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Does your Chinese step-dad spit into your mouth while he chokes you?
He still thinks they're wonderful but has learned the hard way that few on the right love his vaccines as much as he does. If Biden didn't subsequently try to take ownership of his shitty and rushed vaccines to score points with mask fags, they could actually hit Trump pretty hard on it and it would be effective at demoralizing some voters on the right.
I don't think that issue would hit Trump that hard if they tried to attack him with it. While Trump is proud of his clot shot, the key difference between him and Biden is that Trump wanted it optional (which everyone on the right wanted it that way). Biden made it mandatory which alienated TONS of people by making them choose between not taking an experimental vax or losing their livelyhoods (which led to shortages in some industries). It also didn't help that the Biden Admin and the MSM fearmongered covid to an absurd degree and covering up the shots ineffectiveness and dangers (like the CDC playing fast and loose with what counts as a covid death and changing the definition of a vaccine when the shot didn't work).
 
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Is the step-dad being Chinese essential to the process and also why are you gay
 
It's not the only thing but in terms of hurting his chances in 2020, Trump completely failed to read the room on COVID vaccination. He still thinks they're wonderful but has learned the hard way that few on the right love his vaccines as much as he does. If Biden didn't subsequently try to take ownership of his shitty and rushed vaccines to score points with mask fags, they could actually hit Trump pretty hard on it and it would be effective at demoralizing some voters on the right.

While the emergency use authorization hadn't yet arrived by November 2020 and there weren't yet many horror stories, I think there's a very strong overlap between vaccine skepticism and republican voting, so Trump shoving this shit out there did not help his chances. Consider a hypothetical scenario where Trump used his executive powers to squish all forced maskfagging, bullshit lockdowns, prevent EUAs being issued and render future mandates illegal, things might've turned out differently.

I do find it interesting how the safety and effectiveness of these vaccines is such an untouchable subject that I haven't heard either side say anything about it. While a lot of people might think things have moved on, the pointless mandate lingers on for immigrant visas and nothing has really been done to stop history from repeating. It seems they would rather everyone just forget about it.
I think Trump teaming up with Kennedy (and promising to let him loose on HHS, FDA and all those others) is really all that needed to be said as to where he is on the covid shots
 
I actually appreciate how Trump disagrees with his base on the covid vax. It's frankly refreshing to see anyone not just endlessly capitulate to the average person or even their own fans. I'm so fucking sick of focus tested fake bullshit. I completely disagree with him on its overall success/usefulness, but it is true that the shot was seemingly a net positive for survival odds in the very fat and very old. The mandates were the biggest problem, which he failed to address/prevent. On the other hand, his cutting of the red tape allowing its approval is very much consistent with how he operated everywhere else, and had the result from the pharma companies been better, would have been heralded as a great success. Hell, even though I don't think mRNA shit worked this time, it does advance the tech which I do think could be useful in the future. It's a pretty sad state of affairs that the outrage machine means that disagreeing with anyone at all is considered such a death sentence. I like that he wants to claim it as a win even if few agree. It reminds me of a time before everything was fake and gay.
 
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Is it crazy to anyone else how in two weeks this thread will be fucking dead. its been averaging 40+ pages or more for a long time, and soon there will be one page a day at most. the ride's almost over

Oh ye of little imagination. We still have the "How could you vote for Cheeto Hitler a second time" arc. The "Evil Republicans were engaging in voter suppression against niggers, faggots and nigger faggots" arc. The "I'm moving to Canada because El Naranja is personally going to put me in the death camps for being a paedophile heccin valid transwoman" arc. And everyone's favourite "Here's how Bernie can still win" arc.
And that is all before inauguration.
 
Hell, even though I don't think mRNA shit worked this time, it does advance the tech which I do think could be useful in the future.
in 50 years, the damage Democrats did to public trust in mRNA vaccine technology will be looked back on similarly to the way Chernobyl affected trust in nuclear power
 
Is it crazy to anyone else how in two weeks this thread will be fucking dead. its been averaging 40+ pages or more for a long time, and soon there will be one page a day at most. the ride's almost over
This thread will soon be dead because we will hit a sufficiently large page count to be too annoying for jannies sweeping it up and a new one will have to be made. The best bet for it slowing down for a little is whatever happenings page being the main place for the upcoming riots rather than here.
 
