Liz Fong-Jones / Elliot William Fong / @lizthegrey - 'Consent accident' enjoyer, ex-Google employee, nepotistic sex pest, Robert Z'Dar look-alike who wants authority over the Internet

This is quite possibly both liz's smartest, yet stupidest scheme to discredit kiwifarms so far.
The idea behind this name is quite literally the same as the "Save the Puppies and Kittens Act" joke.
Package a bunch of bullshit behind a name that lies about it's intent & inflicts authority along with some sort of a vague agreeable message for random people who don't know any details.

"Why don't you want to save the poor starving puppies? Are you some kind of monster???"
(bill is about mandating all animal shelters to euthanize any dog that comes in)

The name of "#dropkiwifarms" has slowed significantly (in other words it failed) & has become tainted with drama, & scandals so they're going create a new proxy to attack.
I suspect that rather than trying to target public opinion & create a movement this will be a shell to harass & threaten companies into compliance on a mass scale.

All you need to do to put down this new pet project in it's tracks is show Liz-Fong-Jones history of harassment, "consent accidents" they're trying to hide & illegal/immoral actions to try and silence people.
Track which companies they send emails to & create campaigns to pressure, & tell them who Liz is, and their real intentions. Companies are significantly less likely to comply when they aren't afraid of whoever's threatening them.

Archives don't lie.
i also forgot to add

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(you will always be a thwomp)
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“Terrorise minorities”? Does this dumb whomp cosplayer not realise that a large contingent of Kiwi Farms are from some of their precious ‘minorities’ and are heartily sick of being used as troon armor?

There’s plenty of women, effnick minorities, disabled people, big fucking gayers and even desisted trannies on here. People are sick of being told what to say and do (and who to sleep with).

The only ‘minorities’ we annoy (not ‘terrorise’) are the abusive fucks who think they can bully women, black people, kids and gays into accepting them ‘or else’. Laughing at the words idiots say on the internet is not ‘terrorising’ someone. Either find your non-existent balls and carry on being the apparently brave and stronk tranny you are, or stop posting degenerate shit in public while expecting people not to object to it.

We are the ‘minorities’, Elliot. And we’re sick of your shit.
I'm a Jew and a (may Allah forgive me for uttering this word) Marylander.

I don't think Erriot would ever come to Baltimore because I suspect he's deathly afraid of black people. Even British ones.
 
Recreating DropKiwiFarms is as ineffective as trying to start GamerGate 2: Electric Boogaloo.
Dong just needs to get Trump to tweet about it
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Laughing at the words idiots say on the internet is not ‘terrorising’ someone.
That's the bottom line and why freaks like Elliot get laughed out of the room when they try to report us for "harassment" to the cops.

If someone deliberately seeks out a website where people document the weird, perverted shit they post themselves and laugh at how fucking creepy and gross or just plain ridiculous they are, that's not harrasment.
Choosing to look up people laughing at you doesn't make you a victim.
Nobody (or very few) are seeking these faggots out to laugh at them, (behavior that is even ridiculed and condemned when it happens) they are making the choice to come here and seek out opinions and comments that they already know are not going to be favorable to them.

They cry "harassment" and expect to be taken at face value, and they hate that when asked to specify exactly what this "harassment" is, they have to admit they seek it out themselves.
They aren't victims. Nobodys forcing them to read their threads. They just don't like their gross fetishes and degenerate behavior being ridiculed.
 
Anyway, how is KF harrassment when Brick Chops willingly comes here to view people's opinions/mocking about his  public Internet presence? Sounds more like digital self harm, Elliot. Maybe just stop raping people and posting on social media about it.

Eta: Ninja'd. Feelsbadman.
P.s Has he gone blind yet?
 
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I haven't been on this brick faced chink's page in a minute because he puts me off my lunch, but how dare he say Kiwifarms makes the Internet unsafe for autists. WE ARE THE AUTISTS. THE AUTISM IS COMING FROM INSIDE THE HOUSE. He's stochastically terrorizing me, a neurodivergent person, by trying to dismantle our community.
 
