Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

[Positron]

"I lost my balls / tits and I don't even get a lousy T-shirt!"

The Etsy shop.

 

[batteredpancakes]

Optimal-Flow-669 has posted a cost breakdown of her phalloplasty surgeries so far.
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I finally got copies of my medical receipts and decided to total up the charges for my phalloplasty since I have seen people ask about this in the past.

Bit of background: I had full meta a decade ago and paid $35k out of pocket.

The surgery costs for phallo do not include scrotoplasty, primary UL, vaginectomy or hystorectomy since I had those done with my meta. I have the itemized bills for each surgery but only included the final billed amount.

$836,375.87 total plus the $35,000 out of pocket cost for the metoidioplasty she had last decade.

Extra information from another post

I keep seeing posts about folks wanting to know more about SCIP/groin flap phallo and since there is so little information out there I thought I would do an AMA.

To clarify, while often used interchangeably SCIP and groin flap can be considered different procedures. I had groin flap and NOT SCIP flap since they did not use my SCIA (superficial circumflex iliac artery) for the flap. Also, this procedure is very different from abdominal or MLD phalloplasty.

Background: I had full meta a decade ago and then decided to have phallo two years ago. I chose groin flap since I do not scar great and wanted a scar I could easily hide under my pant line.

Stage 1: Creation of penis using groin flap

Stage 1.1: Delay of flap This is where they start to free the tip of the penis from my groin

Stage 1.2: Second delay of flap

Stage 1.3: Release + removal implants + placement expanders. Penis now freed. I had my testicular implants removed and tissue expanders placed in my scrotum.

Stage 2: RFUL + Integra placement + phallus shortening + expander removal Radial forearm urethral lengthen using 7cm wide and standard length graft from inner forearm (reducible in future procedures). They also did a nerve hookup same as RFF. At this time, I also opted to have my phallus shortened.

Stage 2.1: STSG Split-thickness skin graft from thigh to cover arm post-Integra.

Stage 3: UL hook-up + glansplasty To lower UL complications after stage 2 my urethra was still where my meta was and during stage 3 they connected my phallus to my meta urethra so I can STP.

Stage 4: Testicular implant placement

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I opted not to get an ED and instead prefer an external device (the elator).

And it will not let me upload photos for some reason, even in the comments.

 

[batteredpancakes]

Post op TiF is upset to find that her rotdog does not act like a real penis. WolfMan275
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Orgasms post-phalloplasty
This is going to be a blunt post because I haven’t found another post talking about this specific topic before.

What does the feeling of horniness and jerking off actually feel like for you guys?

For me, I notice that when I’m jerking off, my body has this pattern of mini pleasure convulsions- like it’s way of getting hard. They’re not painful, just little intense bursts that I can’t control every time I’m stroking my dick.

I’m starting to feel more insecure about this, especially that I’ve had phallo. I was really hoping for my dick to function closely to how a cisman’s dick does and have sex in a “normal” way as well. Thus, why I’m posting this in this forum.

The obvious upside is that I have fantastic erotic sensation and I’m extremely grateful for that. But I unconsciously assumed that after I would complete phalloplasty, my dick would be able to function like a cis-man’s but just without sperm and I would need an ED. I guess I also thought I would still feel my buried T dick get hard underneath as my form of pleasure, but now my body is functioning this way and I’m not sure how to deal with it.

Can any body relate to this at all? Or would be willing to share their experiences with masturbation/sex and pleasure post phallo?

I know this is a pretty personal post but would be very helpful to hear from others. Thanks

I unconsciously assumed that after I would complete phalloplasty, my dick would be able to function like a cis-man’s but just without sperm and I would need an ED.

They remind me of a cargo cult. If it looks like an X then it is an X and therefore must do everything an X does.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

@batteredpancakes
I was really hoping for my dick to function closely to how a cisman’s dick does

When people ask why I hate Pooners so much, I'll refer them to this post. Thanks.

 

[GloriousScarf]

I was really hoping for my dick to function closely to how a cisman’s dick does and have sex in a “normal” way as well.

BITCH, HOW?????

 

[pink cigarettes]

BITCH, HOW?????