I actually appreciate how Trump disagrees with his base on the covid vax. It's frankly refreshing to see anyone not just endlessly capitulate to the average person or even their own fans. I'm so fucking sick of focus tested fake bullshit. I completely disagree with him on its overall success/usefulness, but it is true that the shot was seemingly a net positive for survival odds in the very fat and very old. The mandates were the biggest problem, which he failed to address/prevent. On the other hand, his cutting of the red tape allowing its approval is very much consistent with how he operated everywhere else, and had the result from the pharma companies been better, would have been heralded as a great success. Hell, even though I don't think mRNA shit worked this time, it does advance the tech which I do think could be useful in the future. It's a pretty sad state of affairs that the outrage machine means that disagreeing with anyone at all is considered such a death sentence. I like that he wants to claim it as a win even if few agree. It reminds me of a time before everything was fake and gay.
I think part of the problem is that when people pointed out that there are legitimate concerns about the vaccine and it's effectiveness, the media and the Democrats circled the wagons and refused to hear it.

I believe that some batches did have contamination issues that caused sudden deaths to those who took it, but discussing and analyzing that was taboo. If Boeing can literally have planes fall out of the sky because they bribed the FAA, how are we supposed to believe that the CDC did their job perfectly?
 

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but it is true that the shot was seemingly a net positive for survival odds in the very fat and very old
No it isn't. There is absolutely nothing in the data to suggest the covid shots had any net benefit at all
Hell, even though I don't think mRNA shit worked this time, it does advance the tech which I do think could be useful in the future.
Any mRNA technology will have exactly the same side effects as the covid vaccine
 
Judge extends early voting option in a suburban Philadelphia county after Trump’s campaign sued
Associated Press (archive.ph)
By Marc Levy
2024-10-30 22:11:48GMT
HARRISBURG, Pa. (AP) — A Pennsylvania judge on Wednesday sided with Donald Trump’s campaign and agreed to extend an in-person voting option in a suburban Philadelphia county where long lines on the final day led to complaints voters were being disenfranchised by an unprepared election office.

Judge Jeffrey Trauger said in a one-page order that Bucks County voters who want to apply for an early mail ballot now have until Friday. The narrowly divided county, which is led by Democrats, is often seen as a political bellwether.

The Trump campaign’s lawsuit, which was filed Wednesday morning, comes amid a flurry of litigation and complaints over voting in a battleground state that is expected to play a central role in helping select the next president in 2024’s election.

The lawsuit sought a one-day extension, through Wednesday at 5 p.m., for Bucks County voters to apply in person for a mail-in ballot, a method referred to as on-demand mail voting in Pennsylvania. The judge’s order permits applications through the close of business on Friday.

Bucks County officials said they’re “pleased to be able to offer additional days for those who are still seeking to vote on-demand.”

Trump and Republicans cast the ruling as a win.

“Today’s ruling really is kind of a victory for making sure Pennsylvanians are going to have a secure and orderly process,” Bill McGinley, an attorney for the Republican National Committee and Trump campaign.

Neighboring Lehigh County on Tuesday asked a judge to extend the deadline there by one day, through Wednesday, because road closures in downtown Allentown around Trump’s rally blocked access to the elections office. The judge agreed.

In Bucks County, the Trump campaign lawsuit said people who were in line by Tuesday’s 5 p.m. deadline to apply in person for a mail ballot should have been allowed to get a ballot, even after the deadline. However, Bucks County’s election office denied voters that right and ordered them to leave, the lawsuit said.

“This is a direct violation of Pennsylvanians’ rights to cast their ballot — and all voters have a right to STAY in line,” the Trump campaign said in a statement.

The Republican National Committee and the campaign of Republican Senate nominee David McCormick joined the lawsuit.

In 2020, Bucks went for President Joe Biden, 52-47, when he carried the state. Four years earlier, Hillary Clinton won Bucks by a point, 49-48, when Trump won Pennsylvania.

Gov. Josh Shapiro’s administration had urged counties to allow every voter who was in line by the 5 p.m. deadline to submit a mail-in ballot application. Responding to criticism and misinformation on social media Tuesday, Bucks County had said every voter in line by 5 p.m. Tuesday would be allowed to apply for a mail ballot.