Today at church I met a nice Chinese girl who's studying at a local university. She does not want to go back to China; her American friends are working to see if her student visa can become permanent citizenship. She deserves to be in America infinitely more than Elliot Fong the Rapist Blockhead.
 
Liz, you tweeted "she genuinely believes that I have sexually assaulted her," yet as far as I know, no one on Kiwi Farms has seen her side of the story. We don't know who she is, we don't know exactly what she accused you of. If you are not a rapist, and you weren't using the "consent accident" thread as a way to attempt to discredit a victim and make her look crazy, we're going to need to hear what she had to say for ourselves for there to even be a sliver of a chance that anyone here gives you any benefit of the doubt whatsoever.

Not to deanonymize or identify or harass her (although some verification that it's not just you making it up would be necessary), simply to weigh whatever she had to say against your version of the story. Perhaps it was all about a dog hair after all, but everything about the consent accident thread screams "gaslight the victim into silence" to me, and probably to a lot of/most/all women who've read it.

These are the consequences of starting an e-jihad against a gossip website while also having done something that, in your words, left someone feeling "suicidal and traumatized."
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This is a good point. It was simply ridiculous how he blamed his "Consent Accident" on some dog hair on his clothing. 🙄 Such an obvious lie or exaggeration.

As you said, Liz outright admitted that his victim was feeling suicidal and traumatized as a result of his little "Consent Accident". That's pretty extreme! And indeed, Liz felt that whatever happened was so bad that he needed to post a bunch of damage control tweets. He even admitted that he may deserve the consequences!

We've never gotten to hear his victim's side of the story. If it was ever posted publicly, then it must have been quickly deleted. Personally, I suspect that she said something about the sexual assault in a semi-public/semi-private place (probably a Slack group chat), and Liz decided he had to get ahead of the story & smear her openly on Twitter as some kind of neurotic, unreliable narrator - hence the dog hair story. This, combined with Liz likely doing some girl talk threats in private, pressured the victim into silence.

Here are some archives of Liz Fong-Jones' Consent Accident tweets:
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risk-aware_consensual_kink
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Not a massive contribution, but RACK is also sometimes referred to as "Risk Aware Kink Exploration," or RAKE. It's for things like "knifeplay" or "breathplay" where you could very well cause serious damage, but you're such a brain broken piece of shit that you'll partake anyways.

It's especially grotesque when only one party involved is "at risk" during the "kink exploration."

So... Liz was admittedly engaged in some "risk-aware consensual kink" and had a little "consent accident" with his victim/partner. And he somehow expects anyone to believe that it was about dog hair, of all things! 🙄 Rather than something more sinister like the rapey "breathplay" that Liz has previously defended. 🧐
Fong Dong: *Sees an article about girls being asphyxiated on Pornhub* "BUT WHAT ABOUT MUH SEX WORK"
https://archive.is/kd6PD
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Liz Fong-Jones said:
miss me with your sex-negativity and whorephobia. Yes, both YouTube and Pornhub and Vimeo and any site where videos are shared will have people who post non-consensual videos against ToS. But this is part of a systematic effort to stigmatize sex work, not to stop "trafficking".
Liz Fong-Jones said:
"oh my god, there are videos of women being asphyxiated with plastic bags" -- have you considered for a moment that maybe some of those women _enjoy_ it and are getting paid to, and it's a fun day at work for them?


This reminds me. What about a header that shows up on every page of the thread like the Keffals thread? Just a brief rundown with some of Elliot's greatest consent accidents hits.
See above. Liz Fong-Jones, Field CTO at Honeycomb, has also been accused of having a rather cavalier attitude about rape (at least when it's committed by a trans person) a few other times in the past.

