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Well I...did call it? I guess O9A ink is a bit better than NAMBLA ink...or is it tho. I honestly don't even know the answer to that one.
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Missed this and got interested in finding out. Nah, checked the BOP's website to find out. He was released on 12/20/2022. Which for federal prisoners, most never serve their full sentence. You only serve the full sentence if you're a violent retard in prison. Most serve between 50%-80% of their sentence generally. Sometimes even less of a percentage if you get a long sentence and didn't do things like murder someone or what not. In this guy's case, seems he served less than 2 years. So half his sentence, which to be fair seems pretty standard for a non-violent convict in federal prison with a sob story and rich parents to back him up to the parole board.
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You can say the guy is kind of an asshole but when you really look at it in the broad scheme of things, this was a real nothingburger of a "crime." If he'd done the same shit but for antifag reasons instead of being a "Nazi," he probably wouldn't have done any time at all.
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Woman sentenced to 18 years for plotting with neo-Nazi leader to attack Baltimore's power grid
A Maryland woman who’s held white supremacist views for decades and recently conspired with a neo-Nazi leader to plan an attack on Baltimore’s power grid was sentenced Wednesday to 18 years in prison for her role in the plot.The high-profile case ultimately came to focus on the defendant’s past trauma and her mental state as she struggled with addiction and embraced increasingly radical, racist views. Sarah Beth Clendaniel, 36, pleaded guilty to planning the attack in May.
Clendaniel was working with Brandon Russell, who co-founded a small, Florida-based neo-Nazi group, to plan a series of “sniper attacks” on Maryland electrical substations that could have caused significant damage to the regional power grid. It was meant to create chaos in the majority-Black city, according to federal prosecutors.
“It’s true, your honor, I do still hold National Socialist beliefs,” Clendaniel told the judge during her sentencing hearing Wednesday in Baltimore federal court, saying she adopted the ideology at age 13. She pledged to never again act on those beliefs.
“I know there’s a line there that I can’t cross,” she said.
U.S. District Judge James Bredar said he wanted to believe that Clendaniel wouldn’t have actually carried out the plot, which he called “extreme in every respect.”
“I think that’s a huge question, but who can take that risk?” he said, before sentencing her to 18 years in federal prison — the sentence prosecutors had recommended — and lifetime supervision upon release.
In explaining his decision, Bredar noted new information from prosecutors that Clendaniel had recently been placing jail calls to a white supremacist leader in California. Those calls show Clendaniel was unrepentant and undeterred, prosecutors said.
“This is something that is very much a part of her,” Assistant U.S. Attorney Kathleen O’Connell Gavin said during the hearing.
Clendaniel was charged last year along with Russell, a Florida resident who co-founded the group Atomwaffen Division. His case hasn’t gone to trial yet. Russell previously served five years in prison after pleading guilty to explosives charges that stemmed from a deadly shooting at an apartment that he shared with Atomwaffen’s other founder.
Clendaniel and Russell began exchanging letters around 2018 while they were incarcerated in different facilities. They developed a romantic relationship that continued after they were released from prison, court records show.
Clendaniel pleaded guilty in May to two counts: conspiracy to damage electrical facilities and being a felon in possession of a firearm.
Much of Clendaniel’s sentencing hearing focused on how her life may have been shaped by the severe domestic abuse and neglect she endured as a child and teenager. She spent some of her childhood living on the streets, and her struggles with addiction started at an early age, according to court testimony.
Those experiences made her acutely vulnerable to the influence of people like Russell and other white supremacist leaders, her public defender Sedira Banan argued. But Clendaniel had spent decades harboring racist views without ever acting on them.
“It’s a lot of talk,” Banan said, asking the court to impose a 10-year sentence. “That’s what it amounts to.”
In a letter to the court before sentencing, Clendaniel apologized for her actions and said she had been struggling with severe mental and physical health problems at the time, including a diagnosis of kidney failure. Believing her days were numbered, Clendaniel said she was in “a very dark place.” She said she was struggling to get her life on track and provide for her children after coming home from prison.
“I felt like I needed to do something to make up for my shameful life of drugs, crime, addiction, and neglect of my children by going to prison,” she wrote. “My primary motivation for my plans … was because I wanted to help people to understand how fragile this modern world is.”
Clendaniel grew up in rural Cecil County, an overwhelmingly white, conservative enclave in the northeast corner of Maryland bordering both Delaware and Pennsylvania. Her criminal history includes a series of robberies she committed while using drugs, often targeting convenience stores in her hometown.
