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While I did not enjoy seeing Obama win again that night, I vividly remember watching this epic meltdown in real time with my parents on election night.

We laughed so damn hard. And, in hindsight, the results didn't matter anyway because fuck Mitt Romney. :lol:

Karl Rove is an embarrassment and he's proof that politics are a fucking joke since he still (a) has a job and (b) holds some influence. Remember, these are the clowns who wag their fingers at us for supporting Trump.
 
Anyone know why the popular vote is always so close? Last person to win over 55% of the popular vote was Reagan '84. I refuse to believe the parties each represent the interests of half the population. Do most people just not think and vote like their parents?
The electoral college has an amplifying effect on shifts in opinion and demographics. Also it depresses popular vote in for sure states. Nobody in Cali is going out to vote for Kamala... it's a sure thing there. The only people who get out are those who want to make a point or vote down ballot. If we switched to a popular vote system, things would change dramatically for strategy and who votes.
Sometimes it's just "I have an R on my birth certificate" but mostly it is that the party stands for half the country. They change their platforms and strategies to try and pull undecideds and people who are soft on the other side.
 
My current worry is that this election news is starting to feel a lot like 2016 and not in a good way.

Remember how all we heard is that Hillary could not lose, that Hillary was an unstoppable juggernaut, that all the polls show a clear path to victory...ect ect

Now that I'm hearing the same things being said about Trump I'm feeling a sick sense in the pit of my stomach.

Murphy's Law says the universe will do it best to fuck with you when you least expect it.
I get your sentiment, but I think nearly everyone (myself included) was dumbstruck by Trump's upset. It wasn't supposed to be close, let alone a Trump win. It came completely out of left field.

It's not the same now. Even with the betting markets in mind, I dare say all bets are off.
 
My current worry is that this election news is starting to feel a lot like 2016 and not in a good way.

Remember how all we heard is that Hillary could not lose, that Hillary was an unstoppable juggernaut, that all the polls show a clear path to victory...ect ect

Now that I'm hearing the same things being said about Trump I'm feeling a sick sense in the pit of my stomach.

Murphy's Law says the universe will do it best to fuck with you when you least expect it.
The difference was that the media hated Trump, so they would say anything to hurt Trump's chances and to Hillary-cope.

Here, I don't know. They hate Trump, so why would they show Trump having favorable chances? You'd think they'd lie about how Kamala is going to 90% Trump.

So either the odds are so favorable than saying otherwise would make even the normies notice the lie, and/or they realize Kamala actually really sucks.
 
I believed this. Then I was challenged to look into it and actually read the case. So I did. In fact, Jones was given the opportunity to go to Google and request the content under subpoena, which, as it turns out and should surprise something, is something Google basically always does when there is content under subpoena from a defended with a locked account.

And what actually happened is that Alex Jones had grandstanded like a retard repeatedly throughout the case, and the judge was getting sick of his antics. On this last one, he blustered that Google was part of the conspiracy, so you couldn't very well expect him to go request content from Google, since of course they would doctor it, and he refused.

Wasn't the first time he'd pulled a stunt like that, so the judge told him to eat a dick and pay a billion dollars.
Is this the Texas case? Because there’s a lot more issues with Texas from foundation. Like how it got to Texas, his attorney fucking up, and in general more than just the Google issue.
 
I think we can all agree that the DNC has something sneaky planned for election night. The real question is what? Trump better have a game plan to counter this, and it better be more than just 'too big to rig', because the DNC is definitely cooking something up. My guess is that they’ll pull a surprise move: forfeit the presidency but swipe Congress in a classic misdirection. It's an all out guess though, unless they're planning "most votes in history" again and plan for Americans to not do anything about it.
 
The longevity of America's democratic republic system is proof that it's one of the least bad system humanity has devised thus far.
Amen to that. I look at the state of the bongs today- the King doesn't protect his people. It's pretty 1984 over there. I'll keep what the founders gave us.
I voted for Trump on Saturday. My vote may be a drop in the ocean. But if there's something I can do to push things in my favor, I'm going to do it.

The 5-10 minutes I spend at the polling station is more useful than all the seething of doomers.
Semper fi!
 
I think we can all agree that the DNC has something sneaky planned for election night. The real question is what? Trump better have a game plan to counter this, and it better be more than just 'too big to rig', because the DNC is definitely cooking something up. My guess is that they’ll pull a surprise move: forfeit the presidency but swipe Congress in a classic misdirection. It's an all out guess though, unless they're planning "most votes in history" again and plan for Americans to not do anything about it.
Game plan is civil war BABYYYY

Also, I think Tulsi may be gunning for presidency still. Joining republican party is pretty big deal. Her appeal is insane.

