US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Your Girlfriend's Dad]

Some of the best posters in this thread like starkravingmad and DMG are women. Women are excellent to this thread and site, I wouldn’t mind if pointless incel ragebait threads are removed or at least laughed at for the stupidity they are, but I also have to say that some radfems from the man hate containment thread will pop up and start shit for no reason and the thread just becomes shitflinging from then on out.

I genuinely hope that Trump wins and that men and women stop this useless middleschool arguing. Laugh at lunatics who spend all day seething over the fact that they can’t get laid or married, and focus on being a better man/woman and being better to each other.

Is DMG a woman?

Hey @Diana Moon Glampers, Clam or Sausage?

But yes, I agree.

 

[Frederica Bernkastel]

I already agree with Null that there’s no point to voting at this point, the wrong people have to much control and the masses that could stop them are to retarded to do anything. I only voted because to many people told me I’m not allowed to complain if I don’t vote. Now I can bitch and moan all I want to those faggots!

I agree with Null to a point. If you're a Democrat, you shouldn't vote if you live in a swing state. Just move to California, New York or Massachusetts.
If you're Republican, you should only vote if in you're a swing state, and a red state to make policies that keep certain people away. Republicans should move to swing states and vote accordingly.
The best politics are the ones of exclusion.

 

[Null]

Why do you think principles like free speech and commerce would be more likely to be preserved if people abandoned democracy?

We do not live in a democratic country. Even if the system worked and votes counted, the system has no safeguards and one party is literally importing foreigners with the intention of naturalizing them because 90% of them vote for that party. Demos means 'people of the land', but the electorate of the United States is not people of the fucking land, so we do not live in a fucking democracy. Whatever you want to call it - a ZOG, Oligarchy, Ochlocracy, whatever - is a better description.

There are two things that no politician at any rung of government is allowed to talk about: the Federal Reserve and Israel. I watched the debates and when Israel gets brought up it's like a fucking joke. Two diametrically opposed candidates go from screaming at each other to a deepthroating contest in real time, accusing the other of not sucking it hard enough. Just amazing.

 

[Tsukasa Kadoya]

Stop. Replying. To Null.
Leave the man be.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

ADMINS HOLD THIS POST. Thanks, god bless.

now that I think about it there's a few Hat-grade wagers afoot, we probably need an updating tally

 

[Jimjamflimflam]

I already agree with Null that there’s no point to voting at this point, the wrong people have to much control and the masses that could stop them are to retarded to do anything. I only voted because to many people told me I’m not allowed to complain if I don’t vote. Now I can bitch and moan all I want to those faggots!

Disagree. Voting works but the problem is that voting is diluted to shit, for being treated as the sacred right of democracy its also fucking worthless.

To many nigger cattle with no stakes in the system that are easily lead by mass media on what to do.

Voting needs to be a right, won through trial. That trial being an exam, income level, land ownership or some other means that shows you have a vested interested in using your power of voting.

 

[Absolutego]

that has unironically been my thought for a few days, once the voot is over to start fresh (and shitpost about everything up to jan 20th)

That and you know that, no matter who wins, there's going to be a shitton of election denialism and lawfare from either campaign, and if we don't get a new thread this thing will probably be at 1400 pages by Thanksgiving.

We do not live in a democratic country. Even if the system worked and votes counted, the system has no safeguards and one party is literally importing foreigners with the intention of naturalizing them because 90% of them vote for that party. Demos means 'people of the land', but the electorate of the United States is not people of the fucking land, so we do not live in a fucking democracy. Whatever you want to call it - a ZOG, Oligarchy, Ochlocracy, whatever - is a better description.

The term you are describing is "Mass Democracy", and it may prove to be the end of the western world's 200 year flirtation with liberal governance.
Our era and the future Democrats are trying to import into reality is "three wolves and one sheep voting on what's for dinner" personified. Expanding the franchise was a mistake.

 

[Private Tag Reporter]

I wasn't going to comment on Null's position but I actually think it's completely defensible. He's been robbed of his constitutional rights and having a normal life because the system has fucked him over, to the point he's in hiding in some closet in a back-water country. Despite all that, he still works every day, with limited access to financial services, to keep the lights on and the forum operating the other 1460 days of the year than election day. Instead of putting faith in the ballot fairy, he keeps his nose to the millstone ooperating so that us retards can laugh at other retards the rest of the time.

I think the subtext of his post is that we shouldn't leave it up to the ballot box to secure our individual and collective rights, because at the end of the day it's all words on paper. If shit really does hit the fan, it's going to take more than filling out a bubble on a piece of paper to protect ourselves, our loved ones, and our country.

