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John Badman said:
Israel is a cuck.
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Israel is giving Iran yet another chance to take the offramp, penetrating its defenses with ease and hitting whatever targets it wants, trying to get the message through those thick Persian skulls: we can do whatever we want to you, so how about you lol calm down before we decide to put brass knucks on instead of slapping you with a glove
Lian Xing said:
This is incredibly short sighted. The west has abrogated all their manufacturing to the east. It’s not 1995; China is making strides in materials; Brasil manufacturers world class airplanes; Russia can do anything the west can for 60% the cost. India is becoming a manufacturing and software hub.
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You immediately start off with the fake and gay meme that there is no manufacturing left in the west, so I almost didn't bother to read the rest, but then I would have missed the gems of "India is becoming a manufacturing and software hub" :story: and especially "Russia can do anything the West can for 60% of the cost" - while Russia has to buy ammunition and missiles from Iran and North Korea and buy drones from Iran because its domestic production can't ramp up fast enough to meet military demand, and their military technology has been outclassed again and again by Western military technology that is basically 20 years old in the mud pit that is Ukraine. "China is making strides in materials" excellent, vague enough to be meaningless. Brazil manufactures small and medium sized airplanes that are no more technologically advanced than what the West was building in the 1980s because it knows it doesn't have the chops to compete with North America and Europe on the biggest/most cutting-edge/most profitable planes. Good for them. They ain't making Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Airbus, BAE, etc. lose sleep at night with their world-class lineup of 30 year old design Gripen fighters and mid-sized Embraer passenger jets sorry not sorry

Also that is not what the word abrogate means ffs
 
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Let's see how the Biden admin deals with the Iran strike lol is kamala gonna stutter her way through this one by blaming Trump
 
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Here is the article that says the mail-in ballots video being destroyed is a fake made by Russian actors.

Russian actors made fake video depicting mail-in ballots for Trump being destroyed, FBI says​

Russian actors made a widely circulated video falsely depicting mail-in ballots for Donald Trump being destroyed in Pennsylvania, U.S. officials said Friday.

A video that showed mail-in ballots for Trump apparently being destroyed in a suburban Philadelphia county took off quickly on social media Thursday afternoon.

U.S. officials said in a statement sent by the FBI that they believe the video was “manufactured and amplified” by Russian actors. The officials say it’s part of “Moscow’s broader effort to raise unfounded questions about the integrity of the U.S. election and stoke divisions among Americans.”

The information was released in a joint statement by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the FBI and the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. AP’s earlier story follows below.

YARDLEY, Pa. (AP) — A video that showed mail-in ballots for former President Donald Trump apparently being destroyed in a suburban Philadelphia county took off quickly on social media Thursday afternoon.

Cries of election fraud came right behind.

But within three hours Bucks County election officials were countering the video, identifying it as fake.

“The envelope and materials depicted in this video are clearly not authentic materials belonging to or distributed by the Bucks County Board of Elections,” read a statement released by the board on Thursday.

This latest claim involving a key county is an example not only of attempts to influence voters in the final weeks of a contentious election, but of how election officials have learned to move swiftly to counter false narratives over the last four years.

Since 2020, distrust in the voting process has taken hold among many Americans, creating an additional challenge for state and local officials who must not only administer elections but repeatedly explain and highlight the safeguards in place to protect the vote.

Election officials around the country have spent recent years preparing for the onslaught of false claims, from running worst-case-scenario tabletop exercises to shoring up emergency procedures with law enforcement to publishing proactive fact checks on their websites. Many have also increased transparency with the public, opening their doors for all-access tours in hopes it will head off some of the most damaging conspiracy theories.

The Bucks County video isn’t the only case in which this work has paid off. When AI-generated robocalls targeted Democratic voters in New Hampshire days before its primary in January, state authorities quickly issued statements and began investigations, which ultimately led to criminal charges and fines for the person responsible.

Disinformation experts say the Bucks County video signals a trend that’s likely to increase in the days leading up to Election Day — insidious disinformation, sometimes from foreign sources, that aims to undermine the public’s confidence in the electoral process.

This particular video is “almost certainly” connected to a Russian disinformation network known as Storm-1516 or CopyCop, according to Darren Linvill, the co-director of the Media Forensics Hub at Clemson University, who has closely studied the group.

The user who popularized the video on X had been an early amplifier of several other narratives from this network, he said. These included a fake video that spread earlier this month with unfounded allegations against Democratic vice presidential nominee Tim Walz. The user also amplified the very first narrative Linvill’s team tracked from Storm-1516, back in August 2023.

