TGWTG Nostalgia Chick / Lindsay Ellis / TheDudette - aka Hotdogs in face girl

In other news, I checked Lindsay's Bluesky. No updates on book 4. However; Lindsay appears to be working on a Nebula video about Green Day/protest music, and potentially something on the Little Mermaid?

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The Little Mermaid post I highlighted is funny, considering Lindsay thinks Jews eat babies.
I find it funny she’s doing a video on Green Day and protest music, considering she already did a video on that, and imo completely missed the mark on American Idiot, an album I hold dear to my heart from a band I hold dear to my heart. And she’s doing The Little Mermaid, which she also did on her channel and as Nostalgia Chick.

Unless she’s building a backlog on Nebula, I’m not sure what else Lindsay could say about these topics.
 
I find it funny she’s doing a video on Green Day and protest music, considering she already did a video on that, and imo completely missed the mark on American Idiot, an album I hold dear to my heart from a band I hold dear to my heart. And she’s doing The Little Mermaid, which she also did on her channel and as Nostalgia Chick.

Unless she’s building a backlog on Nebula, I’m not sure what else Lindsay could say about these topics.

True. However, she didn't hate on Jews Israel when she made her prior video essays.

I'm joking, but not really. On Bluesky, when discussing her protest music/Green Day video (I think it's about their new album, Saviors?) Lindsay referenced Macklemore (whose lead singer once dressed as a Jewish merchant)'s Gaza War/Anti-Israel protest song. Also, apparently on Green Day's recent tour they've been calling for a ceasefire in Gaza (?) So presumably the war she'll be referencing is the war in Gaza.

If Lindsay were smart, she'd just make Youtube videos about normal toddler mom pop culture intrusive thoughts, like "Where the hell is Ryder's parents on Paw Patrol? Are they dead? Was there a war? Where did all the able-bodied men in the Paw Patrol-universe go, that municipal services like Firefighters & EMTs have been replaced entirely by dogs specifically bred to be sentient and perform said tasks? The only time we see human cops/firefighters/emergency service providers is when they visit Adventure City in the Paw Patrol movie - & clearly there wasn't that many of them, bringing the topic back to 'where did all the abled-bodied men go?'" No one gives af about psuedo-intellectual pop culture hot takes, that's why Nebula is tanking (uh, no pun intended) . Meanwhile, all those film theory channels talking about Spongebob and FNAF are like, Youtube's top pop culture discussion channels.
 
So I had messaged a bunch of the Tumblr people who were claiming Lindsay got herself institutionalized, and one of them finally got back to me, with proof! The gossip got the year wrong, (2018 instead of 2016) but everything else appears to be true. She was canceled for making crass jokes about White Genocide, and was subsequently institutionalized.

Straight from Lindsay's mouth, in this ted-talk style panel she gave in a convention for social media influencers (wow that sounds like the most insufferable convention ever). At around the 12:00 mark:
"these people take everything literally" - Could have said this without any context and 99% of people would assume it was about the left.
"sex over 60" - Does she not realize ads are personalized?
"what the threat was" - What threats? She literally says she was getting threats and then doesn't show any. Did I miss them?
"people saw me cry in hotel lobbies" - Over tweets!?
"It harmed my marriage" - Yeah, I can see how waking up one day and realizing your spouse is a thinned-skinned asshole would cause issues.
"lost several friendships" - This is just pathetic.
"institutionalized" - Over tweets... This person is a joke.
"this isn't the first time" - Lmao. She admits she's already been through stuff like this and still had a self-induced meltdown. A literal snowflake.
"I'm on more medication" - God, who could have seen that coming!

Why does she look like crap? Doesn't sound like she was canceled for it. Sounds more like she got a little push back and had a complete self-induced meltdown. Over half an hour of her going "I put myself in an echo chamber and the moment I left it I had a meltdown." I see why she drinks so much, she has exactly zero self respect, and thought crying to an audience was a good idea.

Anyway, Lindsay's sudden increase in Nebula video essay output makes me suspect she was dropped by her publisher.
She wasn't dropped. She was given the standard industry wide three-book contract every writer gets. St. Martin gave her at a minimum the standard amount of support anyone else trying to make it as a writer gets. She failed to deliver.
 
