Diseased Rowling Derangement Syndrome - "TERF/Woke Author Bad!!1"

C.S. Lewis did somewhat ruin entire generations of fantasy writers.
I have to disagree with this. When you look at the world of fantasy, you almost never see people copying Lewis and his heavy use of multi-layered allegory, or even blindly aping the surface-level "cobbled together" appearance of the Narniad. Rather, you see a thousand and one Tolkien rip-offs, which imitate only the superficial qualities of his ideas, and that are about as creative as bad fanfiction. Lewis is often, wrongly, perceived as the childish amateur in comparison to Tolkien, because they're both lumped into the "fantasy" genre, despite the fact they were actually writing different genres; Tolkien was writing a heroic epic akin to Beowulf, while Lewis was writing a fairy story in the spirit, if not the structure, of mediaeval English epics such as The Faerie Queene. The comparison falls apart completely when you look at the full body of work of both authors. Lewis was a lover of layered symbolism and hidden meaning in both what he wrote and what he studied, whereas Tolkien put everything in front of the reader. They are different people, whose authorial intentions are as far apart as those between Harry Potter and Game of Thrones, both of which are also lumped under "fantasy", yet nobody would even pretend were in the same category.

A number of people have tried to write take-thats and deconstructions of the Narniad, some of which have apparently been quite good, but they all suffer the same problem of motivation and misunderstanding intent; they see the superficially spiritual elements of the Narnia books and are written to undermine and deconstruct those elements, but they miss the underlying themes and structure of the series, so they end up as superficial as the thing the authors believe they're trying to criticise. They also, in every case, display the underlying resentment of the author, which degrades the experience and makes them rather negative to read.

Also, Narnia isn't an Isekai.
 
Also, Narnia isn't an Isekai.
Bruh. Do you have this opinion because the other world was entirely in the kids heads? I could see that being a valid opinion. I do agree that Rowling didn't really try to copy Lewis' style because there is pretty much no allegory involved in her writing but the religious trappings are all there.
 
Bruh. Do you have this opinion because the other world was entirely in the kids heads? I could see that being a valid opinion.
Isekai is a Japanese genre with a particular set of tropes and features, rooted in Japanese culture, that largely don't apply to the Narniad, except in such a superficial and generic way that the term would also encompass Gulliver's Travels, The Divine Comedy, The Odyssey, and possibly even The Travels of Marco Polo. It'd be like calling King Kong a kaiju movie.
 
It'd be like calling King Kong a kaiju movie.
King Kong predates the kaiju genre by two decades but fits all of the criteria. The criteria are loose, with no specific height requirements. But considered necessary are that the beast in question is a large monster of mysterious and possibly supernatural origin that narratively if not literally exist to fulfill a purpose. These mysterious creatures who come from distant places are portrayed as forces of nature with extreme power. This example is stupid because King Kong fits the whole definition of Kaiju. Mostly because the concept of a Kaiju is purposefully loose to encourage creativity. On top of this he's starred in Kaiju films.

Anyways. I feel like your long pseudo-intellectual rants belong somewhere like reddit. You might find more of your kind there who will spend endless hours debating the finer points of nerd shit.

You want my honest opinion? Dragon Ball is a magic girl anime.
 
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Isekai is a Japanese genre with a particular set of tropes and features, rooted in Japanese culture, that largely don't apply to the Narniad, except in such a superficial and generic way that the term would also encompass Gulliver's Travels, The Divine Comedy, The Odyssey, and possibly even The Travels of Marco Polo. It'd be like calling King Kong a kaiju movie.
Isekai just means 'other world'. It can be applied to anything that fits that criteria, it's not unique to Japan or anything, they were just the first to coin a term for such a thing.
There's tons of western media that can be classified as it, since the only criteria is the main character is taken/reincarnated/transported etc into another world. Alice in Wonderland is an Isekai, Space Jam, Wizard of Oz, the Jumanji with the Rock and so on.
 
I've asked chatgpt 4o if Jesus Christ is isekai:

I think it's interesting:
That's an intriguing perspective! If we think of "isekai" broadly as a narrative where a central figure is transported from one world or realm to another to fulfill a unique purpose or mission, then, conceptually, the story of Jesus could indeed share certain isekai-like elements.

In Christian tradition, Jesus comes from a divine realm or "heaven" to the human world, bringing with him unique powers and wisdom from this otherworldly source. His life on Earth, with teachings, miracles, and sacrifices, has a clear mission of transformation and salvation, which is a hallmark of many isekai stories where protagonists impact their new world in significant ways.

Like many isekai characters, Jesus also faces trials, experiences rejection and suffering, and ultimately undergoes a profound transformation (death and resurrection) that affects the world he entered. This element of sacrifice and return to a different realm is also a theme seen in some isekai narratives.

Of course, isekai is largely a modern fantasy genre meant for entertainment, while the story of Jesus is a spiritual and religious narrative with deep historical and theological significance. Still, it's fascinating to see how the archetype of a "world-crossing" hero can appear across cultures and genres. So, while the story of Jesus isn't typically labeled isekai, it does share structural similarities with the genre's core themes.
 
Isekai just means 'other world'. It can be applied to anything that fits that criteria, it's not unique to Japan or anything, they were just the first to coin a term for such a thing.
There's tons of western media that can be classified as it, since the only criteria is the main character is taken/reincarnated/transported etc into another world. Alice in Wonderland is an Isekai, Space Jam, Wizard of Oz, the Jumanji with the Rock and so on.

There seems to be a weird faction of Western nerds who insist on using Japanese terms for things, usually things that are not in the least bit exclusive to Japan or Japanese culture.

I still remember them on TV Tropes, genuinely trying to make 'nakama' happen, because "We don't have a word for it in English."

Um, yeah, we do, you fucking weeaboo faggot. 'Friends'. You'd know that if you had any.

'Isekai' can get fucked.
 
There seems to be a weird faction of Western nerds who insist on using Japanese terms for things, usually things that are not in the least bit exclusive to Japan or Japanese culture.

I still remember them on TV Tropes, genuinely trying to make 'nakama' happen, because "We don't have a word for it in English."

Um, yeah, we do, you fucking weeaboo faggot. 'Friends'. You'd know that if you had any.

'Isekai' can get fucked.
Yeah, I actually miss the mid-2000s where we just made up words to fill in the gaps left by Japanese. Nowadays we fellate their fucking culture so much that people throw hissy fits if you aren't sprinkling anime lingo into every other sentence.
 
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