She was serving a sentence for a 2016 robbery when she began corresponding with Russell.
After being released from prison in 2020, she fell back into familiar patterns of addiction and embraced increasingly radical views, court records show. She spent hours on the phone with a confidential informant she met through Russell, discussing how she would obtain a gun and shoot at five electrical substations situated in a ring around Baltimore, according to prosecutors. She was arrested and charged in the power grid plot in February 2023.
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Some Canuck applied to join AWD Canada/Northern Order on school computer. Opsec? Fuck that we ball.
Wake up honey, New turkish AWD spinoff dropped
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Leafistan is not sending their best.
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That's like the fifth Turkish spinoff, what are they smoking over there?
Also, can anyone decently summarize the O9A books (and I mean as many books as necessary, at least the core ones like Hostia and Liber 333) for the benefit of the thread? I know the pdfs are online, but I don't want to end up with informants at my door trying to sell me a sawed off shotgun, don't want 8 billion trojans on my computer or, worst of all, have to personally sift through nonsense for hundreds of pages.
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I skimmed through them a while ago and it's just edgy garbage. Basically detailing how morals are weak and how the ultimate individuals live without morals. Along with the fact that to be a true revolutionary you must do the exact opposite of social norms. Things like being a pedophile, animal torturer, etc. AKA be the ultimate contrarian.
It's been a long while but this is what I remember. Of course the FBI themselves wrote a lot of these books excluding the original books written by David Myatt. Still, it's all edgy low IQ writings meant for useful idiots to either get honeypotted or do shit for the FBI to point to why they need more funding.
764, an O9A pedophile and animal torture ring, has a shit load of FBI informants running it. Something the FBI conveniently doesn't mention when talking about this group and why they need more money to stop it. Not trying to sound like a conspiracyfag here but still even some mainstream news outlets in the past have brought this up. It's called Strategy of Tension when security agencies purposefully make or allow threats themselves in order to justify further funding.
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This is why these nihilists are worse than actual, real Nazis. As the great Walter Sobchak said: "Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, at least it's an ethos."
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I'm not surprised that a siegetard tried to join AWD from a school computer. Considering the technological competence of zoomers, I bet this dumb faggot can't even drag a file into a folder.
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I said it in the TNO thread and I'll say it here; these whackos are so cartoonishly evil that it's impossible to ever write a fictional villain that's as nefarious. Meth smoking, child-abusing, human sacrificing, nuclear holocaust wishing satanic new-age, hippie (in some circles) accelerationist misanthropic self proclaimed vampires that openly worship Charles Manson and Hitler.
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Nihilist losers pop up in any radical movement. We saw this decades ago with leftists during the Cold War in the US who didn't actually believe in leftism, they were just losers that wanted to be the edgiest people on Earth. Now being a Nazi is the big bad thing. So these types just flock to that now.
This is pretty normal. Even the NSDAP had these types in it until Hitler killed them all during the Night of Long Knives for being a security threat and their days as useful idiots for him were outlived. Lenin also did this after he took power.
Ironically Ernst Rohm had a good quote on this. "All revolutions devour their own children.". Ironic as he himself was devoured as soon as his usefulness as an enforcer for Hitler ceased and him being in the closet and advocating civil war against the military to have eternal struggle became a massive security problem.
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Pagan Hermeticism mixed with Nietzschean morality and black metal aesthetics. A lot of edgy terminology that makes even the stuff that makes sense sound stupid, everything is either "dark" or "sinister". It's not hard to understand but hard to summarize, easier to read the base literature.
There are 2 planes of reality, the Causal world, the Acausal world, and the Abyss between them, in the acausal there are powerful primordial entities known as the dark gods, of which Satanas and Baphomet are the most well-known though even their depictions in the ONA pantheon are different from the mainstream, for example Baphomet is not a horned hermaphrodite but a "Great mother" type of a goddess. Gods are beyond the mundane concepts of good and evil but many if not all lean towards the "evil" side, because of how alien their manifestations are to everything humans see as "normal".
All life consists of acausal energy and all living beings are "nexions" between the two worlds, which means that through intense practice of self-improvement and communion with the dark gods people are capable of crossing the abyss, gaining superhuman abilities and also securing that after death their spirits would cross the abyss and live forever as dark immortals (spirits of the mundanes that are too weak so they end up consumed by the abyss and recycled or something like that). Besides generic occult stuff this process includes physical fitness, murder and insight roles, and in general it boils down to constantly overcoming yourself and staying out of the comfort zone.