Pennsylvania does not allow early voting on voting machines in polling places, as some states do.

But Bucks County, like other counties in Pennsylvania, allows voters to apply for a mail-in ballot in person at the elections office and receive it there, a time-consuming process strained to the limit by Trump’s exhortations to his supporters to get out and vote before Tuesday’s deadline. Voters can also fill it out and hand it in at the office.

Voters waited up to three hours on Tuesday. Those still in line at 5 p.m. were told to go home, the lawsuit said.

In neighboring Lehigh County, a steady stream of voters took advantage of the one-day extension Wednesday, descending to the basement office of the voter registration office in Allentown to apply for a mail-in ballot, fill it out and turn it in. County elections workers explained the process as voters stepped into a crowded hallway.

“There are wonderful reps here who are telling everybody what to do, how to do it. It’s moving smoothly. I’m excited to be here,” Jeanne Birosik, a Republican voter, said as she waited for elections workers to prepare her mail ballot.

Birosik typically votes on Election Day, but in 2020, she said, she showed up to her polling place and was incorrectly told she’d already voted. She filled out a provisional ballot that time, but didn’t want to leave anything to chance for this election.

“This just seemed like a safer way to go about it,” she said.

Her husband, Chris Birosik, 62, who was also there to vote, said they didn’t consider dropping their ballots in the mail weeks ago — too risky, in his view.

“I just feel more confident that we get it in and do it this way,” he said.

The early voting angst in Bucks County is the latest dustup over voting in Pennsylvania, which has the largest trove of electoral votes of any battleground state and is by far the state most visited by the Democratic and Republican presidential tickets this year. The runup to Election Day in the state has been marked by numerous battles over mail ballots, some landing on the doorstep of the U.S. Supreme Court.

In Erie County, where more than 40,000 people requested early mail ballots, Democrats raised concerns in a lawsuit Wednesday that thousands of voters were still waiting for them. The suit also alleged that some 1,800 ballots were lost due to postal problems and that about 300 people received two ballots, some of them for the wrong races.

To address the problems, the county has agreed to extend voter registration hours and help voters file provisional ballots at the polls on Tuesday. A hearing was meanwhile set for Thursday in state court.

“We just want to make sure that we don’t have a continuation of the problem by overloading the system with provisional ballots,” said Clifford Levine, counsel for the Pennsylvania Democratic Party. “I think everybody wants everybody’s vote to count.”
 
No it isn't. There is absolutely nothing in the data to suggest the covid shots had any net benefit at all

Any mRNA technology will have exactly the same side effects as the covid vaccine
In Canada we had a daily tracker of infections that tracked the vaccinated and the unvaccinated. That graph clearly showed that the number of vaccinated people getting sick was growing, and the day that the cart indicated the vaccination sick would outpace the unvaccinated sick, suddenly they stopped updating the chart and called it meaningless.
 
Maine always teases but pretty much never goes Republican outside of that one Congressional district, and Minnesota I think is too overrun with Somalis and white libshits to go red anytime in the near future.
It’s mostly “people of color,” generally. Think of it like a passport bro, foreign wife relationship dynamic. Their vote isn’t guaranteed for the Democrats dare I say in the near future.

Cause we all know how these relationships turn out when the bro and hoe go “home.”

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It's pretty clear to me that woke is dead or close to dying. With the changes to the media not endorsing candidates and formerly anti trump ceos kissing his feet now. It seems the libshit era of 2015 to 2022 is over.
Uhh for the first hundred years or so Christians were regarded as insane cultists who set cities on fire to get suicided-by-cop, drink blood and flesh, believe in things that make no logical sense and spend more time on infighting than destabilizing society so there's no need to worry about them.
 
It's pretty clear to me that woke is dead or close to dying. With the changes to the media not endorsing candidates and formerly anti trump ceos kissing his feet now. It seems the libshit era of 2015 to 2022 is over.
Well we need trump to win to put the nail in the coffin, maybe jd being winning 2028 and 2032 for good measure if he doesn't shit the bed as vp.
 
They are so butthurt over Musk owning Twitter.