The style and appearance of the latest video matches other videos from the network, including its use of a Black actor, Linvill said.

That’s long been a trend in fake videos originating in Russia, said Josephine Lukito, an assistant professor of journalism at the University of Texas at Austin who has researched Russian disinformation. She said the video’s use of a Black actor with an accent is intentional as a way to inflame existing divisions on American soil.

“It tends to amplify racism, right?” Lukito said. “There’s already this kind of groundswell of discussion about immigrants that are illegally voting or immigration broadly. Russian disinformation absolutely exploits that.”

After the video had been debunked, the X user deleted their original post and shared multiple posts from other accounts decrying it as fake.

America PAC, a super political action committee launched by billionaire X owner Elon Musk to support Trump in his bid for a second term, was among those denouncing the video — a stark contrast to the misinformation that frequently spreads on X, often spurred by Musk himself. The PAC declined a request for further comment.

There were multiple clues that immediately indicated the Bucks County video was fabricated. For example, under Pennsylvania law, election officials must wait until 7 a.m. ET on Election Day before they can begin to process ballots cast by mail and prepare them to be counted.

Other tip-offs included the dark green color on the left side of the outer envelopes — it is actually more of a kelly green — and the glossiness of the inner and outer envelopes, which in reality have a matte finish. Plus, none of the envelopes in the video had voters’ return addresses written on them.

Citizen complaints from across Bucks County and a call from the Yardley Borough police chief alerted District Attorney Jennifer Schorn that the video was circulating online. Schorn was in a pretrial conference Thursday and when she emerged she saw the calls about the video pouring in.

“Immediately at that point, we began investigating the video and made our ultimate conclusion that it was, in fact, fabricated,” she said in a phone interview Friday.

The district attorney’s office initially investigated the video along with the Yardley Borough Police Department.

Schorn was reluctant to describe how authorities reached their conclusion, citing concerns that subsequent fraudsters could improve their tactics. She said the FBI picked up the investigation immediately and is aiming to find who made the video. The FBI declined to comment on its investigation.

Schorn said her office has assigned two attorneys to screen allegations of fraud and that they’ll be on “24/7” on Election Day.

Both Republicans and Democrats in the county called the video out as bogus and expressed concern about how it could affect the election.

“To us, this is disinformation, aimed at scaring voters and dissuading them from using mail-in ballots or on-demand voting that uses the same mail-in ballot process,” the Bucks County Republican Committee wrote in a statement. “We have seen dirty underhanded tactics this year, from the defacing of signs, letters threatening Trump supporters, and now this video trying to scare Bucks County voters.”

Pennsylvania Sen. Steve Santarsiero, chair of the Bucks County Democratic Committee, called the video an attempt to “cast doubt on our vote by mail system and, ultimately, the outcome of the Presidential Election” in a statement.

Neither the origin of the video nor its intent have been confirmed.

The fast response to the video was possible because people spoke up, according to Schorn. She added that she thinks this incident showed officials are ready for what could be coming and hopes that it “continues in that vein.”

“I don’t at all blame Americans for wanting to be reassured that the system can be trusted,” she said. “I don’t blame that because, sadly, you know, there are criminal entities out there that do undermine processes. I felt reassured yesterday. I felt like it worked the way it was supposed to.”
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Lian Xing said:
The assholes in charge of the west have absolutely evaded their responsibility to their people by moving from an economy that produces something to an economy of financial products. Only the former keeps medical supplies in stock.
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Then they'll pour money into building new chemical plants that make Vitamin D or whatever if/when it becomes necessary, sorry it's not the big deal you think it is
 
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draggs said:
sorry it's not the big deal you think it is
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It's a huge deal. The people with the experience to do those things are gone. Manufacturing facilities don't magically appear out of thin air. If you don't preserve that capability, you lose it. Look at the shitshow that was trying to recreate FOGBANK. That was only a single generation removed from the people who created the process. Now multiply that across countless industries. The west is fucked.
 
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Nameless One said:
Shortsighted as always, brainless and only emotionally charged. I love this board. Cheer for possible corruption of a party you prefer and moral grandstand on another day. What's next, freeing rapists like them is a good thing because Republicans did it? Stepping on constitutional rights like they do is okay when Republicans do it? Encouraging dirty fights in politik will only make everything else as dirty, and its already a sewer when it comes to worthless and subhuman candidates.
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Assuming this is even true and Pressler is even the one responsible the it will be a matter for the courts to address. We don't know any of the details and I doubt 2500 registrations will be enough to swing the results of the election. For all any of us know it could be total bullshit just like the video of someone supposedly ripping up ballots.
 
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