There's no demiurge-type of God and the concept of human history is scientific evolutionism with a little bit of ancient aliens because it's believed that the human evolution is guided by the dark gods. History is divided into aeons each associated with a great civilization and a certain paradigm shift, we're in the end of the western aoen, the western civilization is currently in decline, poisoned by degenerate values, but the next aeon will be heralded by the incarnated Vindex which will bring on an intergalactic Imperium of superhumans.
Liber 333 isnt core literature because it's Tempel ov Blood and not ONA, so it's written by different people who are confirmed to be straight up pedophiles and federal agents so their sincerity is up to a debate, but the basic cosmology is the same, the biggest difference is the practice which is mostly focused on vampirism as well as self-mutilation and humiliation before the leader, which could be Joshua Sutter, any historical dictator, or their symbol Drill Sgt. Grey, a grey alien with a paddle, dressed up like Sgt Hartman (I am NOT making this up).
All life consists of acausal energy and all living beings are "nexions" between the two worlds, which means that through intense practice of self-improvement and communion with the dark gods people are capable of crossing the abyss, gaining superhuman abilities and also securing that after death their spirits would cross the abyss and live forever as dark immortals (spirits of the mundanes that are too weak so they end up consumed by the abyss and recycled or something like that). Besides generic occult stuff this process includes physical fitness, murder and insight roles, and in general it boils down to constantly overcoming yourself and staying out of the comfort zone.
There's no demiurge-type of God and the concept of human history is scientific evolutionism with a little bit of ancient aliens because it's believed that the human evolution is guided by the dark gods. History is divided into aeons each associated with a great civilization and a certain paradigm shift, we're in the end of the western aoen, the western civilization is currently in decline, poisoned by degenerate values, but the next aeon will be heralded by the incarnated Vindex which will bring on an intergalactic Imperium of superhumans.
Liber 333 isnt core literature because it's Tempel ov Blood and not ONA, so it's written by different people who are confirmed to be straight up pedophiles and federal agents so their sincerity is up to a debate, but the basic cosmology is the same, the biggest difference is the practice which is mostly focused on vampirism as well as self-mutilation and humiliation before the leader, which could be Joshua Sutter, any historical dictator, or their symbol Drill Sgt. Grey, a grey alien with a paddle, dressed up like Sgt Hartman (I am NOT making this up).
In what text? Pedophiles and rapists are described as candidates for human sacrifice, sadism described as a sign of "rotenness of character", and animal sacrifice is rejected in favor of human sacrifice.
These people weren't nihilists they tended to be very fanatical even if their actions didnt coincinde with whatever cause they were fanatics for. A nihilist would've either supported a political force that would benefit him directly (the german left was already pro-gay), or the force that is unlikely to win and doesnt have a centralized leader to kick them out, so anything can be done in it's name and you can use it to justify being antisocial forever (back then it was anarchism, today it's ironically neo-nazism). Rohm also wasn't "in the closet" because his homosexuality was so comonly known people actually joked about it and made carricatures.
I think ONA guys wouldnt mind being mass executed by their fuhrer, they believe that Vindex will probably not be in any way associated with satanism and they believe that humans are only useful as long as they can further the human evolution, and they are told that they'd go to satanic heaven anyway as accomplices of the dark messiah.
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Nietzsche was not a nihilist, though, and in fact, viewed it with alarm. It's too bad "God is dead" is his most known phrase, even though he neither considered that a good thing nor was it necessarily his own opinion. It was something a character said. Nietzsche said nihilism led morally basically to where we are now, and that's a BAD thing.
It doesn't help that followers like Foucault led the whole train of thought off into a filthy degenerate gutter.
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A lot of these are similar to "Rapewaffen" in that they are all online (usually in telegram) and rarely materialize into IRL activity. And when they do it's usually harmless shit like graffiti and posters. European journalists and "anti extremism researchers" salivate over these groups while the average Turk hasn't even heard of them. Ideologically they are Turkish ethnonationalists and Pan-Turkists who adopt the Nazi/AWD aesthetic because it looks cool and edgy, a LARP of a LARP.
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The shit that the FBI wrote up through Joshua Sutter the FBI informant. Which he continues to write under various new publishing fronts such as Agony Points Press (until that got shut down after he was doxed yet again by anti-O9A accelerationists).