Voting officials face an 'uphill battle' to fight election lies
NPR (archive.ph)
By Shannon Bond and Miles Parks
2024-10-30 16:19:08GMT
Last week, a video began circulating on X, formerly Twitter, purporting to show a person in Pennsylvania ripping up ballots marked for former President Donald Trump and leaving alone those marked for Vice President Harris.

The person curses the former president multiple times and at one point says, “Vote Harris.”

The video is a fake. The envelopes and ballots shown don’t match what that county actually uses to vote. U.S. officials said it was created and spread by Russia to sow doubt in the election.

But the incident showed what has been clear for some time now: Online in 2024, the deck is stacked against voting officials, maybe even more so than in 2020. The phony video was viewed hundreds of thousands of times shortly after it was posted. A statement from Bucks County debunking it three hours later was shared on X fewer than 100 times.

“They're fighting an uphill battle,” said Darren Linvill, co-director of Clemson University’s Media Forensics Hub, which tracks election influence campaigns. “I'm sure that they often feel like they're trying to put their finger in the dike before it bursts.”

Linvill traced the video back to a Russian propaganda operation, first identified by Clemson, that has also spread faked videos targeting Harris and her running mate Tim Walz in recent weeks.

With less than a week left of voting, the election cycle has entered a fraught stage in which rumors, misleading claims and conspiracy theories are surging. And election administrators, intelligence officials and researchers don’t expect that to end when polls close. They are bracing for what is expected to be a contentious period of counting and certifying votes, in which discord fueled by foreign and domestic sources could be corrosive to democracy.

Perhaps the biggest factor is former President Donald Trump, who continues to falsely assert he won the 2020 election, despite courts and investigations finding no evidence of fraud. He has already set the stage to reject the results should he lose again this year.

“If I lose — I’ll tell you what, it’s possible. Because they cheat. That’s the only way we’re gonna lose, because they cheat,” Trump said at a September rally in Michigan.

Despite the lack of evidence, his claims have been embraced by many Republicans and eroded confidence in voting among a wide swath of Americans.

“We’ve already set the standard that you are allowed to doubt the results on Election Day,” said Linvill. “And that just doesn’t bode well.”

America’s geopolitical adversaries — particularly Russia, Iran and China — are expected to seize on election fraud claims, however unfounded, and generate their own material undermining the results, as part of their larger goals to sow chaos and discredit democracy.

Officials charged with safeguarding voting say they’ve learned and are applying many lessons from 2016 and 2020 — but are also confronting a new set of challenges this year, including advances in artificial intelligence that make it easier and cheaper to generate realistic but fake images, video, audio and text, and the emergence of X owner Elon Musk as a leading Trump surrogate, donor and amplifier of election fraud conspiracy theories.

“Going into the 2024 election cycle, we are arguably facing the most complex threat environment compared to a prior cycle,” said Cait Conley, who oversees election security efforts within the Department of Homeland Security’s cyber agency, in an interview with NPR.

Foreign powers seize on divisive issues
To meet that heightened risk, government officials are counting on transparency and warnings to help Americans gird themselves against manipulation.

Federal intelligence and law enforcement officials are taking a more aggressive approach this year in calling out foreign meddling. It’s a stark difference from 2016, when the Obama administration was reticent to make public information about the full scope of Russia’s efforts favoring Trump until after the election.

This year, Russia is angling to boost Trump, as it did in the previous two presidential elections, while Iran is trying to undermine the former president, the intelligence community and private sector researchers say. China is targeting down-ballot races but does not appear to have a preference in the presidential race. All three regularly seize on divisive issues, from immigration to abortion to Israel’s war in Gaza, to exacerbate discord among Americans. And they’ve all experimented with using AI to churn out more misleading content.

“Our adversaries know that misinformation and disinformation is cheap and effective,” said Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va., who chairs the Senate intelligence committee, in an interview with NPR.

The federal government moved quickly to publicly attribute the fake Pennsylvania ballot video to Russia the day after the video first appeared on X — a notably rapid turnaround for intelligence and law enforcement officials. And they warned they expect more such fakes in the coming days and weeks.

In September, the Justice Department seized web domains it says Russian operatives used to spoof American news outlets and spread fake stories, indicted employees of Kremlin-backed broadcaster RT in a scheme to fund right-wing pro-Trump American influencers, and brought criminal charges against Iranian hackers accused of targeting the Trump campaign.

