Careercow Donald J Trump - 45th/47th President of the USA, convicted felon, Epstein bro, Putin simp, serial liar, sore loser, cheat and the Chris-Chan of Presidents. THIS IS NOT A POLITICAL DEBATE THREAD.

CALLED IT!! You fell right into my trap of pointing out how my argument doesn't work!
You had a stroke and started comparing the electoral college to Major League Baseball's World Series.
The Electoral College is not designed in any way akin to Major League Baseball's World Series.

I am not going to write a dissertation on why you're wrong and correct you. I'm also not even the person you were replying to in the first place. I'm just here to tell you that you talk like a fag and your shit's all fucked up.
 
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Nobody asked, faggot
You had a stroke and started comparing the electoral college to Major League Baseball's World Series.
you can compare any two things. Replying, "that comparison is dumb" is not a valid rebuttal.

The Electoral College is not designed in any way akin to Major League Baseball's World Series.
I pointed to a similarity. If you disagree, then you need to quote that similarity and explain why it works for the world series, but not for the presidential election.

I'm wondering if you're even intelligent enough to understand what you've been asked to do. I accurately predicted that I wouldn't get a meaningful rebuttal. I can argue against my own position better than any of you guys. That's pretty sad.
 
I have an argument against using the popular vote.

The presidency is decided by the electoral college for a similar reason that the world series is decided by games, and not by total runs. If your opponent has one or two bad days and loses big - you get 40 or 50 runs on them - but you lose all the other games ...who is actually the better team?

Answer: it's the team that wins consistently, not the one that won by a fluke.

The president is president of ...the united *states*. Therefore, he is elected by winning states.

I'm certain you wont like this argument, but that's okay. At least now you can never again say, "they never have any argument." But I bet I'll be able to say, "when presented with an argument, they have no meaningful rebuttal to it."


There's not magical about a swing state. California could be a swing state if only didn't drive away sane people with your insane policies.
We know, you're upset that the popular vote of the country usually goes to Democrats so you want to keep DEI for Republicans going. Someone in California's vote shouldn't count less than someone in Michigan

I got you. On my phone you long press on a photo and a menu pops up. You can also take a screenshot.

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Yet Thunderdomers still call gay people the "groomers" and pedos.
 
Logical fallacy: appeal to motive.

As I predicted, none of you are capable of a meaningful rebuttal. You're literally not smart enough to do it.
I don't give a fuck about the validity, or lack thereof, of your argument. I just wanted to point out that you sound like this faggot meme here.

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Ghislaine Maxwell actively recruited girls from Mar-a-Lago.
Virginia Giuffre herself was literally picked out at Mar a Lago. Without Trump, epstein would probably still be alive and raping 14 year olds every day.

I've noticed this too. Walz joked about Elon being his "running mate". I think Vance was just a bad look in general. He's so pudgy and soy, while Walz talks like a real man.
Vance looks like the Nightman with an unfortunate Cushings moon face :story:

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Is it true trumped fucked his daughter Ivanka?
He striked me as the type that would rape his own daughter back when he announced his run in 2015. Then I saw the old interview of him saying he would date her while forcing her into his lap, very similar body language to that infamous Epstien and Emma Watson picture. So yeah he did, and the two older sons know about it and are too cucked/ weak to defend their sister and are just their dads pet
 
I have an argument against using the popular vote.

The presidency is decided by the electoral college for a similar reason that the world series is decided by games, and not by total runs. If your opponent has one or two bad days and loses big - you get 40 or 50 runs on them - but you lose all the other games ...who is actually the better team?

Answer: it's the team that wins consistently, not the one that won by a fluke.

The president is president of ...the united *states*. Therefore, he is elected by winning states.

I'm certain you wont like this argument, but that's okay. At least now you can never again say, "they never have any argument." But I bet I'll be able to say, "when presented with an argument, they have no meaningful rebuttal to it."


There's not magical about a swing state. California could be a swing state if only didn't drive away sane people with your insane policies.
Here's your proper rebuttal, then.

