US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[shekelshoah666]

This is my biggest concern. How big is the fraud going to be, and will the courts do anything about? Or will the Democrats scare up as many fake votes as they need to flip the Rust Belt again and we'll get told to piss off via standing & laches?

Looking at 2020 in PA specifically the raw number of votes they had a 1.1m EV firewall and won by like 80k but now in 2024 they have a ~400k EV firewall so... the pure numbers they have to push through to even get to where they were in 2020 with all the shenanigans seems out of reach.

Like I can see pushing some here or there but pushing at minimum 700k probably much higher then that cause you would need to at least look kinda real with the percentages doesn't seem like something you could do without the kung flu locking everything down.

 

[Balanced Boomer]

Things must be getting pretty dire in the Trump thread if it's resident niggers are already bleeding over with their back-handed cope comments. I'll pray you don't kill yourselves once the four years of renewed economic prosperity starts.

 

[Liquid Merlon]

Harness the memes… praise Kek

 

[Dr J]

I'll pray you don't kill yourselves once the four years of renewed economic prosperity starts.

I wouldn't pray too hard

 

[Back me up!]

Some dude took the trolling of the postcard to Harris supports (aka thanks for voting for Harris, here's your illegals to house) to real life:

People start melting the fuck down almost instantly.

 

[MetokurGroomedMe]

oh would you look at that. polymarket is suddenly surging for trump again a day before the election.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

I cannot envision myself being anywhere but here, in the US. It’s all I’ve known, and nationally, all I’ll ever love.

It’s culture, history, tradition (despite my parents will/wishes), and my upholding, and support in them made (and still makes) me American. (After being born here of course.)

At least, that’s what I believe. Sure, I acknowledge my ethnic heritage. But to me, aside from its existence, it’s irrelevant.

I will die on that hill. No matter what anyone else says.

And if this country falls the fuck apart, I’ll do whatever it takes to restore it to what the Founding Fathers intended.

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I owe them at least that much for what they gave me. Whether that was intended, or not. I still owe it to them. Sorry if this sounds like a fedpost, just wanted to air things out a bit. Christ be with us all this Election Day, we’ll need him either way.

I will die on that hill with you, brother. God bless the USA and death to all Marxists.

 

[Catboy Ranch]

Some dude took the trolling of the postcard to Harris supports (aka thanks for voting for Harris, here's your illegals to house) to real life:




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People start melting the fuck down almost instantly.

this was like when the 2 based people in Martha's Vineyard (likely also the lowest income residents) were trashing the Facebooks of white karens moaning about how they were so grateful they were culturally enriched before the ferry came over with the empty buses to deport their brown asses back to the mainland

 

[Xarpho's Return]

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Guys. It's over. We lost the gay spic fed vote.

Nick's relationship with women is...complicated, I'd say. Imagine this particular scenario playing out:

Nick Fuentes sat in his room mid-November. Trump had won handily, but he was not part of it. He was getting old, ugly, and forgotten. He had no Thanksgiving or Friendsgiving to look forward to, it was only Banquet meals.

His depression was broken a second with a knock on the door. It was Vice President Kamala Harris dressed in a t-shirt and pants, carrying a bag. "Hey, Mr. Fuentes, can I come in? I'd like to do a 'campaign event' with you." While her voice sounded a bit like a cheese grater was being taken to Fuentes' ears, he was stunned and let her in. What was he doing? Letting a WOMAN into his depression nest? Letting the Vice President in, of all people?

She quickly dashed off to the bathroom, leading him to wonder if what he saw was simply an illusion. Seconds later, she emerged wearing a black leather leotard that showed off her mixed-race breasts quite nicely. She was also carrying a whip. "Sit down and take off your clothes, you bad, bad boy." Nick did was he was told without question. His brain and his penis seemed to be on different wavelengths. One of them was just stunned, one was very excited.

The next hour would be the greatest thing that Nick had ever experienced. There would be no Twitter posts about it, no media press. It was a secret, forbidden love, and one would neither soon forget.

 

[BigGuyOS 6 : Jovial Janny]

oh would you look at that. polymarket is suddenly surging for trump again a day before the election.
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Why wouldn't you buy the dip if you're a Trump supporter?

 

[TJT]

This is my biggest concern. How big is the fraud going to be, and will the courts do anything about? Or will the Democrats scare up as many fake votes as they need to flip the Rust Belt again and we'll get told to piss off via standing & laches?