DHS’s Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency and the FBI have issued joint public service announcements alerting Americans to tactics foreign actors might use to discredit the election, including ransomware attacks or falsely claiming to have hacked voter registration systems.

Officials say, so far, there’s no sign that foreign adversaries have breached any election or voting systems. But attackers don’t have to succeed in order to undermine confidence, Conley, the election security expert, said.

“While these things like a [distributed denial of service] attack or ransomware could be disruptive to the elections process, it's not going to undermine the security or integrity of the vote casting or counting process,” Conley said. “But our adversaries may try to convince the American people otherwise.”

At all levels of government, the message is consistent: Turn to the people running local elections for authoritative voting information.

“What we are really trying to encourage them to do is to know that it is your state and local election official that is the signal through that noise,” Conley said.

And local election officials are making more of an effort than ever before to seek out media attention and educate the public on their processes. State election officials in a number of swing states have started holding multiple press conferences per week leading up to Nov. 5.

“It's really important for us to get the message out there first and be as proactive as possible,” said Isaac Cramer, who runs elections in Charleston County, S.C.

Partisan and splintered realities
The very subject of election “disinformation” itself has been turned into a partisan fight. A coordinated Republican legal and political campaign to cast efforts to mitigate or track the spread of falsehoods online as “censorship” has undercut the work of government agencies, online platforms and researchers, and driven one institution out of the field.

Last month, Warner wrote an open letter urging CISA to do more to help state and local governments identify and respond to election misinformation and disinformation campaigns, and to coordinate communications between the government, tech companies and researchers.

“The government needs to get this information out as quickly as possible, because literally the stakes are nothing less than our democracy,” Warner told NPR.

Cramer, the election official in South Carolina, said one challenge for local governments dealing with false information online is how splintered the internet is. He’s recently started seeing a lot more wrong voting information on NextDoor, for instance.

“We can't possibly have eyes on every platform and see everything that is being posted,” Cramer said.

Increasingly election officials are thinking outside the box to reach voters, because trying to fight fire with fire on social media has felt like a losing battle for years now, says Carolina Lopez, a former election official from Miami-Dade County, Fla.

“Election officers around the country spend a whole lot of time producing content for social media, and it always kills me when I see, like, three likes and it's usually themselves, their [spokesperson] and their mom,” said Lopez, who now runs the Partnership for Large Election Jurisdictions. “Election officials are trying to figure out, ‘Well, what else can I do to be heard?’”

In Montgomery County, Pa., Neil Makhija fashioned a voting ice cream truck to travel his county and help people vote. Cramer, in Charleston County, co-wrote a children’s book. Derek Bowens, in Durham County, N.C., created an app that could deliver accurate election information directly to people there.

The world’s richest man’s megaphone
One of the loudest voices elevating unverified rumors and outright falsehoods about the 2024 election also controls a major communications platform. Musk, the world’s richest man, took control of Twitter two years ago and has remade the site, now called X, into a pro-Trump megaphone.

Musk has become a major vector for baseless claims that Democrats are bringing in immigrants to illegally vote for them — a conspiracy theory Trump and other Republicans have embraced and are using to lay the groundwork to claim the election was stolen should he lose.

When election officials try to correct Musk’s false claims, he has lashed out. Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson told CBS News that she and her staff received threats and harassing messages after Musk called her a liar when she fact-checked his claim that the state has more registered voters than eligible citizens.

Musk has also shared AI-generated content on X without disclosure, including images and videos of Harris doing and saying things she didn’t.

Musk’s America PAC is inviting users to share “potential incidents of voter fraud or irregularities” on an “Election Integrity Community” on X that has more than 40,000 members. The feed is filled with allegations that voting machines are switching votes from Trump to Harris and posts casting doubt on the security of mail-in ballots — both frequently debunked narratives in 2020 — as well as copies of the fake Bucks County video.

Danielle Lee Tomson, research manager at the University of Washington’s Center for an Informed Public, said such “evidence generation infrastructure” is more robust this year. Even when these efforts identify real issues with voting, they tend to ignore the checks in the system that catch problems, she said.

“If you see something seemingly suspicious, and then you take a picture of it and post it online, that can be decontextualized so quickly and not take into account all of the various remedies or the fact that there's nothing suspicious there at all,” she said.