To facilitate the goal you've stated the electoral college to have, said college was meant to be a proportional representation of each state's respective population so that the states all still get an appropriate amount of say to their actual percentage of the populace of the overall country. The electors ensure that each state's overall culture is indeed properly reflected, but ideally, their influences are still weighted fairly in regards to American culture as a whole. Despite this, elector counts have not been updated to reflect states' actual populations in a long time, giving less-populated states an outsized influence compared to what they deserve even if you were to argue that the electoral college is the proper way of running things.

Republicans have fought to keep it this way for similar reasons to gerrymandering*: they would rather divide up the populace in a way that's favorable to them so that large chunks of Democrat votes are thrown out but proportionally less Republican ones are, only compounded by the outdated elector counts. California has 67x the population of Wyoming (39m vs. 584k) yet has only 18x the number of electors (54 vs 3). This is not dividing a sports contest up into equal segments to smooth out statistical anomalies like a baseball series or a tennis set. This is the electoral college, albeit at its most extreme example, literally giving a voter in a red state nearly quadruple the voice (67 / 18 = 3.7x) of that of a voter in a blue state. In a properly-weighted college, Wyoming would have 1 elector to California's 67, and the other states would all be re-weighted accordingly. The same goes with the House of Representatives--as outlined in the Connecticut Compromise, the Senate is the chamber of Congress where states are given equal say while the House is explicitly stated to provide states representation proportional to their populations, yet this too has not been updated to reflect the actual populations for far too long. Again, this is solely to the Republicans' benefit.

It should be noted that in the past 8 elections--every election since 1988, so nearly four decades--Republicans have won the popular vote exactly once, in 2004, in the midst of post-9/11 hysteria. In 1992, 1996, 2000, 2008, 2012, 2016, and 2020, the majority of Americans voted for the Democrat candidate. This is not statistical noise. This is not "the Republicans having a bad day". This is a clear generational shift since the days where Reagan famously won a whopping 525 electoral votes to Mondale's 13, and yet the Republicans have hung on by virtue of an outdated electoral system that favors them despite their ever-shrinking favor among the overall public. Yet in two of those cases, 2000 and 2016, they have won power despite the objections of the majority of actual voters and in both cases, the consequences have been catastrophic. If the electoral college accurately reflected the peoples it's meant to represent, the Republicans would arguably not even be a major party anymore.

And you may argue that would be unfair, or "tyranny of the majority", for the Democrats alone to be the major party. But there's a term for the opposite scenario where instead the minority unfairly holds a disproportionate amount of power: in that case, it's just called tyranny. A scenario where the Republicans' influence shrinks in accordance with their shrinking constituency would not be "unfair", but the system working as intended: one where a significantly smaller faction does not have equal or arguably greater say than a larger one, and where parties with dying ideologies and constituencies themselves die out and are replaced with new ones rather than stick around for what appears solely to be the sake of tradition at this point.

There is a reason many states are forming a coalition to disregard their own votes entirely and award their electors to the popular vote winner. You may point out, perhaps as what you believe is some sort of "gotcha", that this is primarily blue states entering this coalition, and you'd be correct, because the blue states currently have no other recourse to combat their downsized influence compared to what they deserve. And it should be noted that should Trump somehow win the popular vote, this coalition will indeed obligate all those states to turn their votes in as red, so it's a double-edged sword, not merely a Democrat power grab. Nonetheless, it's possible this may be the last election where the NPVIC's influence does not exceed 270 electoral votes, so the electoral college may be on borrowed time as it is in its current state, barring a possible elector count refresh.

Because here's the thing about baseball and tennis: the number of players on each team is equal.


*The following interactive demonstration goes into detail on gerrymandering via small-scale simulations. It's not hard to see the same principles at play in the current state of the electoral college. Note particularly the "packing and cracking" concept.
 
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He striked me as the type that would rape his own daughter back when he announced his run in 2015. Then I saw the old interview of him saying he would date her while forcing her into his lap, very similar body language to that infamous Epstien and Emma Watson picture. So yeah he did, and the two older sons know about it and are too cucked/ weak to defend their sister and are just their dads pet
Narcissist family dynamics involves picking kids to either put on a pedestal or abuse. Given Trump’s extreme misogyny and the fact that Tiffany is basically nonexistent, it wouldn't surprise me if he treated Jr as the golden child out of the bunch. Narcissists are completely predictable and it makes sense for one to not only name a kid after himself but also treat the kid named after himself (and thus the purest extension of his ego) much better than the others.

