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You miss the point. The gas car burned the gallon of gas as well as the 40 miles worth of electricity it took to refine it. You can cut out the middleman.
You're missing the point bro

The same amount of electricity gets you 40 miles either way

If you don't make the gallon of gas, it doesn't exist. So it isn't 40 miles worth of electricity + the electricity equivalent of that one gallon of gas. It's 40 miles worth of electricity, stop
 
I know it's been said before but I was talking to the black guys at work about the election. They still absolutely hate the idea of a "black" woman in power. As they like everyone find them completely insufferable. Her record for mass incarceration of pot heads was a close second in their concerns. They aren't going to vote for megaracist trump obviously so they just aren't voting. It is incredible. Dems managed to turn the guaranteed win of "anyone but trump" to this circus

In many ways I do have sympathy for the Democrat situation. Trump is a hell of an opponent to face. Democrats like to tout record turn out in 2020 but I often wonder if they realize the implications and situation of that election. Trump had record turnout as well, but every voter for Trump actually voted for Trump. Because of covid and the ability to turn the average American into a terminally online redditer through stay at home, democrats were able to get a lot of not-trump votes. Republicans simply don't do this, a vote for Trump, a vote for Bush, a vote for Romney is a vote for that candidate. A vote for Kamala is many times a vote for not Trump and that worked in 2020 but we've seen 4 years of how that kind of vote logic turns out for the country.

I think democrats sold their soul a while back and they don't realize it. Kamala is such a terrible candidate that they are losing their "always vote blue" voters and the way they've run their elections since 2008, that is a good chunk of their base.
 
You're missing the point bro

The same amount of electricity gets you 40 miles either way
Exactly, so why would you bother also paying to drill for, pump, pipe or ship, refine, flare the waste, transport again by truck, then inefficiently burn the hydrocarbon - which has huge secondary costs of causing localised air pollution and climate change.

The technology now exists that you don’t need to do all that shit. Sure, you have to do other shit, but at one point we moved on from horses and carts, and from coal powered tractors.
 
Rogan's interview with Trump now sits at a commanding 8 Million+ Views on Youtube and it's not even 7 AM (eastern time). I don't see how the Harris campaign can't feel utterly dejected because this interview and the MLB World Series (Go Dodgers!) has undoubtedly knocked their stupid Beyonce concert event to third place in terms of getting attention.

I mean for crying out loud Beyonce's audience has to be female older millennials. That demographic was already voting for Harris. You could argue Joe gets the opposite male demo but I think Rogan also gets a mass number of people who are more politically independent.
 
Billionaires: "What have you done for me lately?" I think a lot of Leftist journo attack dogs are going to lose their jobs in the next four years.
They've been losing their jobs near constantly since the Obama admin's "anti-" propaganda bill money ran out.

So it's the same shit as in 2016. Only now woke cult has far more members, so screeching will be even louder
Yes and no. There's a major pendulum swing going on, where corporations are realizing spending 450,000,000 to sell $1,000,000 isn't a winning business proposition. It's why you have people at DC on zoom calls talking about the importance to make sure it's not possible to undo the "great progress" they've made with various comics IPs and the like.

Not even the left likes Kamala. They're not going to riot for her. They MIGHT riot performatively to punish Trump.
 
That’s not quite true. And Trump was complaining about off shore turbines anyway IIRC. But yes, that’s where his retardation on this matter stems from.
I just checked and you're right, it was the offshore ones.

Wind power is the best renewable energy when done correctly. Slapping them about haphazardly is fucking retarded. Unfortunately, we haven't, and won't do wind power correctly because of how effective it is.
 
This is the second time they've managed to score the easiest-to-avoid own goal in the world.

If you say you're bringing a famous performer, you bring them, and they perform. This is so obvious that I'm shocked they fucked it up once, let alone twice.

If you don't do that, it doesn't matter how ambiguous or unambiguous you make the description of their attendance. People are gonna be disappointed, and that's not what you want at a rally.
I wonder if there's some backstage drama going on with the campaign and Beyonce. Someone was speculating that the Diddy raid was done so the Dems could get their hands on his blackmail files for their own use. Maybe also to serve as a shot across the bow to entertainers reminding them that no matter how big they get they're still pawns and should remember their place.

Was Beyonce unable to take five minutes to sing, considering she's supposed to be such a strong backer of the campaign? There's something more going on here. Perhaps entertainers are starting to go the same way as Silicon Valley, frustrated at how much the D party demands while giving so little in return. Kamala's campaign projects massive weakness, it's the perfect time for puppets to start going rogue.
 
