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[Ibanez RG 350EX]

Can someone explain why Kamala is doubling down on Liz Cheney, bringing her to multiple events?
Any detached neo-con rino that is on team Liz is already voting for Kamala

My guess is that the Democrats have been so zealous and thorough in trying to destroy the life and reputation of any conservative who opposes them for four years (see Rudy above), they need a trained monkey to trot out and say "look, we're so magnanimous that we'll spare you and allow you to lick our boots if you just denounce Trump".

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

I’m in illinois and by no means am I in the really blue parts, but I’ve seen only trump hats/shirts/whatever and not seen one person wearing any Kamala merchandise. I’ve also seen maybe a few Kamala signs but a lot of trump signs and trump flags.

Safe to say that the tides are most certainly turning.

Does this mean you will soon be in Healthinois?

 

[Kiwi Lime Pie]

Pro-abortion activists like to call abortion "women's healthcare" and that's not just a euphemism, but rather a way to try and convince normal women that they'll be denied treatment for pregnancy complications if abortion is made illegal.

Don't forget the usage of similarly-phrased euphemisms such as "reproductive rights/freedom/justice" that are used the same way as @quaawaa mentioned above and used interchangeably for both abortion and the implication that abortion rights are the only rights important when it comes to "reproduction".

As a related aside, a former state politician was stomping for fellow Republicans this week. During his radio news interview, he brought up the point that abortion is still being talked about in this part of Kiwi Land even though voters approved a state constitutional amendment for it and the last remaining restrictions are in limbo after a court struck them down. To paraphrase him, "The people already decided this two years ago, but you'd never know based on how much it's being discussed in political ads right now."

Danica isn't a huge name outside of racing, but inside racing she's very well known.

I suppose for people that follow neither racing nor Super Bowl ads, she might be a Literally Who type of person. If I recall, she did at least one Super Bowl ad for GoDaddy featuring her in her racing attire and high heels to be eye candy for both her fans and thirsty tech guys.

Still, it shows how much the other side wants to either dismiss or speak ill of anyone who dares to publicly support Trump.

 

[Mark Goldbridge]

I'm in Hawaii we are all voting Trump, I've seen 3 volcanoes with Harris signs but 10 with Trump signs. We are going to flip Hawaii!

 

[harmy.kook]

As we approach November 5th things will get more and more desperate as the denial on the Kamala side is extremely strong. Plenty of anti-Trump sentiment around, sure, but there is a massive overestimation of how much that would do faced with the idea of Kackling Kamala as president after he insanely forced campaign.

Here is a example of something which will likely be showing up a LOT in the next few days: a (C*nadian ew) "conservative" explaining why you should vote Kamala:

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This right here is why I can't take any EuroFag or Liberal whining about Trump seriously.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

Oh my.

 

[teriyakiburns]

I remember him most as Hitler

I remember him as eight people in one film. Ealing Comedies were the best...

That's not a fair comparison. The media back then were on bush bandwagon.

Are you for real? Bush was literally hitler who stole the election. They spent the first year of his first term declaring him illegitimate and not so subtly calling for the overthrow of his presidency and the installation of someone more "suitable". And despite what @Hey Johnny Bravo said, they didn't let up after 9/11. They bounced between "this man is too stupid to govern" and "Bush made this happen deliberately", with occasional diversions into ad-hitlerum as a treat. Truther bullshit began on the left and was almost mainstream by early 2002; the media and their political allies only backed away from it because they realised it was making George look too competent.

Worse still, they had the perfect opportunity to turn the people against Bush by properly highlighting all the problems with the Patriot act, but they couldn't resist throwing in all their usual digs against "the right" and "militias" and "flyover states" and whatever else, making a person's position on the patriot act a matter of ego and identity, rather than one of policy. This resulted in a bunch of people who would normally oppose something like the patriot act turning around to support it, in order to not be identified with the moonbat opposition and to show their support for "their" side.

None of this was helped by the fact that many of the people pushing these opposition narratives actually supported the ideas behind the patriot act, but couldn't find a way to say so without siding themselves with the evil islamophobe nazis who had voted for Bush. Their narratives became schizophrenic and deranged because of this, and only settled out once Bush was on his way out and they could more openly support all the oppressive laws they had claimed to oppose.

 

[JambledUpWords]

I wonder how much Dems are regretting that last minute switch to Kamala? Yeah, she’s younger than Biden, but that’s about the only upside. She has no charisma, can’t speak without a teleprompter/lots of notes, and isn’t upfront about any real policy, so even other Dems are unsure of what she actually supports. I’m thinking that if they stuck it through with Biden, they would be in a better spot right now.

 

[John.Doe]

These judges need to be thrown into Guantanamo Bay and given the torture treatment.

They deserve it, they fucked him and the integrity of the system, but since the system is corrupted that doesn't matter at all. Rudy, was denied his Constitutional right to due process by crooked judges working hand in glove with government actors and the plaintiffs. He was denied the opportunity to present a defense before a jury in a trial to determine his fault, thanks to crooked judges. I'll explain the sequence, with simplification and commentary.

1. The plaintiffs demand Rudy provide certain documents/items during the discovery phase, which is routine in civil cases.
2. Rudy responds with documents A, B and C. He replies that Cellphone D is in the custody of the FBI as evidence, and since its in a government locker he can't turn it over.
3. The plaintiffs complain that Alex Jones never produced Cellphone D, which is again in the custody of another party.
4. Rudy tells the Judge and plaintiff that they should request Cellphone D from its current legal custodian, the FBI.
5. The Judge declares that because Rudy did not raid FBI HQ with Seal Team Six to retrieve Cellphone D, that he will penalize Rudy for the failure to produce Cellphone D.
6. The Judge decides that, for failure to produce an item Rudy cannot legally access, he will punish Rudy with the highest penalty available at civil trial.
7. The Judge declares that, due to the above, Rudy now has a default judgement against him and is guilty. The plaintiffs win automatically, without any trial of ability for Rudy to defend himself.
8. A new trial, for penalty only, is arranged, where Rudy cannot defend himself, his attorneys are not able to defend him, and he must be struggle sessioned until a sufficiently poisoned jury finds a penalty of billions.

