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US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians
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Oh nooooooo
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Anything the SC rules on is big because it sets precedent.
I don't want to doom but anything that isn't a win for Trump should be treated with suspicion and resistance.
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Realistically if both sides do massive election fraud what would even happen, the winner wins the election regardless of the amount of fraud
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I have a sincerely held belief that religion is necessary for the human condition. Modern American liberalism is the result of people turning away from God.
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I mean, yeah, but they can just vote again on election day anyway, which is what I'd recommend people to do anyway whether or not they voted early. It seems to be really minor anyway, plus, wouldn't it mean that they can also reject Democrat votes if they don't fill their ballots properly?
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Other post too long, continuing on this one
https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2024/11/02/erie-pennsylvania-mail-voting/ / http://archive.today/x0I7b
By Sarah Blaskey and Samuel Oakford, November 2, 2024 at 4:03 a.m. EDT
A judge’s order would apply to at least 14,000 in the crucial swing county of Erie, Pennsylvania, who say they never got their requested mail-in ballots, in a move hailed by both major parties.
At least 14,000 or more voters in Erie County, Pennsylvania, who wanted to submit mail-in ballots will be allowed to vote in person before Election Day after officials were unable to verify whether they ever received the ones they requested, according to an order from Erie County Judge David Ridge on Friday.
The affected Erie County voters who could have mailed in or dropped off their ballots in a designated box now face the prospect of long lines with significant wait times, because they will have to have their previous mail-in ballot requests canceled to cast new ones.
The challenges are even steeper for those who were counting on being able to vote by mail because they are unable to go to the courthouse, either because they are out of town or incapacitated. The affected voters have little time left before Tuesday’s Election Day, when all mail-in ballots must be received by 8 p.m., and the county is also running out of paper ballots and envelopes.
Still, both major parties are hailing the judge’s decision. On Wednesday, the Pennsylvania Democratic Party filed a lawsuit against the Erie County Board of Elections, alleging multiple errors by the third-party vendor responsible for printing and sending mail-in ballots, which resulted in thousands not receiving the ballots requested. The court-ordered remedies were negotiated with bipartisan support after the state Republican Party formally joined the suit on Thursday.
The Democrats’ attorney, Timothy McNair, said in a statement to The Washington Post on Thursday that he did not blame problems on the county’s elections department, which “acted in nothing but the utmost good faith throughout, and has been working around the clock to try to recover” from the vendor’s failures. McNair added that attorneys for the state and national Republican Party “were also cooperative throughout and worked toward the same goal as us with no rancor.”
Logistical problems are not uncommon during elections, but with the outcome predicted to be decided by razor-thin margins in Pennsylvania, losing even a small number of voters as a result of these errors could make a difference in who wins the state. Erie County is also a bellwether being closely watched, after it went in turn for Barack Obama, Donald Trump and Joe Biden.
The Trump campaign has also sought to cast doubt among voters about election integrity, and as some Erie County residents waited for their mail-in ballots, they worried the delay was more than just a mistake.
Responding to swirling conspiracy theories, the Pennsylvania Republican Party’s general counsel Tom King said: “The problems in Erie were a result of significant failures by the vendor and the inability of the County Election Bureau to do anything about it without Court intervention.”
King added that the order would help the many Trump supporters who have opted for mail-in ballots this year. “I think it’s a good thing for democracy and a good thing for the process and it’s a victory for us,” King said.
Court records show the county was unable to determine the delivery status of between 13,000 and 17,000 requested mail-in ballots. Another 1,200 Erie voters who temporarily reside outside the state also may not have received their ballots, according to the judge’s order, and at least 365 voters received duplicate ballots with bar codes belonging to another voter.
The judge’s order also extends the election office’s hours of operation to include the weekend to facilitate those who want to cast ballots. The court also ordered the Erie County Board of Elections to add another printer immediately to help reduce wait times. The elections board will also overnight ballots to temporarily out-of-state voters.