They just need to increasingly push the narrative that it is neck and neck no matter how it is in reality. That way they can push 1% fraud where they need to and get over the finish line. This also "pre-bunks" and manufactures the historical narrative. Which would then be solidified via the education system.

If 2020 is our indicator they need about 72 hours of media blitz to hold on their victory. Then they win.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

Would the count even extend that far??

Doubtful (unless they decide to take the "out in the open" approach with cheating). That's why the early voting strategy has been the right strategy.

 

[Coptakhenaten]

I saw it mentioned before but even the establishment doesn't want Harris to win. That makes her potential victory even more terrifying to me because this is a woman with no tact or stratagem and I could see her sicing secret service and FBI on her critics both the left and right. Is it a retarded idea for her to do? Yes, but this is Kamala Harris, every week she finds a new substratum of stupidity. She is no Clinton, she is unsubtle about how powerhungry and retarded she is.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

What is the DC rag of repute rolling out the day before the election? Why, it's more January 6 fearmongering, of course (archive).

"GOP primed to back Trump if he contests election" by Alexander Bolton, 11/04/24 6:00 AM ET

The Republican Party is now more primed to back former President Trump if he contests the results of the 2024 election than it was four years ago, when his efforts to overturn Joe Biden’s victory fell flat in courts and Congress.

Trump’s unwavering claims about the nation’s election system being “rigged” have steadily gained more acceptance among rank-and-file Republicans voters over the past four years and his biggest Republican critics in Congress have either retired or will retire soon or have lost sway.

Additionally, Trump allies around the country have worked to gain more influence over state and local election boards, which will be in charge of tallying votes and certifying the results.

Republicans are feeling increasingly optimistic that Trump will win the election, but they are girding for an intense battle if Vice President Harris is declared the winner.

“The strength of the cult of Trump amongst voters is strong so members are reflecting what their constituents want them to do,” said a Republican strategist and former Senate leadership aide.

“The other angle is there are a lot of concerns about how elections are being conducted and the power of social media and our partisan news,” the strategist said. “Republicans watch a lot of Twitter and Fox News and they see voting irregularities,” pointing out a recent Detroit News report that a Chinese citizen attending the University of Michigan voted illegally by absentee ballot and election officials weren’t able to retrieve it.

Four years ago, Trump’s claims that Joe Biden and his allies “stole” the election struck many Republicans in Washington as outlandish, though most of them extended him the courtesy of letting Trump pursue his claims in court, where they failed.

This November, the political landscape is dramatically changed.

John Ullyot, a Republican strategist and former Senate aide and Trump administration official, said GOP lawmakers and voters have become much more focused on “election integrity” since Trump left office.

“Election integrity is a top-of-mind issue for Republicans after the 2020 election and that is even more so going into 2024, because they’ve seen this before and they want to make sure we have a free and fair election,” he said.

Ullyot said the Republican National Committee has deployed an army of poll watchers around the country to assist in contesting any results Trump’s team views as suspicious.

“The steps being taken on the ground directed out of the RNC are critical — they’re way bigger than they were back in 2016 or 2020,” he said. “These are the poll watchers and lawyers who are mobilized on the ground from the Republican National Committee.

“The Republican Party as a whole is focused on maintaining election integrity unlike they’ve ever done before because they’ve seen what happens what happened four years ago and they want to make sure there are no questions about the integrity of voting this time around,” he said.

“That’s critical not only for the presidential race but senators realize it’s critical for winning control of the Senate. … The Senate is 100 percent aligned with the rest of the party, even more so when it comes to ensuring a fair vote in the swing states,” he added.

An Associated Press/NORC poll conducted in late July and early August found that Republicans are likely to trust Trump’s claims about the election results more than they trust the conclusions of state and local officials.

The survey found that about two-thirds of Republicans would trust Trump’s campaign to provide accurate information about the election results while about half said they would trust the officially certified results.

Nine in 10 Democrats, by comparison, said they would trust the certified election results.

Furthermore, only 31 percent of Republicans say that President Biden was elected legitimately, a substantial drop from the 39 percent of Republicans who said so in 2021, according to a Washington Post/University of Maryland survey published in January.

A Pew Research poll published last week found that only 57 percent of Trump supporters believe the election will be run well and only 30 percent of Trump supporters feel confident that ineligible voters will be prevented from voting.