Imagine a small MAGA and a woman leader.

60% popular vote.
 
My current worry is that this election news is starting to feel a lot like 2016 and not in a good way.

Remember how all we heard is that Hillary could not lose, that Hillary was an unstoppable juggernaut, that all the polls show a clear path to victory...ect ect

Now that I'm hearing the same things being said about Trump I'm feeling a sick sense in the pit of my stomach.

Murphy's Law says the universe will do it best to fuck with you when you least expect it.
I don't really think it feels like 2016 at all. Most big Trump people have been constantly pushing register ASAP, vote early if possible and talk to friends/family voting for weeks/months to a much larger margin then the GOP ever did. The numbers for early voting and registration look better then anything we ever could've expected as well as the drop off in those things for the dems.

Polls that were +10 biden or +14 killary are like +1 Trump which is crazy but when you look at the methodology they are still doing significant D slants and getting those numbers.

Being able to actually have a social media platform that you don't get instantly banned/censored on and is the biggest platform by far makes it so much different then 2020 it's hard to describe. I know it's only been 4 years but the 2020 censorship was insane and I think people forget how hard that made it to even be a Trump supporter. Also zuck isn't spending 450m this time he is sitting back and just bing chilling.
 
My current worry is that this election news is starting to feel a lot like 2016 and not in a good way.

Remember how all we heard is that Hillary could not lose, that Hillary was an unstoppable juggernaut, that all the polls show a clear path to victory...ect ect

Now that I'm hearing the same things being said about Trump I'm feeling a sick sense in the pit of my stomach.

Murphy's Law says the universe will do it best to fuck with you when you least expect it.

I am going to be repeating myself bringing up this point but:

What floor do the Democrats even have to stand on? What lemonade stand can they pitch to sell a steal to the masses like in 2021?

Even if they "catch Trump sleeping" and pull the rug out from beneath him, knowing full well they will try regardless of circumstances, what defense do they have to lean their legitimacy on? They aren't exactly gaining psychological warfare points like before. Do the Democrats really want another monkey's paw? It sure doesn't sound like it, denial be damned.
 
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My current worry is that this election news is starting to feel a lot like 2016 and not in a good way.

Remember how all we heard is that Hillary could not lose, that Hillary was an unstoppable juggernaut, that all the polls show a clear path to victory...ect ect

Now that I'm hearing the same things being said about Trump I'm feeling a sick sense in the pit of my stomach.

Murphy's Law says the universe will do it best to fuck with you when you least expect it.
The thing is the media were carrying water for Biden and treat Harris with kid gloves. They publish bullshit stories about Trump to this day. I highly doubt they would pivot and so quickly to a Pro Trump move in an attempt to pull the wood over Trump supporters eyes to lull them into a false sense of security.
 
Here, I don't know. They hate Trump, so why would they show Trump having favorable chances? You'd think they'd lie about how Kamala is going to 90% Trump.
They were trying. They couldn't go 90% to Kamala because that would be too obvious. But by keeping it 50/50 in with a slight tilt in Kamala's favor they stay in the relm of probably, keep her competitive, and if a fix was in they could go "It was a coin flip election" and move on. But with the Trump Train plowing though all obstacles, Kamala fucking up EVERY LITTLE BASIC THING this October and early voting going out they need to actually start reflecting reality a bit to keep their credibility.
 
This whole government discussion is missing that the government that is suitable for a nation changes as the people of a nation change. The American Republic was made for a specific group of people and is clearly showing it's problems and cracks. To pull out an old thing a few of my fellow Kiwis who were fans of a certain forum will recognize, SCALE is the ultimate test of a system of government. Decentralization is what's going to resist the destructive effects of SCALE, which is why Feudal Monarchy did so well for so long, why Lincoln was a traitor who ultimately destroyed the Republic, and why America is cracking now. The Republic as originally constructed is dead because the people it was made for are long dead, but like a man dying of radiation poisoning, the body hasn't stopped moving quite yet. Is what it is, we'll adapt. I personally think we need to make the Anglosphere an actual thing and liberate our fellow colonial Anglo nations from their tyrannical governments, their flood of Jeet sub-humans, and then liberate the mother country and place a puppet Stuart on the Throne of England, as God intended.

Although if Eduard Habsburg wants the job, I'd take the Archduke. Seems like a good sort, bit of a nerd, very positive, intelligent, well educated, pious sort.
 
Biden is dropping atom bombs all over this campaign, based.

Biden is lucky that everyone knows he senile. Calling for Trump to be jailed now now now is insane in this tense political environment.

Thank god everyone knows to ignore Grandpaw when he has a senior moment.
 
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