Nice find about Boozy Lindsay being institutionalized. She had a meltdown because she is the very definition of living life on easy mode and this was the first time she had to deal with repercussions of her own actions. She also knew that when she wanted people canceled that it meant depriving people of their livelihood so when that was starting to get geared up for her, she knew what could happen, based on what she wanted for others.
She wasn't dropped. She was given the standard industry wide three-book contract every writer gets. St. Martin gave her at a minimum the standard amount of support anyone else trying to make it as a writer gets. She failed to deliver.
Yep, each side fulfilled their end of the contract and there was nothing further. Looks like her push to get a contract for two more books to be published failed and is now back making online videos. Which isn’t bad considering how much money she makes but she will never achieve her dream goal of being a respected media critic and author. She will always be best known for hot dogs slowly hitting her face.
 
Does anyone know wtf they're talking about on Tumblr? Is this something "diet Nazis" made up, or did she once make a Twitter-alt account "oopsies"? (Which, I mean, wouldn't shock me - Lindsay seems like the sorta Neo Nazi 'tard who'd secretly be railing against "teh Jewz" on Twitter). A lot of people on Tumblr are insisting it happened/said they always knew Lindsay was racist because of it.
Bass Lindsey I fully support her taking all of the leftist money and having them run in circles Lindsey has always been our girl hail Lindsey hail our people hail victory.
Lindsey is nazball gang
 
Racism is inherent in human nature. The great thing about this site is that antisemites and Islamophobes speak freely without cancellation. Turning this into the "Hotdog meme girl is secretly the she-wolf of the SS" thread feels like a derailment. Mentioning it once or twice is fine, but is it enough to make one a lolcow? Half of this site would probably have to be classified lolcows if you included everyone who thinks Israel is America's greatest liability. Lindsay being a Neo-Nazi Klanswoman wouldn't change what we already know about her, which is that she hates her job. She never liked being Nostalgia Critic's sidekick and most likely sees her far left fanbase as a bunch of spergs. I get politician vibes from her whenever she occasionally lets slip the mask and reveals the true phantom behind the content creator. Would it change your opinion of Nixon if you knew he believed Israel was a threat to democracy?

There are many reasons why Lindsay is a lolcow. Being racist, sexist, and homophobic, isn't really one of them. You could make the argument that she's a hypocrite. I see her as a grifter who used Channel Awesome to kickstart her solo career. Doug Walker is the Bill Clinton to Lindsay's Hillary. Including all the accusations of inappropriate behavior, behind the scenes drama, alleged cover ups of pedophiles. Maybe the JewWario experience reinforced some antisemitism. It did leave a permanent stain on the whole channel. Around the same time, before the release of change the channel, when JW an heroed and Spoony spiraled, when Lindsay shamelessly grifted to the left, and Doug kept padding out his reviews with long unfunny skits, making me nostalgic for the old Youtube and its 10 minute vid limit. That's when I stopped following CA. I don't think I've watched any content from former CA creators since 2016.

Aren't some of Lindsay's friends Jewish? I guess we wont know for sure unless we did a full Nazi trace of their ancestry. She was on friendly terms with the Jewess of Feminist Frequency, Sargon's unrequited lust, Ms Anita Sarkeesian. You can still be friends with Jews and be anti-Israel. It's not mutually exclusive.
 
Neo-Nazi Klanswoman wouldn't change what we already know about her, which is that she hates her job. She never liked being Nostalgia Critic's sidekick and most likely sees her far left fanbase as a bunch of spergs. I get politician vibes from her whenever she occasionally lets slip the mask and reveals the true phantom behind the content creator. Would it change your opinion of Nixon if you knew he believed Israel was a threat to democracy?
not at all I just think it's really funny that these people come to the exact same conclusions about Jews but only they've spent about a decade now screaming about how Donald Trump is literally encouraging people to become literally Hitler and then turn around and sound just as on hinged about the Jews as the neo-nazis they were supposedly defending against .
I thought they were supposed to be the radical from the alt-right not encouraging people to be anti-semitic in a different way.


Also the right wing critique of Jewish power was always more substance based than emotional base I don't care the Jews of the state of Israel exist I care that they lobby my government and a hypocritical *****
Aren't some of Lindsay's friends Jewish? I guess we wont know for sure unless we did a full Nazi trace of their ancestry. She was on friendly terms with the Jewess of Feminist Frequency, Sargon's unrequited lust, Ms Anita Sarkeesian. You can still be friends with Jews and be anti-Israel. It's not mutually exclusive.
Anita is Armenian if I'm not mistaken awesome most left wing critiques of Israel are literally it's an apartheid state which it's not Arabs have full citizenship
leftist critique of Israel really indistinguishable most of the time from straight up national socialist propaganda they also fully embrace violent Islamists there is no such thing as secular two state solution anymore those people have been long dead and even Yasser Arafat aligned himself with national socialists in the 50s.