Thank you!!! I know these women are stupid, mentally ill, and/or kept in the dark about the outcome of SRS, but....HOW does she expect this???
Sure, her (flayed, mangled) clitoris is "buried" (shudder) under a tube of arm flesh- at best it's kinda going to get stimulated like dry-humping with jeans on in highschool. Apart from that, she's just got a flesh roll-up! That's all it is!
If she pulled her eye out then had a surgeon plop a wadded up ball of arm tissue in the socket, does she think she would see???? "Nah bro kings it's all good, I got the retinal hook-up"

 

[Ruined by the Rain]

Thank you!!! I know these women are stupid, mentally ill, and/or kept in the dark about the outcome of SRS, but....HOW does she expect this???

What unconditional trust in authority common amongst leftist types leads to

 

[Hubelublub]

Post op TiF is upset to find that her rotdog does not act like a real penis. WolfMan275
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They remind me of a cargo cult. If it looks like an X then it is an X and therefore must do everything an X does.

Is there any research on what happens when a cult dissipates and all its adherents have to consult with reality again?
Do some cling to the illusion forever? Do some realise they were taken in and go postal?

I guess I'm just wondering what sort of death toll, and who the victims will be, when all this shit dies.

 

[Pallas' Cat]

$836,375.87 total plus the $35,000 out of pocket cost

I want to believe that the $836,375.87 was out of pocket too, but I've been here long enough to know that a big chunk of that was probably covered by Medicaid or private health insurance.

 

[pink cigarettes]

Is there any research on what happens when a cult dissipates and all its adherents have to consult with reality again?
Do some cling to the illusion forever? Do some realise they were taken in and go postal?

I guess I'm just wondering what sort of death toll, and who the victims will be, when all this shit dies.

Studies show about half leave and about half double down and become even more hardcore and evangelize even more. The most famous study on this was made into a book called "When Prophecy Fails."

 

[Pallas' Cat]

Studies show about half leave and about half double down and become even more hardcore and evangelize even more. The most famous study on this was made into a book called "When Prophecy Fails."

Considering how many in this cult have permanently mutilated themselves, it will probably be more than half that double down. Although with trans, there is a third category in play: 41%. So who knows what the final spread will be.

 

[GloriousScarf]

I guess I'm just wondering what sort of death toll, and who the victims will be, when all this shit dies.

I'm guessing at least a few murder / suicides when the trans children get to their mid/late 20s and start seeing their peers settle down and have kids and realising what was taken from them.

 

[Procrastinhater]

Post op TiF is upset to find that her rotdog does not act like a real penis. WolfMan275
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They remind me of a cargo cult. If it looks like an X then it is an X and therefore must do everything an X does.

Do these women do no research before committing to such an invasive sirgery?
Even without researching outcomes you'd think basic human reasoning would have let them figure it out.
You've carved yourself up, damaging fuck knows how many nerves in an extremely nerve rich area, and "buried" your clit (F) under a poorly vascularized and mostly completely numb roll of flayed off arm skin and fat fixed to your mutilated crotch, and you're really surprised when you don't have any or have limited sensation?
Bruh Sis...
You seriously expected that a flesh crafted roll up made from flayed arm skin would "act like a cis penis"?
I'm going to guess this woman has never actually touched or interacted with a penis and has only ever seen one on a screen.
A dick isn't just a roll of fat and skin, why would a roll of fat and skin act like one?

Is there any research on what happens when a cult dissipates and all its adherents have to consult with reality again?

Yes actually, you can watch it on YouTube just search "Jonestown Helicopter Footage".

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

BITCH, HOW?????

With the power of wishful thinking

 

[pink cigarettes]

Considering how many in this cult have permanently mutilated themselves, it will probably be more than half that double down. Although with trans, there is a third category in play: 41%. So who knows what the final spread will be.

Sorry for mobilefagging. Here's the chart from that book outlining the general conditions for someone to double down. Of course, it's just one old study and troons are different than the cult they observed, but it's interesting.

Spoiler

- Anyone who has made it into this thread has fulfilled numbers 1 and 2.