Such a remedy “could cause confusion for voters and raises mobility issues for folks voting by mail because they can’t travel to a polling location,” noted Daniel Mallinson, a professor at Pennsylvania State University in Harrisburg. “But it’s also so close to the election that this is likely the best way to make sure their votes are cast in time.”
The county did not respond to requests for comment. The vendor, Ohio-based ElectionIQ, also did not respond to The Post.
Pamela Tilley, a 67-year-old Erie County resident, said she received an email from myballot@pa.gov on Oct. 9 stating that her ballot was being prepared and would be sent soon. But she then received another email from the Pennsylvania Department of State on Oct. 16, informing her that her ballot had been mailed “7 days ago.” Her ballot never arrived, she said.
“It’s never been a problem,” said Tilley, who voted by mail in previous elections. “To this day even, I have not received it.”
Tilley, a registered Democrat, said she contacted state and local officials and even attempted to contact ElectionIQ after seeing it named in a local news report. She and her husband, Al, drove to the Erie County courthouse on Oct. 25, hoping to cancel their requested ballots and obtain new ones to fill out on the spot.
Tilley and her husband, who is being treated for cancer, waited in line for more than an hour before giving up and going home. Videos and photographs taken this week showed lines snaking through the building.
Pennsylvania does not have traditional early-voting days, but voters can request a mail ballot in person and then fill it out on the spot. Such “on-demand” mail-ballot voting, however, is a labor-intensive process that takes more time than other methods of voting. This process has resulted in long lines across the state as more voters have opted to vote early in person this election.
Tilley said she went back to the courthouse alone on the last day of on-demand voting and waited in line for more than four hours before election officials let her cancel her undelivered ballot and cast a new one. She said her husband voted the next day after the county extended the deadline for those who had not received requested mail-in ballots.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2024/11/02/erie-pennsylvania-mail-voting/ / http://archive.today/x0I7b
Would-be mail-in voters in key Pennsylvania county can go in person, judge says
By Sarah Blaskey and Samuel Oakford, November 2, 2024 at 4:03 a.m. EDT
A judge’s order would apply to at least 14,000 in the crucial swing county of Erie, Pennsylvania, who say they never got their requested mail-in ballots, in a move hailed by both major parties.
At least 14,000 or more voters in Erie County, Pennsylvania, who wanted to submit mail-in ballots will be allowed to vote in person before Election Day after officials were unable to verify whether they ever received the ones they requested, according to an order from Erie County Judge David Ridge on Friday.
The affected Erie County voters who could have mailed in or dropped off their ballots in a designated box now face the prospect of long lines with significant wait times, because they will have to have their previous mail-in ballot requests canceled to cast new ones.
The challenges are even steeper for those who were counting on being able to vote by mail because they are unable to go to the courthouse, either because they are out of town or incapacitated. The affected voters have little time left before Tuesday’s Election Day, when all mail-in ballots must be received by 8 p.m., and the county is also running out of paper ballots and envelopes.
Still, both major parties are hailing the judge’s decision. On Wednesday, the Pennsylvania Democratic Party filed a lawsuit against the Erie County Board of Elections, alleging multiple errors by the third-party vendor responsible for printing and sending mail-in ballots, which resulted in thousands not receiving the ballots requested. The court-ordered remedies were negotiated with bipartisan support after the state Republican Party formally joined the suit on Thursday.
The Democrats’ attorney, Timothy McNair, said in a statement to The Washington Post on Thursday that he did not blame problems on the county’s elections department, which “acted in nothing but the utmost good faith throughout, and has been working around the clock to try to recover” from the vendor’s failures. McNair added that attorneys for the state and national Republican Party “were also cooperative throughout and worked toward the same goal as us with no rancor.”
Logistical problems are not uncommon during elections, but with the outcome predicted to be decided by razor-thin margins in Pennsylvania, losing even a small number of voters as a result of these errors could make a difference in who wins the state. Erie County is also a bellwether being closely watched, after it went in turn for Barack Obama, Donald Trump and Joe Biden.
