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This woman is my new political hero. Anyone know who she is? Now she's jamming to Eye of the Tiger (the female stranglehold on the playlist has been broken).
She looks like a desiccated JK Rowling.
> comedian no one has ever heard of tells a mean joke at Trump rally
Tony Hinchcliffe isn't a nobody. I'm sorta surprised he did a set at Trump's rally, though. He is known for roasting people.
 
It should be noted that these votes from people registered with political parties not how people actually voted, so it shows that among the voters in Michigan for example 48% of them are democrats, not that they voted democrat.
But what's the discrepancy between party affiliation and vote cast, usually?
 
In safe college town Ann Arbor MI yesterday, Stinky couldn't even get people to shout when told to. That was a weird moment of Stinky being able to silence a crowd, NPCs don't know how to react:

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Holy shit I thought that was a throwaway organic moment she did in one of her rallies a few weeks back, it was cringe but I didn't realize it was part of her scripted speeches at rallies. Who's idea was this? So retarded.
 
Hey can one of you cut this video out of the post? It is a good one of a lady getting arrested in PA for standing in line to vote. Plus her Mom is a friend and I want to keep a copy.


Ace comment section:
546 Val Biancaniello @luckyvalpal 14h
Stay in line and #Vote! They arrested me and I didn’t break any laws. I encouraged people to stay in line and vote because the Democrats were discouraging voters from in person voting today in Delaware County. In fact, the election worker told people in line to go to the Chester Heights satellite office because the line was shorter there. Do you know what happened when they got to the Chester Heights office to vote in person? They were told that they ran out of mib applications. This is voter suppression in Delaware County, Pennsylvania. I did nothing wrong except encourage people to stay in line and vote. So they arrested me. VOTE! #Trump #Trump2024 #Delco #Pennsylvania

DC_Draino @DC_Draino 14h
Josh Shapiro is a disgrace for arresting Trump supporters trying to vote early

Sorry for the request. I can't rip things for a while. I hope the content suffices as payment even if it was from yesterday.
 
Hey can one of you cut this video out of the post? It is a good one of a lady getting arrested in PA for standing in line to vote. Plus her Mom is a friend and I want to keep a copy.


Sorry for the request. I can't rip things for a while. I hope the content suffices as payment even if it was from yesterday.
It sounds like they’re going to arrest any open support of Trump as electioneering.
 

About a third of people have already voted.

Looking good in
  • Georgia 49% republican - 45% democrat
  • Arizona 42% rep - 35% dem
  • Nevada 40% rep - 35% dem
Not looking good in
  • Pennsylvania 59% dem - 31% rep
  • Michigan 48% dem - 41%
  • Wisconsin 36% den - 23% rep
This data is sourced from a data company known as "TargetSmart" and their "model of party affiliation". If you go on this company's about page and ctr-F "progressive", you'll see they're not exactly an unbiased source.
The website I've been using to analyze the early voting results is L2 data, which Yale apparently finds trustworthy enough to license.

SOUTH/WEST
Arizona - 42% Rep 36% Dem 16.1% Indie
Nevada - 38% Rep 36% Dem 19.9% Indie
Georgia - 42% Rep 42% Dem 15.9% Indie
North Carolina - 34% Rep 33% Dem 32% Indie

RUST BELT
Wisconsin - 50% Rep 32% Dem 18.1% Indie
Michigan - 41% Rep 53% Dem 6.3% Indie
Pennsylvania - 31% Rep 58% Dem 8.6% Indie

Keep in mind that this data is based on party registration and doesn't actually tell us which person was voted for; it doesn't take into account cross-party voting and it gives no indication as to how independents are voting.
 
I think it's because it's different and unique and because Trump is surging with Latinos and Hispanics

If they latched onto a joke about black people the general population wouldn't care because it's cliche, but no one talks about Puerto Ricans
I went Googling around for old jokes about Puerto Ricans, but as you might suspect modern search engines are useless for that, especially in the wake of the Trump thing.

I did find an interesting article from 2022 though, covering Latinos and voting patterns by their specific place of birth. The whole thing is worth reading if you aren't familiar with the topic.

This graph shows the potential "fallout" of RandomComedianEdgyJokeGate:

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Remember that's their proportion of Hispanic voters, not the general population. PR's are 14% of 12% nationally, or 1.6% overall. That's not nothing, but apply the usual voting turnout models and it starts getting down to a rounding error. (In Florida they're 27.5% of 20% statewide, or 5.5%, which is more significant.)

The article is a llittle too focused on Florida politics, but it gives this rundown of PRs:

After Hurricane Maria devastated the island in 2017, tens of thousands emigrated to the mainland, with at least one-third going to Florida to join the million Puerto Ricans already living there. Puerto Ricans might soon match Cuban Americans among the state’s eligible voters, though not yet in turnout.

Historically viewed as reliable supporters of Democrats, Florida’s Puerto Ricans have begun breaking old patterns. For example, many voted for Republican Rick Scott in his 2018 senatorial bid, a fact partly attributable to the multiple visits Scott made as governor to their hurricane-ravaged homeland.

In a 2019 survey of Puerto Rican likely 2020 voters in Florida, more than 90% said it would be important to their vote that a candidate offered “specific solutions for the economic recovery and well-being” of the island.

So Trump may not have many PR votes to lose, if they were already going Democratic. I'm not sure how many of them buy the media line about Trump abandoning PR after the hurricane, and how many listen when he tells about all the aid he sent that got stashed away in warehouses by corrupt officials. I also don't know if that is still a primary concern 5 years later, especially with how Covid era housing prices hit the state. I don't think anyone is doing serious voting bloc polling this year, everyone seems to be hyper focused on the other swing states.

Could their 5.5% bloc in Florida matter? Maybe, but Trump is currently up about 6% in FL and they've been early voting for 3 days. Trump had record gains in Hispanic votes generally in 2020, and looks to be repeating it in 2024. When Democrats did a post-mortem of 2020, they basically found they were losing Florida Hispanics as a trend (and coped that it could be better for Dems if they only just got more Dem Hispanics... somehow.)

TL;DR Between heavy Democratic support, island-specific policy concerns, and early voting, I'm not sure Trump had a lot of votes to lose over this outrage headline. That won't stop dickwads like CNN journos from trying to astroturf a "backlash", though.
 
This data is sourced from a data company known as "TargetSmart" and their "model of party affiliation". If you go on this company's about page and ctr-F "progressive", you'll see they're not exactly an unbiased source.
The website I've been using to analyze the early voting results is L2 data, which Yale apparently finds trustworthy enough to license.

SOUTH/WEST
Arizona - 42% Rep 36% Dem 16.1% Indie
Nevada - 38% Rep 36% Dem 19.9% Indie
Georgia - 42% Rep 42% Dem 15.9% Indie
North Carolina - 34% Rep 33% Dem 32% Indie

RUST BELT
Wisconsin - 50% Rep 32% Dem 18.1% Indie
Michigan - 41% Rep 53% Dem 6.3% Indie
Pennsylvania - 31% Rep 58% Dem 8.6% Indie

Keep in mind that this data is based on party registration and doesn't actually tell us which person was voted for; it doesn't take into account cross-party voting and it gives no indication as to how independents are voting.
It may not tell you who they voted for, but it gives a idea of what's happening. Pennsylvania is going to be tight as always. Everything else looks like a sweep
 
Zoro is now going on Rogan:

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I don't think it will matter electorally, but I'm looking forward to the regular entertainment value of it. Vance has the perfect personality to keep up and joke in a way that flows with Joe's style, no "weaving" like Trump does.
 
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