Local election officials are making their processes more transparent than ever this year, including livestreaming counting facilities, and welcoming record numbers of election monitors. But such openness is a double-edged sword: Video feeds provide more material for content creators who may use it to push their own narratives of malfeasance — such as the false claims against Georgia election workers amplified by Trump in 2020. That leaves officials operating with the knowledge that their every move will be scrutinized.

“We try to not commit unforced errors,” said Stephen Richer, the Republican recorder in Maricopa County, Ariz., who has been an outspoken debunker of election lies. “But at the end of the day, if somebody really wants to make something look weird, I think they can do it, unfortunately.”

Social media steps back
In 2020, major social media platforms proactively boosted election officials as authoritative sources of information, made misleading posts about voting less visible, and added warning labels to false claims. Now, Musk has cut most of X’s team policing the platform and removed many guardrails against false and misleading content.

X is the most glaring example, but other platforms have also backed away from the more aggressive stance they took in 2020, cut back on the number of people working on trust and safety, and are generally more quiet about the work they are doing. Meta now lets Facebook and Instagram users opt out of some features of its fact-checking program, while its text-based social network, Threads, has deemphasized news and politics.

Warner told NPR he’s concerned social media platforms have stepped back at a time when threats, including from AI-generated content, are more urgent.

“Think about the devastating effect it’d have if somebody uses an AI image of what looks like an election official somehow destroying ballots or, you know, breaking into a drop box,” he said. “That kind of imagery could literally spark violence in a close election after the fact and again undermine Americans’ confidence in our system.”

In the face of that landscape, election officials say they are controlling what they can control. They have spent countless hours reaching out to skeptical voters over the past four years, and they’re now clinging onto hope that work will make a difference in people's willingness to accept election results.

Michael Adams, the Republican secretary of state of Kentucky, is hoping the novelty of election denial will start wearing off as well.

“For a while there, every six months, they'd come up with a new conspiracy theory. It would be debunked. They'd have egg on their face. They go back in their hole for six months and then come back,” Adams said. “You only get so many bites at that apple.”
 
The biggest manufacturer of OxyContin was Purdue Pharma, the company that owned it. They would not have been covered by insurance had not the insurance companies been in on the racket, which no one ever wants to acknowledge. Blue Cross Blue Shield is one of the biggest lobbying groups in the US and no one holds them accountable - but keep bringing up Jews. I am certain that will redound to everyone's benefit.

Teva Pharmaceuticals was far from the only manufacturer of generic opioids. Allergan (an Irish company) was also heavily involved in this issue and sold their opioids portfolio to Teva in an attempt to get ahead of a lawsuit (which failed), which is why people now say Teva Pharmaceuticals is the biggest offender - however, the US legal system did not agree, and Allergan was forced to pay out $2 billion in settlements. CVS, Walgreens, and Walmart were also heavily fined for their involvement in the opioid scandal.

Johnson & Johnson also got significantly dinged, as did all the distributors. Blaming Teva Pharmaceuticals, when there are countless other major companies with major involvement, is a classic case of "I found a Jew and I'm gonna shriek about it."

As an aside, it's nice to know that I live rent free in some people's heads for the simple fact that I don't hate Jews:
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fuck the lying scumbag media, the joke was not racist by the definition of racism as it refers to the place Puerto Rico not the people. Insinuates that Trump said it too, lying bitch. So fucking weird that they latch onto that because they know Puerto Ricans can swing some states, they won't mention the black thing or other jokes because 90% of blacks are voting Harris.
 
Imagine losing out on ~40 million views because you can't sit down to have a three hour conversation like a real human being.

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It's even worse considering that Rogan puts his episodes on Spotify which takes away from the YouTube view count. This is now the second most popular JRE episode of all time just based on YouTube views, beating out several episodes from before the time that Rogan signed the Spotify deal. I don't know how many listens he gets there, but it may well be his biggest episode already and I would not be at all surprised to see it pushing 50 million views by election day.

Coincidentally, Trump's appearance on Theo Von's podcast is also the second most popular episode at over 14 million views. Some attribute Trump going on podcasts to his son Baron being a fan of them, but whoever talked him into it is a genius. It lets Trump show off how personable he actually is and completely dispels the media narrative about him.
and it looks like it's working.
 
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