Off the top of my head:
  • An anonymous person claiming to be an ex-Googler and a former member of Liz Fong-Jones' Eve Online gaming group posted on HackerNews (in 2019), outright calling Liz "an offender in sexual harassment" who fantasizes about rape.
  • They also recounted a story about how one of their friends had attempted to sexually assault them (and share CSAM). Since this "friend" was trans, the anonymous poster tried to discuss it with Liz, another trans person who they trusted at the time. Liz allegedly heard this story... and actually berated the victim as being a "monster" for not responding positively to the sexual assault.
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/liz-fong-jones-elliot-william-fong-lizthegrey.128419/post-18376363
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This boycott and these comments are being orchestrated by Liz Fong-Jones. Liz Fong-Jones is a transexual activist, and an offender in sexual harassment themselves. I'm posting this on a throwaway for obvious reasons.
I worked at Google from 2010-2014. Over the summer of 2012 or 2013, I joined an Eve Online "Corporation" (guild) with Liz, and another one of my coworkers. It was a crazy place. Liz had a fanatical hatred of "Rape Jokes". Rape was not a joke to Liz. Rape was a fantasy that Liz was all too happy to describe in great detail. The corporation was "Kink Friendly". I'm embarrassed to say that that was part of the appeal to me - I'm happy to tie my girlfriends up as part of roleplay. Liz's fantasies were a great deal more detailed and a great deal less fantasy oriented than I would like. I left that corporation after a while, though not as quickly as I should have. I was young, I was confused, and based on the success of her "Real Names Considered Harmful" letter, I believed that Liz was a credible, accredited leader.

The same coworker who introduced me to Liz would, several times, invite me to join them for lunch at "Club Z". I declined - Partially because something seemed off, mostly because I was satisfied with the lunches at Google. I would only later find out that "Club Z" is not a lunch place - It's a (rather infamous) Gay Bathhouse here in Seattle.

While I was in that corp, though, I was sexually assaulted by a former friend. About a year I knew and had considered a friend had some out as bi, and had "Confessed their love" to me... by forcefully kissing me at a party. I was embarrassed, I was not interested, and I made it pretty politely clear, to which they reacted badly. Now they had come out as "trans", and received an outpouring of support from mutual friends. Said friends convinced me to give them another chance. At their urging, I agreed to hang out with this friend, at a "Movie Night". A movie night which no-one else showed to. Said former friend pressured me to try weed, which I had never done before. Okay. Red flag. I was dumb, and I regret it. Said friend offered to show me his "Uncle's" stash of Child Pornography. I already suspected they were a pedo, but, yeah. Should have run right then, was drunk. Said "friend" then tried to force himself on me. I am not bigger, but I am strong, and I forced them off. I was also drunk, and spent several uncomfortable hours waiting to sober up, repeatedly fending off unwanted advances.

Anyway: Being dumb, having listened to too much of the bullshit excuses, I went to the only Trans* person I knew to talk about it. Liz. They told me how much I was in the wrong, how important it was for Trans* people to explore their sexuality, and called me a monster for not having responded positively. "What if a biological woman had hit on you?" - The tired old canard was trotted out.

I do not have any direct evidence of wrongdoing by Liz Fong-Jones. I only know that they hang out with, and are supported by, people who were long overdue for censure. People who were repeatedly able to convince others that they were the victims despite their clear aggression.
Interestingly, a HackerNews admin censored this post several years later - sometime in 2023. The post still exists, but Liz Fong-Jones' name was redacted from it. This was likely a result of Liz complaining to or threatening HackerNews.
(See this link for archives and a better outline.)
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  • A woman named Betsy Dupuis claims that Liz Fong-Jones told her that "trans people should be able to rape TERFs".
    • For context, Betsy Dupuis has a long history with the tech & kink clique surrounding Liz Fong-Jones, Charity Majors, Leigh Honeywell, etc... She has publicly asserted many times that Tall Poppy (the reputation management company run by Leigh and partially funded by Liz) has been trying to shut her up for years. Apparently, this clique has covered up a bunch of sexual assaults and defended rapists that they're friends with, and they don't like that Betsy Dupuis has called them out for it.
    • Look through these search results for more info: [1] [2]
https://ghostarchive.org/archive/A88Kb
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More from Betsy Dupuis:
https://x.com/search?q=from:BetsyDupuis liz&src=typed_query&f=live
https://x.com/search?q=from:BetsyDupuis tallpoppy or "tall poppy"&src=typed_query&f=live


If anyone can think of other instances showing that Liz Fong-Jones has a sketchy relationship with rape, please feel free to share them! :)
 
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