I just think it's really funny from a black propaganda perspective to say that Lindsay Ellis has always been a secret closeted national socialist because she would accuse other people of doing the exact same thing if they were right wing.
 
Aren't some of Lindsay's friends Jewish? I guess we wont know for sure unless we did a full Nazi trace of their ancestry. She was on friendly terms with the Jewess of Feminist Frequency, Sargon's unrequited lust, Ms Anita Sarkeesian. You can still be friends with Jews and be anti-Israel. It's not mutually exclusive.
...except this isn't about Lindsay criticizing the state Israel. This is about her writing a book series full of 1488-style antisemitic dog whistles and references to historic blood libel (for example, the first book has a scene that implied Medieval Jews infected goyim with the bubonic plague). The villains of the series are literally ancient underground David Icke reptoids that consume Catholic children, not to mention all the Jewish characters in the book seem to inexplicably have a rapport with said baby munching reptilians. Also, this is a book series that she described in an interview as taking place in a world "where conspiracy theories have been proven to be true". & well, what's the #1 conspiracy theory in the world? Exactly. She hates Jews. & she probably hates black people too, she put 13/52 in there (no joke, it showed up at one point when the character was doing a math problem 🤣. Do the math, 13/52? Get it?)

& being friends with Jewish leftists isn't proof someone isn't antisemitic; Hasan was friends with Ethan Klein, & how did that work out? Lindsay only associated with Anita Sarkeesian 'cause she was trying to clout chase off Anita's coverage of Gamergate.

I just think it's really funny from a black propaganda perspective to say that Lindsay Ellis has always been a secret closeted national socialist because she would accuse other people of doing the exact same thing if they were right wing.

Well, In a series of tweets from 2017 Lindsay accused Passover of being a religious celebration of baby genocide (she framed it as "I just hate the movie The Prince of Egypt") but she made said post during the week of Passover, so...yeah. She's probably been antisemitic for awhile (perhaps the cause of her fallout with the Matilda actress?) However, Lindsay probably went full mask off after her 2021 cancelation. She blamed "Diet Nazi" minorities for canceling her. Most notably, a Native American writer/activist Lindsay once plagiarized (Lindsay made a monetized video about an article the Native American woman had written, but didn't credit her or cite sources). When the Native American writer asked Lindsay to credit her work in the video, Lindsay cyberbullied the woman.
 
Well, In a series of tweets from 2017 Lindsay accused Passover of being a religious celebration of baby genocide (she framed it as "I just hate the movie The Prince of Egypt") but she made said post during the week of Passover, so...yeah. She's probably been antisemitic for awhile (perhaps the cause of her fallout with the Matilda actress?) However, Lindsay probably went full mask off after her 2021 cancelation. She blamed "Diet Nazi" minorities for canceling her. Most notably, a Native American writer/activist Lindsay once plagiarized (Lindsay made a monetized video about an article the Native American woman had written, but didn't credit her or cite sources). When the Native American writer asked Lindsay to credit her work in the video, Lindsay cyberbullied the woman.
Would you plagiarise someone where is the uh five hour takedown video from H bomber guy proving my point about that whole incident that it was just an attack in James summerton because he asked for some of that sweet nebula cash justice for James
 
I just find the idea that Lindsay Ellis is actually a deluded conspiracy-believing racist, exactly the kind of things she accuses her political enemies of being, extremely poetic and amusing. Horseshoe theory in play once again.
I’m going for Hanlon’s Razor personally. All this talk of conspiracy seems more like Lindsay trying to say something about the world but is fumbling the message and trying to show that she knows more about the world than what she really does.
 
I’m going for Hanlon’s Razor personally. All this talk of conspiracy seems more like Lindsay trying to say something about the world but is fumbling the message and trying to show that she knows more about the world than what she really does.
I agree. She’s never proven herself to be more than a midwit and the idea of her trying to insert secret antisemitic theories that she learned from her klanpa is funny to consider but unrealistic. Her inserting lukewarm 105 IQ takes because that’s the best she can do is far more realistic.
 
I find it funny she’s doing a video on Green Day and protest music, considering she already did a video on that, and imo completely missed the mark on American Idiot, an album I hold dear to my heart from a band I hold dear to my heart. And she’s doing The Little Mermaid, which she also did on her channel and as Nostalgia Chick.