- The 3rd and 4th are tricky because a clear failure and refutation of the groups mission (or whatever) is necessary to trigger the leave-or-double-down reaction. (In the study it was the date of the apocalypse coming and going: an obvious failure). For troons I'm not sure what would fulfill this requirement on a wider scale.
(We might be seeing the start of this with people like Marci Bowers stating that he's against performing SRS on kids who have taken puberty blockers. Gotta start somewhere. Probably have to allow for some differences on these points though: troonism is extremely cult-like, but there's no main leader or clear collective purpose)

- The 5th is obvious enough, just look at reddit

 

[Hubelublub]

I'm guessing at least a few murder / suicides when the trans children get to their mid/late 20s and start seeing their peers settle down and have kids and realising what was taken from them.

So that Audrey pooner with the schizo diary might not be an outlier, but merely a forebearer of what's to come?

Just wondering how many layers of reinforcement we might need to start building on the walls around our preschools.

 

[Procrastinhater]

So that Audrey pooner with the schizo diary might not be an outlier, but merely a forebearer of what's to come?

Just wondering how many layers of reinforcement we might need to start building on the walls around our preschools.

Spoiler: Pooner Shooters and Preventing Future Atrocities

What we need to do is ignore hysterical anti gun Leftists and start allowing teachers to bring their EDC to work as long as they can qualify on a CQB room clearing and weapon handling course.

Either that or have trained armed security on site. Theres plenty of parents and others in the community that are already experienced and/or competent that would volunteer. School shootings, like all mass shootings, only occur in "gun free zones" because they are soft targets. Theres a reason mass shooters don't try to shoot up gun ranges or police stations, these are fucking cowards who want soft targets. Having armed security on site would deter most of them, and for the minority of crazies that weren't deterred having an armed and trained response already on site would at least end the situation quicker and save lives.
You're never going to prevent 100% of these things, in which case its better to have a response already on site that knows the layout of the building rather than have to wait for police response and then gamble wether you get a Nashville (less than 3 minutes from entering the building to sending that Pooner to Hell) or Uvalde ( 2 hours of cops standing around with their dicks in their hands listening to children being shot).

There needs to be strict and effective CQB/Room Clearance training though, it's no good having untrained teachers armed, that would just potentially make any situation worse.

I'm guessing at least a few murder / suicides when the trans children get to their mid/late 20s and start seeing their peers settle down and have kids and realising what was taken from them.

I remember a discussion with either Null or Jim (maybe both) a while back where they were wondering about just that, I think as some of these people start to realize just what has been done to them we're going to see either an increase in Audrey Hale style shootings or potentially scarier, a new wave of serial killers like we did in the 70's and 80's.
Theres a lot of people that have been lied to and indoctrinated into believing a fantasy and that have mutilated and destroyed their bodies chasing it, and these aren't stable people to begin with. At least a percentage of the ones who realize how badly they have been deceived and used by the pharma industry and the ideological fanatic Left are going to react by lashing out violently.
We're already seeing it.
Audrey Hale was only one that succeeded in carrying out an attack, there have been a few others stopped before they could purely because their OpSec was so bad and they told too many of the wrong (or right) people.

 

[GloriousScarf]

So that Audrey pooner with the schizo diary might not be an outlier, but merely a forebearer of what's to come?

Just wondering how many layers of reinforcement we might need to start building on the walls around our preschools.

I was assuming their parents (who should have known better) would be the primary targets.

 

[Hubelublub]

start allowing teachers to bring their EDC to work

Teachers being the ones posting tranny flags in their classrooms and asking 5 year olds what their pronouns are? Those ones?

I was assuming their parents (who should have known better) would be the primary targets.

I mean, you'd hope so, but these are the people who believed a masticated ballsack would serve as plausible labia. The logic trees in their brains are broken.

Thinking the lunatic with nothing to lose is going to be logical and apply his anger fairly seems like a good way to end up in a televised memorial.

 

[Positron]

especially that I’ve had phallo. I was really hoping for my dick to function closely to how a cisman’s dick does and have sex in a “normal” way

When I was 3, I saw an ad of Toblerone chocolate in which people blow at the chocolate bar like a harmonica. I eventually pleaded my dad to by me one -- and I was devastated that I couldn't play music on it.

As I said I was 3; what is the pooner's excuse?