunk it?

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

Quick, somebody who's good at math - what's 95% of 41%?

I know someone took this seriously, but I'm pretty sure it's this

For the Autists, it's Zero Percent. Because they kill themselves.

 

[FILTH Tourist]

I’m enjoying this Neocon-esque patriotic purity spiral.

No matter how retarded this thread gets, I just want everyone to know that I love you all and hope we can stay friends.

I did not think this thread would descend into a conversation about who really killed JFK but here we are.

Personally, I am shocked this hasn't happened sooner, given the events back in July.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

My point exactly. Even if the US doesn't have formal relations with a country, the aid and support the US gives out makes those countries willing to play ball.
Also he wasn't handed over by the KMT, the DPP made the deal with the US.

I see your point. I thought you were saying that the US had no pull with Taiwan, which obviously confused me. I also didn't know that the DPP did that as opposed to the KMT, so thank you for the information.

I’m enjoying this Neocon-esque patriotic purity spiral.

I hate communists. Is that so wrong?

Detracted from the US to the USSR in the height of the cold war, was welcomed back to the US with open arms after leaving USSR freely, enlisted back into the US Army no questions asked, just so happened to shoot a president in the schnebber.

Whodathunk it?

Oswald did not re-enlist back into the Marines (or the military at all) after returning from the Soviet Union.

 

[Train Operator]

I did not think this thread would descend into a conversation about who really killed JFK but here we are.

Detracted from the US to the USSR in the height of the cold war, was welcomed back to the US with open arms after leaving USSR freely, enlisted back into the US Army no questions asked, just so happened to shoot a president in the schnebber.

Whodathunk it?

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

So wait...Captain Planet shot JFK?

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

So wait...Captain Planet shot JFK?

It all makes sense now...