Was Beyonce unable to take five minutes to sing, considering she's supposed to be such a strong backer of the campaign? There's something more going on here. Perhaps entertainers are starting to go the same way as Silicon Valley, frustrated at how much the D party demands while giving so little in return. Kamala's campaign projects massive weakness, it's the perfect time for puppets to start going rogue.
I think it's a lot simpler than that: you have to pay for her to sing, no exceptions made.
 
Rogan's interview with Trump now sits at a commanding 8 Million+ Views on Youtube and it's not even 7 AM (eastern time). I don't see how the Harris campaign can't feel utterly dejected because this interview and the MLB World Series (Go Dodgers!) has undoubtedly knocked their stupid Beyonce concert event to third place in terms of getting attention.

I mean for crying out loud Beyonce's audience has to be female older millennials. That demographic was already voting for Harris. You could argue Joe gets the opposite male demo but I think Rogan also gets a mass number of people who are more politically independent.
I gotta say the Rogan interview was really good. I was hoping for some batshit crazy moments but Trump was totally calm and was very charming. I just love the seeth that’s been going on lately.
 
. Rogan is talking about how he's tried to reason it out and steel man it and think of rational explanations
Rogan won't even let you use phones in his comedy clubs but will buy into the voter ID bullshit?
who was born to luxury absolutely unfathomable to you or me and lived most of his life on easy mode
While he was "born to luxury" it didn't go as far back then. The problem with being the richest family in Queens is that you still live in queens.

Even the military academy he went to, while it was still a private school it was mostly the "upper-middle" class if that. Same with Trump going to college, he didn't get to hobknob with the rich until he was in his 30s. The company mostly dealt with low income people and had to suffer the troubles of catering to that demo, until Trump tried to revitalize New York City.

You heard this a bit more in 2016 but trump was the landlord and relatively local to low income housing in Queens and was quite a fan of that new turnstyle music everyone seemed to be making around his businesses.
Was Beyonce unable to take five minutes to sing, considering she's supposed to be such a strong backer of the campaign?
I assumed the campaign fucked up. Apparently this was the most Beyonce talked in public in almost a decade, she's as socially anxious as Kamala and presumably can handle herself as well. She'd have loved to sing away those minutes but I guess the rights didn't clear by the time she got on stage. She sang for Hilary
 
In many ways I do have sympathy for the Democrat situation.
Don't, they did this to themselves. In non-clown or lesser clown world they would have had an open primary, and somebody like RFK jr. or Tulsi would be at the top of the ticket. Not Harris, not Walz. Even someone like Gavin Newsom would have been a far better candidate to motivate people to vote for the Democrats. At every chance to make the smart move, the democrats did the opposite. They shot themselves in the head. All this is just the death spasms of their corpse.
 
You miss the point. The gas car burned the gallon of gas as well as the 40 miles worth of electricity it took to refine it. You can cut out the middleman.
I don't think it's a clear cut comparison. Correct me if I am wrong, but there is a lot to refining crude oil/natual gas and the gasoline we put into engines is just one of many byproducts in the process right? The energy expended to create the gasoline isn't solely for the gasoline and it is going to be produced anyway as a part of the larger refining process. So by using combustion engines it isn't so much doubling our energy usage though redundant logistics, but rather it's us using the whole buffalo of petroleum refinement.
 
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I gotta say the Rogan interview was really good. I was hoping for some batshit crazy moments but Trump was totally calm and was very charming. I just love the seeth that’s been going on lately.
Yep I had in the background wasn't paying close attention to it but the only real conspiracy talk was ALIENS and Trump just calmly talked about talking to distinguished pilots who say they've seen some shit. Which I've heard of before and I WANT TO BELIEVE!

I think the Mainstream media is going to just largely ignore the interview partially out of jealously [No stalker child, we are not irrelevant you must conduct media interviews and specials with us. Enjoy prison.] But also because they played their hand fully with the whole Hitler's General thing which isn't hitting anyone without Trump saying it on audio. They do not want to go back to arguing about tariffs and the legacy of Robert E Lee.
 
Yep I had in the background wasn't paying close attention to it but the only real conspiracy talk was ALIENS and Trump just calmly talked about talking to distinguished pilots who say they've seen some shit. Which I've heard of before and I WANT TO BELIEVE!

I think the Mainstream media is going to just largely ignore the interview partially out of jealously [No stalker child, we are not irrelevant you must conduct media interviews and specials with us. Enjoy prison.] But also because they played their hand fully with the whole Hitler's General thing which isn't hitting anyone without Trump saying it on audio. They do not want to go back to arguing about tariffs and the legacy of Robert E Lee.
I think they are going to point at Trump mixing up the name of Lincoln's dead son as an example of his mental faculties slipping.
 
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