This is the exact same playbook they used first for Alex Jones, except it was a document google had in that case, I believe. The crooked judges seize upon an excuse to penalize the defendant and deny them a trial where they can produce a defense, instead going right to the penalty phase. It is absolutely Soviet, and the judges and attorneys involved should all be disbarred and imprisoned.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

And despite what @Hey Johnny Bravo said, they didn't let up after 9/11. They bounced between "this man is too stupid to govern" and "Bush made this happen deliberately", with occasional diversions into ad-hitlerum as a treat. Truther bullshit began on the left and was almost mainstream by early 2002; the media and their political allies only backed away from it because they realised it was making George look too competent.

9/11 truthers were mostly Libertarians, but this was also over 20 years ago and I've had a lot of head injuries.

 

[mlanguishi]

Oh boy, DU's gonna go insane now.

https://ghostarchive.org/archive/uGeOX

 

[LimeRikki]

Was talking to an elderly liberal who told me he was voting for Trump because Trump is the "devil he knows", and after seeing Kamala's Fox interview and poor public performance, he just doesn't believe that Harris is going to be taken seriously on a global stage and that makes her "dangerous for the future of this country."

This is just one guy. It's definitely not representative of all senior citizen liberals, but it kind of blew me away that he was willing to openly discuss that with me (it's kind of funny, when people know you're a moderate, they're more likely to open up in private)

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[General Emílio Médici]

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This right here is why I can't take any EuroFag or Liberal whining about Trump seriously.

TDS is extremely strong. He really thinks the media is "not going hard enough" and if they just scream about Orange Hitler a little more it will all work out.

Then again, what would you expect from someone who proudly stands with Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger in "country over party"?

 

[Gondolindrim]

I'll never cease to be amazed by how many "Europeans" are campaigning for Harris.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

I wonder how much Dems are regretting that last minute switch to Kamala? Yeah, she’s younger than Biden, but that’s about the only upside. She has no charisma, can’t speak without a teleprompter/lots of notes, and isn’t upfront about any real policy, so even other Dems are unsure of what she actually supports. I’m thinking that if they stuck it through with Biden, they would be in a better spot right now.

I honestly don't know. Biden's numbers cratered after that debate performance ... Cratered in a way that I've honestly never seen a Presidential candidate's numbers crater before. On top of that, everyone would be paying attention to Biden as President if he were running now instead of people openly admitting that they forgot he was still POTUS. lol. And if Biden were still running, then I believe that people would be placing Kamala in the spotlight regardless because of the doubts over Biden's cognitive capabilities. Just imagine if the VP debate had been Vance vs. Harris instead ...

On the other hand ... Kamala is such a bad candidate ...

I honestly believe that the Dems put themselves in a Catch 22 with this election.

 

[Ibanez RG 350EX]

9/11 truthers were mostly Libertarians, but this was also over 20 years ago and I've had a lot of head injuries.

There WAS a period of a few months immediately after 9/11 where the media stopped going after Bush, but it was akin to the ~48 hours after Trump got shot in July.

There was never an actual change in loyalties - it was simply a matter of the Hitler comparisons being too distasteful until the shock wore off.

 

[JambledUpWords]

I'll never cease to be amazed by how many "Europeans" are campaigning for Harris.
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Euroswine have no idea how awful Democrats are domestically, and only pay attention to their foreign policy (which in my opinion is slightly better than the domestic policy). They fall for the same media that calls Trump “the next Hitler,” and it’s frustrating. It’s why I have a hard time taking Euroswine seriously when they talk about American politics. They get mad when Americans are ignorant of their country’s politics, yet they think they know everything about the US.

 

[teriyakiburns]

9/11 truthers were mostly Libertarians, but this was also over 20 years ago and I've had a lot of head injuries.

Nah, they latched onto it with their own twists, but it came from the left. I saw it develop in real time among the sort of people I used to hang out with back then, while the rubble was still burning. It was proof that Bush was working with international finance (which may or may not have been the jews) to create the conditions that would allow him to overturn the law and set himself up as leader for life of a new fascist regime. The subsequent rage against islam was seen as the next step in the fascist playbook, by creating an "other" to unify the people against. The solution was revolution (because that was always the solution for those people).

You know what the worst part is? I actually miss those days, or at least the days leading up to that moment. Ideological certainty is a drug and it feels fucking fantastic.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

Worse still, they had the perfect opportunity to turn the people against Bush by properly highlighting all the problems with the Patriot act, but they couldn't resist throwing in all their usual digs against "the right" and "militias" and "flyover states" and whatever else, making a person's position on the patriot act a matter of ego and identity, rather than one of policy. This resulted in a bunch of people who would normally oppose something like the patriot act turning around to support it, in order to not be identified with the moonbat opposition and to show their support for "their" side.

I think Ron Paul opposed the PATRIOT Act on ideological grounds. It's infuriating that Democrats didn't support the PATRIOT Act because muh Bush but then when Obama came into office that opposition went away and he actually extended a few provisions in 2011.

 

[Breadbassket]

I think Ron Paul opposed the PATRIOT Act on ideological grounds. It's infuriating that Democrats didn't support the PATRIOT Act because muh Bush but then when Obama came into office that opposition went away and he actually extended a few provisions in 2011.

Makes sense considering what happened to the "anti war" crowd after Obama got into office.