I'm aware just like any religious belief there are different sects. Such as there being O9A that are Myatt purists and reject the stuff the FBI injected in, while others reject Myatt entirely for their own shit. Typical religious autism to be honest. It's still all garbage regardless but still many O9A types still like Sutter's work and don't care about the FBI influence. They cope hard though citing how Sutter used the FBI for O9A gains and that the only people he snitched on where Christians or something. This cope recently fell apart when one of the heads of MKY (a O9A group that murders homeless people and grandmas) got snitched on by Sutter and busted for CP and terrorism lmao. Commander Butcher was his name iirc. Which lol.
The whole nazi terrorism issue in general is an overblown grift by security agencies and "experts". It's a non-issue when you look at the actual data. Which is these people are generally harmless retards who just fedpost online. Terrorism in general is just a big non-issue statistics wise but it's a scary thing for politics to parade around so politicians and other figures can get their pet projects done.
They're just useful idiots for the feds and friends to get more money and higher salaries as radical extremists usually are.
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ONA isn't "nihilist" either, it's literally a religious cult no matter how hard they cope about gods "just helping them to reach their own divinity", with their own set of values that are so important you're supposed to straight up kill people for them.
Okay then, I just consider it a separate thing from the main ONA corpus so I thought you found something by Myatt&co that advocated it. Actually even Sutter was wary of outright promoting pedophilia to the outsiders, he even mentioned something about sacrificing pedophiles in Liber 333 though he already had a very weird fixation on (not obviously sexual types of) child abuse. He goes full diddy in more internal writings though, Predator and False Prophet were already full of straight up BDSM lolicon art and difirambs for serial pedophiles (bro think he Peter Sotos, bro NOT him).
I can agree with them on some level. He did admit that no "real Satanist" would ever join his cult, and that all his followers are scum of the earth who are to be used and thrown under the bus as a form of culling.
Also the story of MKY is particularly funny, tldr that satanic US-based MKY is a LARP of a LARP of a LARP. And that Butcher guy was also not white, for a nazi cult ONA has a suspiciously small portion of white followers. In reality whiteness of Georgians is up to a debate but MKY was originally a Slavic nationalist org and most Russian nazis believe that they are sandniggers.
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Yeah not accusing David Myatt of being a pedophile or anything. He was just an autistic weirdo who's life is pretty funny. How people follow a guy who's beliefs switch up more than a political twitter user is beyond me.
I read some archives on Sutter's Agony Points Press. He just goes full pedophilia mode now writing fanfics detailing his self-insert raping little girls. Which to be fair, non-Satanist neo-nazis did the same shit. See David Lane's book "KD Rebel" which is just a Chris Chan quality tier fanfic of his self-insert banging pre-teen girls for Odin. Including a scene in the book where a young girl washes his hairy balls. If David Lane was alive today, he'd get his own thread on just how absurdly retarded his life story was. The amount of lolcows in the American neo-nazi movement is pretty funny to research on its own.
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Hostia is a book on Satanism. Hostia describes Traditional Satanism in depth and delves into some mechanics of the Acausal. Naos is a book purely based upon majick, although majick is not practiced by all of the O9A. The Black Book of Satan (Codex Saerus) is a really shitty guideline for running a Nexion. Codex Aristarchus gives an introduction to astral wampyrism, the mechanics and how to achieve astral flight. Scithain is a much more detailed look into the Drakon Covenant, the Outer Hebredies islands, and astral wampyrism.
Liber333 is not apart of the core of the O9A, however, the TempelovBlood did actively attract almost everyone interested in the O9A today. The O9A was almost completely dead with no members before the subversion of the Atomwaffen Divison. Liber333 is so much more attractive to Siegetards, because the TempelovBlood was a militant organisation. The TempelovBlood didn't larp as British men on the Yorkshire Moors or Shropshire, they larped as elite "predators", wanting to be a mix between the SS, the Gestapo, Gulag officers, MKUltra victims, vampires and the DPRK. Liber333 is probably the most important book to the O9A, despite it being completely shunned by so called amoral Traditional Satanists whom don't wish to be seen as amoral Traditional Satanists.
I've read a lot of these books numerous times, but I imagine that you won't, which is why I never went in depth about the details of these books, but for you, you should understand more now without getting confused about mechanics of the Acausal or majick. For further and easier reading, look at Warhammer40k Chaos, as it's more or less the exact same thing to the point where either David Myatt or the creator or Warhammer stole the other's ideas.