When Trump claimed the presidential election was stolen in 2020, many Republican lawmakers in Washington viewed the idea as suspect, especially in the Senate, where the GOP leadership worked hard to defeat the effort to block the certification of Biden’s victory.

Senate Republican Whip John Thune (S.D.) famously declared in December of 2020 that efforts to block the certification of Biden’s victory would “go down like a shot dog” in the Senate.

GOP aides say Thune, who is running to become the next Senate GOP leader and needs the votes of Trump allies, won’t be nearly as outspoken this time in opposing efforts to contest the election, should they arise.

“It’s hard to see that type of triggered response,” said a Senate GOP aide, who recalled that Thune’s declaration earned Trump’s wrath and later prompted Trump to call for Thune to face a primary challenger in 2022.

But the aide noted that when Thune said that in 2020, it “seemed perfectly reasonable” at the time, as the vast majority of Senate Republicans didn’t take Trump’s claims of a stolen election seriously in December of that year and the following January.

Trump-backed proposals to reject slates of electoral votes from Pennsylvania and Arizona in 2021 failed resoundingly in the Senate by a vote of 92-7 and 93-6, respectively. They had more support in the House, where 138 Republicans voted to object to certify Pennsylvania’s electors and 121 of them voted to object to Arizona’s electors.

But the Republican conferences in both chambers have since become more conservative and more closely allied with Trump — and one of Trump’s biggest private critics among Senate Republicans, Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), is stepping down from his leadership post at the end of the year.

A second Senate Republican aide said Trump’s unsubstantiated claim of widespread election fraud “has been normalized” among Republican lawmakers on the Hill. But the aide pointed out that Congress passed the Electoral Count Act at the end of 2022, which raised the threshold for lodging an objection to a state’s electoral slate, now requiring at least one-fifth support of both the Senate and the House to advance it.

The bill, which was spearhead by Senate Rules Committee Chair Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.) and Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine), also identifies each state’s governor as responsible for submitting certificates identifying its electors and requires Congress to defer to slates of electors submitted by a state executive pursuant to the judgments of state and federal courts.

The Senate Republican conference has changed substantially since December of 2020, as several of McConnell’s closest allies — traditional Reagan-Bush Republicans who were not big fans of Trump — retired. These departed old-school Republicans include former Sens. Lamar Alexander (Tenn.), Roy Blunt (Mo.), Richard Burr (N.C.), Rob Portman (Ohio), Pat Roberts (Kan.) and Pat Toomey (Pa.).

They have been replaced with MAGA-allied Republicans such as Sen. Bill Hagerty (R-Tenn.) and Sen. Eric Schmitt (R-Mo.), whose names are being floated as potential Trump Cabinet picks; Sen. JD Vance (R-Ohio), Trump’s running mate, and Sens. Ted Budd (R-N.C.) and Roger Marshall (R-Kan.).

“JD Vance would look to [Sens.] Josh Hawley [R-Mo.] and Ted Cruz [R-Texas] and others who have led the charge in the past. It will be the same individuals who were willing to stand up and object during the last election who will be the ones in the Senate that will support the House efforts to object to electors,” said a second Republican strategist, who mapped out a likely scenario if Trump again contests the election results.

Trump says the only way he could lose would be if the election was “corrupt”; he has already accused Democrats of “cheating” in Pennsylvania.

The GOP strategist said Democrats are also hinting at filing their own challenges if Vice President Harris loses, predicing chaos after Election Day if the contest is narrowly decided either way.

“It’s interesting that we’re already going down the same road” as 2020, the strategist said. “Both parties really need to step back from these efforts to overturn elections and look at the Electoral College as a proceeding where they have the power to disemfranchise whole slates of electors. …. It’s not good.”

Several Republican operatives pointed out that Democrats contested President George W. Bush’s victories in 2000 and 2004 and said that is empowering more Republicans to support such a challenge this time around, especially if Trump pushes it.

Of the seven Senate Republicans who voted to convict Trump for inciting insurrection on Jan. 6, 2021, only three will return to Congress next year: Sens. Lisa Murkowski (Alaska), Susan Collins (Maine) and Bill Cassidy (La.). Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah), one of Trump’s fiercest Senate GOP critics, is retiring at the end of this year.