The Trump campaign has also sought to cast doubt among voters about election integrity, and as some Erie County residents waited for their mail-in ballots, they worried the delay was more than just a mistake.
Responding to swirling conspiracy theories, the Pennsylvania Republican Party’s general counsel Tom King said: “The problems in Erie were a result of significant failures by the vendor and the inability of the County Election Bureau to do anything about it without Court intervention.”
King added that the order would help the many Trump supporters who have opted for mail-in ballots this year. “I think it’s a good thing for democracy and a good thing for the process and it’s a victory for us,” King said.
Court records show the county was unable to determine the delivery status of between 13,000 and 17,000 requested mail-in ballots. Another 1,200 Erie voters who temporarily reside outside the state also may not have received their ballots, according to the judge’s order, and at least 365 voters received duplicate ballots with bar codes belonging to another voter.
The judge’s order also extends the election office’s hours of operation to include the weekend to facilitate those who want to cast ballots. The court also ordered the Erie County Board of Elections to add another printer immediately to help reduce wait times. The elections board will also overnight ballots to temporarily out-of-state voters.
Such a remedy “could cause confusion for voters and raises mobility issues for folks voting by mail because they can’t travel to a polling location,” noted Daniel Mallinson, a professor at Pennsylvania State University in Harrisburg. “But it’s also so close to the election that this is likely the best way to make sure their votes are cast in time.”
The county did not respond to requests for comment. The vendor, Ohio-based ElectionIQ, also did not respond to The Post.
Pamela Tilley, a 67-year-old Erie County resident, said she received an email from myballot@pa.gov on Oct. 9 stating that her ballot was being prepared and would be sent soon. But she then received another email from the Pennsylvania Department of State on Oct. 16, informing her that her ballot had been mailed “7 days ago.” Her ballot never arrived, she said.
“It’s never been a problem,” said Tilley, who voted by mail in previous elections. “To this day even, I have not received it.”
Tilley, a registered Democrat, said she contacted state and local officials and even attempted to contact ElectionIQ after seeing it named in a local news report. She and her husband, Al, drove to the Erie County courthouse on Oct. 25, hoping to cancel their requested ballots and obtain new ones to fill out on the spot.
Tilley and her husband, who is being treated for cancer, waited in line for more than an hour before giving up and going home. Videos and photographs taken this week showed lines snaking through the building.
Pennsylvania does not have traditional early-voting days, but voters can request a mail ballot in person and then fill it out on the spot. Such “on-demand” mail-ballot voting, however, is a labor-intensive process that takes more time than other methods of voting. This process has resulted in long lines across the state as more voters have opted to vote early in person this election.
Tilley said she went back to the courthouse alone on the last day of on-demand voting and waited in line for more than four hours before election officials let her cancel her undelivered ballot and cast a new one. She said her husband voted the next day after the county extended the deadline for those who had not received requested mail-in ballots.
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That only works if CNN goes along with Trump declaring victory. MSNBC will fight to the bitter end to refuse to announce Trump won and if Fox News doesn't have the stroke it used to have that it declaring Trump won, everyone else would follow suit.
Not only can I see Kamala refuse to concede but I can see her or others around her, giving the kill order to murder Trump and Vance and anyone in a five mile radius of them purely because they can and then crow that the Supreme Court said they had authority to murder people because "the President is above the law" and go full faschy dictator. Hell, I would not be shocked if Biden and his ilk go full John Wilkes Boothe and have assassins on standby to kill the conservative Supreme Court Judges and other high profile conservatives to go full Knight of the Long Knives since if they kill Trump, they might as well take out others too because they've already started the ball rolling on killing political enemies.