That kind of dynamic extends into adulthood, the golden child usually remains an asshole who thinks the abused sibling is beneath them and that they deserve all the shit they get, even if they didn't actively participate in the abuse themselves (which is likely. Sibling abuse, especially from older brothers to younger sisters, is horrifyingly common and usually dismissed as normal sibling rivalry)

If Ivanka was diddled they simply don't care, don't believe her, are scared because it would expose their own behavior towards her, or would never make daddy angry since he's the most important person in the world and what he says matters most.
 
He striked me as the type that would rape his own daughter back when he announced his run in 2015. Then I saw the old interview of him saying he would date her while forcing her into his lap, very similar body language to that infamous Epstien and Emma Watson picture. So yeah he did, and the two older sons know about it and are too cucked/ weak to defend their sister and are just their dads pet
To be fair to Trump, I would fuck Ivanka too.
 
Salty faggot the only ones without a clue are the doofuses who think our country is based on the worth of individual states when it isn't and never has been the case. It doesnt matter how much money your blue shithole makes or how many people live there. There's still other states with a say and if your faggot candidate can't appeal to them then that sounds like a "you" problem.

Still, kinda funny how libshits think "I would win if the current rules in place weren't there" actually means anything. I'd win chess matches against Fabio Cururana if I could just throw pieces off his board and keep him from playing, those gosh darn rules keep getting in the way

Logical fallacy: appeal to motive.

As I predicted, none of you are capable of a meaningful rebuttal. You're literally not smart enough to do it.

If this is who he's going up against, then...lol, lmao even
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It's like they hired some sperg from this thread to operate the official Kamala Harris xitter account.
Speaking of which, I am going to enjoy lurking this thread on election day. I did not get the pleasure 8 years ago but something tells me there is going to be some fantastic posts from the usual suspects.

You Trump simps keep getting lost looking for your containment thread (understandable) - you should be able to find your hugbox / fart smelling chamber in the Thunderdome.

The purpose of this thread is to mock Trumps many failings, and it's contents are likely to make you upset.

PS. Those of you on the fence, please do not vote rapeclown. It was entertaining at first, but I would like to get off the ride now, thank you.
 
If this is who he's going up against, then...lol, lmao even
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It's like they hired some sperg from this thread to operate the official Kamala Harris xitter account.
Speaking of which, I am going to enjoy lurking this thread on election day. I did not get the pleasure 8 years ago but something tells me there is going to be some fantastic posts from the usual suspects.
One small problem with your line of thinking: This is only ineffective if the actions Trump had taken don't WARRANT the "Hitler" label. The whole argument over Goldwin's Law was basically to not label anything you don't like to be Nazi or Hitler. If trump simply just said that he wants a strong military, I can see how this label can be ineffective.

The problem is, Trump states he wants to literally terminate the constitution, jail people for burining the flag, want the military to be loyal to him like "Hitler", and he wants to deport LEGAL immigrants for bullshit Facebook boomer tier conspiracies. Outside of the trump bubble, this label sticks with normies. Normies know Trump is a spergy little faggot who screeched about the election and tried to STEAL it during 2020. It's not exactly an unfair assessment to make labeling someone as someone like "Hitler."

If it walks like Hitler, Talks like Hitler, acts like Hitler, then he's probably Hitler.
 
One small problem with your line of thinking: This is only ineffective if the actions Trump had taken don't WARRANT the "Hitler" label. The whole argument over Goldwin's Law was basically to not label anything you don't like to be Nazi or Hitler. If trump simply just said that he wants a strong military, I can see how this label can be ineffective.

The problem is, Trump states he wants to literally terminate the constitution, jail people for burining the flag, want the military to be loyal to him like "Hitler", and he wants to deport LEGAL immigrants for bullshit Facebook boomer tier conspiracies. Outside of the trump bubble, this label sticks with normies. Normies know Trump is a spergy little faggot who screeched about the election and tried to STEAL it during 2020. It's not exactly an unfair assessment to make labeling someone as someone like "Hitler."

If it walks like Hitler, Talks like Hitler, acts like Hitler, then he's probably Hitler.
Honestly I was never on the whole "Trump is Hitler" equation, usually I scoffed at the jackass saying it.

But this one really made me do this.
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