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The biggest thing I'm leaning on is that Dem VBM in Pennsylvania is really lower than it needs to be. They got a bump on Friday but nothing that claws back that gaping hole.

And I didn't know this until I saw it mentioned on X. Philadelphia was the hardest hit city in sticky grocery store inflation. Dallas and Houston had more but those are high growth cities with cheaper options if you drive.

The only way to get away from the prices in Philly is to drive to Wilmington Delaware.

24% of Philly is at the poverty line or below it. They're being asked to get excited about an HR Karen who wears $25,000 worth of jewelry to work.

The local Dems have spent the past year squawking about demolishing half of Chinatown to build a new Sixers stadium. Nobody gives a shit about those people.
 
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I’m still betting on abortion not being the winning issue for Democrats. If they were able to create a better economy, strong border, or even just not overspending tax dollars, then they’d have a much easier time gaining traction. They don’t have any of that, and the strong focus on abortion is because there’s literally not much else to run on. They had four years to show Americans they were decent leaders, but are the exact opposite. I’m sure there are some types that are single issue voters with abortion, but based on surveys of overall concerns, inflation and the border are way bigger issues.
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Even if Kamala wins, will she even be able to do anything with abortion rights, or is it actually decided in the courts? If she can then why did she and Biden not already do it if it’s possible? In 2022, Biden and every Dem running ran pretty much solely on the downfall of Roe v. Wade. And then when they did "ok" in 2022, Biden immediately said there was nothing he could do. Why would Kamala winning even make a difference?
 
I'm currently reading up on the final Rasmussen polling, and they have Trump projected to win 30% of the black vote.

Sounds pretty damn optimistic to me, although I do think he will perform better among that demographic this time. Rasmussen was one of the few polls that was more or less totally correct in 2016 though, so ... We'll see. 30% still sounds pretty high to me.

Don't get me wrong, it would be amazing if Trump got 30% of the black vote. If that projection comes to fruition on Tuesday, then it will absolutely be an electoral landslide for Trump. I don't see how the Dems can possibly pull electoral victories from numbers like that, especially in cities like Philly or Atlanta.

So, you know, I hope Rasmussen is accurate here.
 
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In 2016 celebrities like George Clooney weren’t legal kingmakers. Remember they basically threw Biden under the bus because of Clooney.
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Biden was pissing off a lot of the big money donors who wanted him out. Clooney was just the most famous and vocal one that the press latched on to.
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Here is the weird thing. Sure, it seems to be THE issue for them but all messaging is about Trump. What is Kamala's policy? what exactly is she planning to do if she wins? There seem to be no actual policy or plan other than the message "vote for me or Trump will end abortion?".
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Them fear mongering abortion is the only safe play they can make. They have plans and agendas, but they will lose hard if they are public about it (Price fixing, youth LGBT+, hate speech, endless immigration, late term abortion, picking either side in the Israeli Gaza war, etc.)

Abortion is the new college debt forgiveness to dangle in front of their supporters to vote for them over and over again dispite not tackling the issue after years in office.
 
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I'm currently reading up on the final Rasmussen polling, and they have Trump projected to win 30% of the black vote.

Sounds pretty damn optimistic to me, although I do think he will perform better among that demographic this time. Rasmussen was one of the few polls that was more or less totally correct in 2016 though, so ... We'll see. 30% still sounds pretty high to me.

Don't get me wrong, it would be amazing if Trump got 30% of the black vote. If that projection comes to fruition on Tuesday, then it will absolutely be an electoral landslide for Trump. I don't see how the Dems can possibly pull electoral victories from numbers like that, especially in cities like Philly or Atlanta.

So, you know, I hope Rasmussen is accurate here.
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As the meme goes, Trump has multiple baby mommas, cool sneakers, multiple felonies, loves McDs, and has been literally shot.

He is the orangest nigga.
 
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Jacques1194 said:
Even if Kamala wins, will she even be able to do anything with abortion rights, or is it actually decided in the courts? If she can then why did she and Biden not already do it if it’s possible? In 2022, Biden and every Dem running ran pretty much solely on the downfall of Roe v. Wade. And then when they did "ok" in 2022, Biden immediately said there was nothing he could do. Why would Kamala winning even make a difference?
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Nah, unless they pass it in some bill with 20 other poison pills in it. But their track record the last four years paints a dim view on that.

I agree with the other posters in the thread that the most likely outcome of a Harris presidency is War. It will be the only way they will be able to think of trying to salvage the US. War to somehow stop Russia and China. War to pass wartime laws to allow an actual crackdown, pass 'emergency' policies, and dismantling of the opposition. War to unironically embrace the loot economy idea and somehow cargo cult another 1950s economy into existence.

I have concerns with Trump due to his need to support Israel, but the risk is still much lower. More importantly, if or when Trump fucks up, he'd be willing to negotiate. Harris would just double-down until she throws nukes in a rage.
 
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Catboy Ranch said:
How many driveby spergouts is Null going to make in here today
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Hopefully none now that PPP is tard wrangling him.
Jacques1194 said:
Even if Kamala wins, will she even be able to do anything with abortion rights, or is it actually decided in the courts? If she can then why did she and Biden not already do it if it’s possible? In 2022, Biden and every Dem running ran pretty much solely on the downfall of Roe v. Wade. And then when they did "ok" in 2022, Biden immediately said there was nothing he could do. Why would Kamala winning even make a difference?
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They can made federal abortion laws. But they won't because it's the one issue that people are actually motivated about.
 
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I wonder how many people thought Rome was going to cease to exist when the Gracchi brothers died. They had another 100 years of a Republic and a good 450 years to go (like 1200 if you ask the East) before Rome wasn't the cultural center of the planet.

Just food for thought.
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Well.... a little later than that but:
Juvenal
55 AD - 128 AD
Satire VI

  • lines 6.200-230 – Women torment even men they love and want to rule the home, then they just move on to another man – one with eight husbands in five years.

  • lines 6.286-313 – Poverty and constant work kept women chaste previously. It was the excessive wealth that came with conquest that destroyed Roman morality with luxury.

  • lines 6.592-609 – At least poor women will have children. Rich women instead receive abortions to avoid the bother. But husbands should be glad since they would just become the father of a half-Ethiopian anyway. Women also get abandoned children to pass off as those of their husbands; these become the Roman elite
Satire III

That race most acceptable now to our wealthy Romans,

That race I principally wish to flee, I’ll swiftly reveal,

And without embarrassment. My friends, I can’t stand

A Rome full of Greeks, yet few of the dregs are Greek!.......

Further along in the Satire.

There’s no room here for the Romans; it’s some Greek;

Protogenes, or Diphilus, or Hermachus who reigns here,

Who never shares a friend, since that’s their race’s defect,

But monopolises him alone. For once they’ve dripped a drop

Of their country’s native poison in a ready ear, I’m driven

From the threshold.....


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Even if it was all satire as we'd know today (From what I've read its disputed if he's being serious about his criticisms) You just know he got those ideas from people he heard grumbling around him.
 
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Jacques1194 said:
Even if Kamala wins, will she even be able to do anything with abortion rights, or is it actually decided in the courts? If she can then why did she and Biden not already do it if it’s possible? In 2022, Biden and every Dem running ran pretty much solely on the downfall of Roe v. Wade. And then when they did "ok" in 2022, Biden immediately said there was nothing he could do. Why would Kamala winning even make a difference?
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Nothing will ever be done on purpose about abortion because it is the only issue they basically have to run on so why would they ever take that away.

King nigger had super majority and refused to fuck with it even with people begging him to do so for that reason. If the elite wanted it done it would be done long ago.
 
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