Unless she’s building a backlog on Nebula, I’m not sure what else Lindsay could say about these topics.
Lindsay rehashing old ideas? Shocking!
 
How long until she makes a Lord of the Rings video for Nebula?
She already did.

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She wasn't dropped. She was given the standard industry wide three-book contract every writer gets. St. Martin gave her at a minimum the standard amount of support anyone else trying to make it as a writer gets. She failed to deliver.
It's difficult for non-industry insiders to get accurate figures on book sales. BookScan is probably the best resource, but you usually have to be affiliated with a publisher in order to have a login, and if I recall correctly, it only tallies print sales.

Probably the most useful metric available to industry outsiders would be the number of ratings the books have received on platforms such as Amazon and Goodreads, and the drop off from books #1 to #2 to #3 is very stark indeed:
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Between both platforms, the second book has between a quarter and a fifth of the engagement of the first book, and the third has about a fifth of the engagement of the second. I can't see the same publisher wanting to gamble on a fourth.
 
It's difficult for non-industry insiders to get accurate figures on book sales. BookScan is probably the best resource, but you usually have to be affiliated with a publisher in order to have a login, and if I recall correctly, it only tallies print sales.
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Between both platforms, the second book has between a quarter and a fifth of the engagement of the first book, and the third has about a fifth of the engagement of the second. I can't see the same publisher wanting to gamble on a fourth.
The more I researched Lindsay last week, the more I came to agree with the theory proposed on this thread a few years ago, arguing that her "cancelation" was merely a calculated attempt by Lindsay to manipulate her simp-cuck soyboy fanbase to purchase her flogging second book. To add to said theory, I believe it was also a desperate attempt to use all-powerful "white woman tears" to cover-up/mitigate legitimate criticism she receiving on Twitter from POC (criticism that started being lodged before her Raya critique cancelation).

In particular, Twitter criticism resulting from a prominent Native American activist/writer finally calling out Lindsay for the time Lindsay wholesale plagiarized her article to make a monetized video (Lindsay made the monetized video a few months after said Native American woman's article was published in a major newspaper - so Lindsay's video was extra sus), than Lindsay cyberbullied said writter when she made the sin of asking Lindsay for proper academic credit at the end of her video. Lindsay's plagiarization of a Native American woman's work wasn't taken too well by Twitter Leftist Breadtube fans, presumably because a rich white woman stealing content from marginalized Native American writer is quite the transgression on the "lefty victim" ranking chart.

Also, around the exact same time the antisemitisms in Lindsay's book started to make their way around Twitter (quite a few of the "Diet Nazis" she doxxed in her "mask off" video were Jewish people. Hm...) In particular, Lindsay got into it with a Jewish Axiom's End reader who asked Lindsay why she purposely wrote a prominent Jewish character in her series (Sol) as an evil abusive rape-y asshole with nebulous deepstate/CIA/Mossad connections. Lindsay was all "how dare you! I wasn't being antisemitic. Jewish men can be jerks too! I had sensitivity readers. You're probably just another gamergate diet-nazi". (Sadly this interaction was half-lost when Lindsay deleted Twitter). Lindsay's interaction led to other Jewish Breadtube twitter users being like "hey, wait, remember that one time Lindsay implied Jews celebrate Moses slaughtering babies at Passover or whatever? It kinda just seems like Lindsay hates Jews".

I’m going for Hanlon’s Razor personally. All this talk of conspiracy seems more like Lindsay trying to say something about the world but is fumbling the message and trying to show that she knows more about the world than what she really does.

While Hanlon's razor absolutely would make sense, considering Lindsay is dumb as fucking rocks - I just can't help have a nagging feeling there's more to Lindsay's problematic hot takes/all the seemingly racist & antisemitic plot points in her book series. Surely she learned such rhetoric from somewhere.

For example, the only people who've I've ever interacted with that openly questioned the official number of Jewish Holocaust victims while simultaneously implying Israel was using the memory of the Holocaust to emotionally manipulate Western powers into supporting Zionism & allowing Israel to slaughter innocent Muslims in the Middle East in a quest to colonize the entire region....were, well, White Supremacist Neo Nazis (tankies hate Israel, but they generally aren't Holocaust truthers). Also, the only people I ever interacted with who openly argued "Native Americans were vicious savages that benefited from European colonization" (an argument made in the Axiom's End trilogy) were....White Supremacist Neo Nazis.