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The SCOTUS decision doesn't seem so bad - they ruled that if state law says your mail-in ballot can't be counted due to being submitted improperly, then it can't be counted. They can still vote in person. Improperly submitted ballots overwhelmingly favor Democrats, so the real question is if the 2 am dumps full of procedurally illegitimate votes for Kamala will be counted, and if SCOTUS will uphold their counting (whether explicitly or via standing & laches).
Huh. I was assured by people in this thread that Democrats wouldn't do it again because they would be too embarrassed to cheat that blatantly a second time.
Huh. I was assured by people in this thread that Democrats wouldn't do it again because they would be too embarrassed to cheat that blatantly a second time.
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My non-doom about cheating.
I think they will try to cheat. Howeve
1. Trumps team seems to be on top of it.
2. Twitter being liberated has created a lot of transparency as you can see with all the videos being uploaded by normal citizens.
3. Kamala is a horrible candidate and all the astroturfed support is not convincing anyone that she is popular.
These conditions are at least putting the doubt and fear into would be cheaters. The low level cheaters know they are being watched and filmed. The establishment cheaters know her winning will look shady as fuck and nobody will buy it.
The media is trying to counter these cheating claims by dismissing them with the usual tags (misinformation conspiracy etc). The media acts as an arm for the Democrats. They are scared.
I think they will try to cheat. Howeve
1. Trumps team seems to be on top of it.
2. Twitter being liberated has created a lot of transparency as you can see with all the videos being uploaded by normal citizens.
3. Kamala is a horrible candidate and all the astroturfed support is not convincing anyone that she is popular.
These conditions are at least putting the doubt and fear into would be cheaters. The low level cheaters know they are being watched and filmed. The establishment cheaters know her winning will look shady as fuck and nobody will buy it.
The media is trying to counter these cheating claims by dismissing them with the usual tags (misinformation conspiracy etc). The media acts as an arm for the Democrats. They are scared.
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You're assuming those people think logically like you do and not fanatically.
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I want Trump to win so the media shuts up about January 6th
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Showing a bunch of fraud happening without it being corrected at this point in the election is not exactly encouraging. The Supreme Court already cucked so it's not like all the proof of cheating is going to nullify the election. What's even the process to address it at this point?
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I'd like to introduce her to one or two of my similar-age sons so she can choose her favorite with whom to be betrothed and eventually produce Generation Omega.
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I'm not gonna repeat my HopePosting, but there are already a bunch of lawsuits going on, and, the more is documented and provable in court, the easier it will be to argue for either a re-count, or a re-vote.
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Kek, this Kamala does not exist. She just follows orders and has no autonomy. For her first interview, she needed her handler next to her. Everything she does is scripted. Everytime she goes to answer questions now, it's from pre-selected reporters and news outlets. As soon as she goes off script she sounds like she is drunk.
Biden's biggest trophy would be to have Kamala lose and remain as the only guy who beat Trump. Even if he wanted to go full gun ho', he can barely make cohesive sentences.
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People forget but you are correct about Twitter. 2020 you were shut the fuck down on nearly every website if not outright banned and/or life ruination tactics used against you if you weren't anon.
Big test will be election night if it's close at like 10 pm in a swing state and they start saying they need to take a break and resume in the morning people need to basically be out en masse with cameras and chuds need to basically be refusing to fuck off when the libcucks try and get them to leave.
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Hate to be an ass, but I doubt the media ever will; with the amount of easily brainwashed tards that automatically believe anything the media says, it's likely that the Dems will use Jan. 6th as one of their preferred propaganda pieces for quite some time.
And yet, woketards will vote for Kamala anyway, because the media has convinced the weak-minded that Trump is literally a demon. Ironic that the side that focuses entirely on subverting and corrupting others think that they're the heroes here...
Big time. It's pretty obvious that the Dems are going to try and cheat again, especially since they were able to do so last time with no repercussions. The political right needs to step up their game and not pussyfoot around this time; make sure no cheating goes on.
Make no mistake, I'm more than willing to respect a fair and honest election, but after what happened over the past 8+ years, it's impossible to view the Democrats as "fair and honest".
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