In the House, only two of the 10 Republicans who voted to impeach Trump in 2021 are running for re-election: Reps. Dan Newhouse (R-Wash.) and David Valadao (R-Calif.).

Trump recently renewed his call for supporters to oust Newhouse, who is running against fellow Republican Jerrod Sessler, even though Newhouse has strong scores from the National Rifle Association and is solidly anti-abortion. They were the top two-vote getters in the Washington district’s all-party primary.

Trump endorsed Stressler and cited Newhouse’s impeachment vote in calling him out as a “RINO.”

Trump allies also have more influence over local election boards.

Reuters reported last month that nearly half of the election boards of the five largest counties in each of the seven battleground states have members who have expressed sympathy for Trump’s claims that the election is highly susceptible to fraud.

An 88-page report by the Center for Media and Democracy, a progressive nonprofit watchdog group, found evidence that state election officials in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, New Mexico, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin have previously denied the legitimacy of the 2020 election or have spread false claims about voter fraud.

 

[Catboy Ranch]

Emerson has laid their cards down on the table. Trump sweep.

 

[barrow greeter]

Emerson has laid their cards down on the table. Trump sweep.

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even still, some of those margins (in traditional red states no less) are sphincter clenching

 

[StarkRavingMad]

I saw it mentioned before but even the establishment doesn't want Harris to win. That makes her potential victory even more terrifying to me because this is a woman with no tact or stratagem and I could see her sicing secret service and FBI on her critics both the left and right. Is it a retarded idea for her to do? Yes, but this is Kamala Harris, every week she finds a new substratum of stupidity. She is no Clinton, she is unsubtle about how powerhungry and retarded she is.

I think that The Obamas definitely want Harris to win.

She's been part of their "in" group for almost a decade now. There is no doubt in my mind that Biden "choosing" her as his VP four years ago was all Obama's doing, since they know that she'd never win through a primary process (as we've seen already).

If Kamala loses tomorrow, the Obama Machine and Legacy will be dead. Let's pray that this happens, because Trump's track record of ruining corrupt political dynasties has been pretty awesome to watch.

 

[I Hate The Disabled]

What's everyone eating for election night? I'm gonna be eating Korean BBQ chicken, and washing it down with soju and Stella

 

[Meat Target]

"GOP primed to back Trump if he contests election" by Alexander Bolton, 11/04/24 6:00 AM ET

Because how dare you challenge an election via the proper legal channels, instead of doing as you're told and surrendering.

 

[Sammich]

I want to know your opinions on the Silk Road guy. If you think he should be set free.

Spoiler: Looooong

Because, quite frankly, I don't. I went on Silk Road when it was still up because I was genuinely shocked that somebody would think it's a good idea to set up an online shop for hard drugs and I had to know if it was true. It's not like they were just selling weed on there. You could buy heroin, bathsalts, cocaine, meth, etc. Literally anything you can think of. These are life destroying drugs.

Every argument I see pro-freeing him is literally the "He's a good boy. He dindu noffin' wrong." argument. They'll argue he didn't actually sell the drugs. He just ran the store that sold the drugs. Which isn't an excuse. If I buy a warehouse and invite a bunch of drug dealers to sell there, even if I'm not directly involved in the buying and selling, I'm 100% responsible for drug dealers selling drugs in my warehouse. Especially if I'm taking a percentage. The entire point of the Silk Road was to facilitate the trade of illegal goods via crypto.

I've even had loberts claiming Amazon and Ebay wouldn't be held responsible for selling drugs. Which they would if they were knowingly facilitating the sale of them. Not just some slipping under the radar in disguised listings. They do active moderation to keep drugs off their sites. They'll also report you to authorities if they catch you. One even tried to argue to me that heroin isn't a life destroying drug.

Play stupid games win stupid prizes.

I think he should be freed, and I hope he is, but honestly, I don't care much one way or the other about the guy. For me, it comes down to a similar thing with KF. I don't think a dude (null/ross) should be blamed or bare any sort of guilt for what people using KF/The Silk Road does. It's really that simple to me!

Him and Richard Spencer are such glowie faggots.

Counterpoint: what serves trump more, these two poison pilled faggots supporting kamala (lol) and getting ignored basically, or supporting trump and getting attached to trump.. I don't think anyone really cares one way or the other about the guys, they will drive no votes to kamala. I think Richard is smart enough to do that, but Nick just doesn't seem to be.