Look, I'm not saying Lindsay has been a secret ghost-skin her entire career working behind enemy lines to empower the white race (that's ridiculous. A real White Supremacist Neo Nazi would have ended up in the loony bin if they had to spend a significant amount of time pretending to be friends with stupid tankie breadtubers oh wait...) - it's just Lindsay deserves a serious side eye when compared to her fellow dumb af Nebula Breadtube tankies.

Or, to use an example currently playing out on Twitch. Is Hasan's pet gremlin overfed after midnight Hasan orbiter Fr0gan dumb? Yes - she's unequivocally the dumbest streamer that ever streamed on Twitch - & I'm pretty sure Sneako once stated he thought the Earth could be flat & surrounded by an ice ring that holds in all the ocean water. But does Hanlon's Razor explain why Fr0gan lists Jewish creators as "Sabra Lovers"? No. Fr0gan is both dumb & a virulent antisemite.

Probably the most useful metric available to industry outsiders would be the number of ratings the books have received on platforms such as Amazon and Goodreads, and the drop off from books #1 to #2 to #3 is very stark indeed:

On the topic of Lindsay's Goodreads reviews: one of her reviewers completely misinterpreted all the 1488-style antisemitic dogwhistles in book #2, & actually assumed Cora's Muslim Iranian spy fuckbuddy who stole classified C.I.A. documents to save suspected Al Queda terrorists from being waterboarded by "advanced interrogation specialists" in Guatonamo Bay (i.e. Cora's Muslim boyfriend who constantly mansplains to the audience about the Zionists babyeating Jewish reptoids secretly puppeteering major world governments & shitstirring world conflicts, in case readers are too naive and/or dense to pick up on the obvious 1488-style dogwhistles)...was a Jew 🤣. Said reader was pissed the characters kept going of on random tangents about Jews (along with being pissed about the whole "Ampersand is a trans-man so no PIV sex with psychic space chicken boyfriend since he has no dick") and left this scathing review:

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...I can see why the Persian Muslim sensitivity reader (whose critique Lindsay bragged about ignoring) had a problem with Truth of the Divine. The only thing Truth of the Divine's deuteragonist Muslim character does in said book is commit a high crime against the United States government (i.e. stealing & releasing classified C.I.A. National Security documents) actively petitioned the American mainstream media to support suspected Al Queda terrorists imprisoned in Guantanamo Bay because "poor brown men being waterboarded", had poorly-written unsafe sex with an insufferable BPD-afflicted danger-haired white chick, 'sperged antisemitic rhetoric every other sentence, & finally got his brains blown out by Reptoid Jew-controlled Neo Nazis.

The idea that an American Muslim refugee from a war torn Middle Eastern country who came to the United States as a small child is a traitor ticking time-bomb that willingly sides with/sympathizes with radical Islamic terrorists that wish to harm American citizens is based generally considered Islamophobic. To be honest, I'm a bit shocked Lindsay didn't get herself in trouble with the Muslim-ADL equivalent organization CAIR. Especially considering Lindsay bragged about ignoring the input of a Muslim sensitivity reader - so it's not like Lindsay can go "oopsies, I didn't know making my Muslim character sympathize with Al Qaeda & inexplicably do literal treason would hurt sand ni....Muslim people's feelings."
 
It's difficult for non-industry insiders to get accurate figures on book sales. BookScan is probably the best resource, but you usually have to be affiliated with a publisher in order to have a login, and if I recall correctly, it only tallies print sales.

Probably the most useful metric available to industry outsiders would be the number of ratings the books have received on platforms such as Amazon and Goodreads, and the drop off from books #1 to #2 to #3 is very stark indeed:
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Between both platforms, the second book has between a quarter and a fifth of the engagement of the first book, and the third has about a fifth of the engagement of the second. I can't see the same publisher wanting to gamble on a fourth.

I already provided the bookscan numbers. The drops between books were actually not far off from that.

Here we are years later, and damn near half her total sales are still from the first week of book one's release.
 
Probably the most useful metric available to industry outsiders would be the number of ratings the books have received on platforms such as Amazon and Goodreads, and the drop off from books #1 to #2 to #3 is very stark indeed:

$4.99 for ebooks of book 1 and book 2... woof.

I decided to take a look at Iron Widow's ebook price for a comparison. It was published the same year as Axiom's End, and the author is a lolcow in her own right.

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The difference here is that Xiran didn't see promoting her own work as beneath her, and did it shamelessly. Also, she is just a better writer than Lindsay.
 
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