EDIT (to avoid off-topic slapfighting): Yes, I'm aware that Null isn't some most-wanted criminal. Rather I seriously doubt the capability for him to maintain a normal life domestically. I don't believe that he would be hired at any tech company, even despite his developed skillset, and I believe he's been denied banking services before. Threats on his life, whether perceived or real, notwithstanding.

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

If Kamala wins, Null troons out

Madam Kiwi

He's trooning out regardless. Too much estrogen oozing off of him.

 

[Dr. Ricearoni]

It probably should have been a new thread once election season started but now we'll need to settle for after all this.

I tried starting a thread but it never caught on and I forgot to update it (it still has biden in the op lmao)

 

[Vibralldo]

A Trump isn't just a victory against the Democrats, it's a rejection of the mainstream globohomo elites

Look who the Dems are pushing:

The Cheneys, Obamas, Clintons, Taylor Swift, Beyonce, and by voting against them, America is unanimously saying they're all shit and retarded

 

[Soycast Guy]

No kidding. Can we just let Josh have his opinion? It doesn't change how any of you guys vote or not vote; if it does you have major E-daddy issues and need to go on a fucking walk and touch grass.

I don’t personally care because he’s not in the US anyway. Plus he provides a site for me to sneed on, so I appreciate that. I really can’t go too hard on him.

But once again people here in the US who refuse to vote are faggots.

I agree with Null to a point. If you're a Democrat, you shouldn't vote if you live in a swing state. Just move to California, New York or Massachusetts.
If you're Republican, you should only vote if in you're a swing state, and a red state to make policies that keep certain people away. Republicans should move to swing states and vote accordingly.
The best politics are the ones of exclusion.

Once again, I live in a blue state and I still voted. No one has an excuse.

Disagree. Voting works but the problem is that voting is diluted to shit, for being treated as the sacred right of democracy its also fucking worthless.

To many nigger cattle with no stakes in the system that are easily lead by mass media on what to do.

Voting needs to be a right, won through trial. That trial being an exam, income level, land ownership or some other means that shows you have a vested interested in using your power of voting.

One big problem is the 19th. It only caused atomization among households. What in the hell is the point of essentially doubling the vote? Well, because it causes women to have a dissenting opinion from their husbands of course.

And women typically just have no clue what they are talking about politically. Too emotional.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

Another whitepill:
People are absolutely dumping their entire savings into Polymarket to keep Kamala above 40% odds (and failing).

For context here are the latest bets (red Donald means no, essentially the same as a yes Kamala I believe)

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This is the most retarded thing I have ever read. Who actually believes betting $100 on the Cowboys is actually going to help them win? I don't believe it. The betting markets thing is one of the last mysteries of this cycle to me. They haven't made sense in about a month.

 

[Looseleaf Paper]

Null was making me really really mad. I was about to reply and call him a cuck but instead I wrote a really nasty email and deleted it. I feel a lot better now.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

I'm at my gun store of choice and they're closed! I am completely felted. Trump better win

Ironically, that was what Null suggested, "don't vote, buy a gun"

Null's position on the J6ers is an exceptional individual opinion. A bunch of retarded people ignored what Trump said, and followed a glowie honey pot to give the Uniparty everything they wanted. They don't deserve what's being done to them, but throwing away everything that happened this year, and a lot of what happened leading up to it, isn't worth it

100% if Trump pardoned the J6ers, they would of impeached him, out of office, and made him ineligible to run in 2024. Maybe Supreme Court would of overturned that, but I wouldn't bet on it. I believe McConnell out right told him that.

They fell for the trap, Trump didn't. I hope they get justice, but hating Trump for not being stupid is absolutely glowie propaganda. (I'm pretty sure Fuentes takes that position if you want evidence).

I'm a black piller, I went to bed in 2020 thinking Trump had it in the bag, and woke up to 3 months of absolutely insanity, I'm not going to stop taking the black pill until January 20th, and I'm not going to take the White Pill until at least a few years in. But, if what's being promised about this administration plays out well in the next 4 years, looking back and taking the position that it all should of been thrown away to save the asses of a bunch of useful idiots that gave the other side everything they needed to completely destroy an opposition is going to be one of the worst takes in my life

Trump wasn't going to pardon the J6ers then because at the time the government had not charged with them with anything and pardoning would be an admission of guilt. Most of the show trials didn't even start until 2022, and since then 500 people have been incarcerated.

 

[Grug]

As this thread will be ballooning quickly, I humbly ask my fellow kiwis to stay in and vote rate good posts today. I'm counting on all of you to MAKE HIGHLIGHTS GRTEAT AGAIN

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

Null hasn't liked Trump ever since he threatened to nuke section 230 of the Communications Decency Act on his way out of office in early 2021. That's why we have a lolcow thread on Trump despite the usual "no politicians" rule.
I don't know why you guys are surprised by his opinion now.

I‘ve argued with him about this shit before and it’s a waste of breath. The J6 pre-emptive pardon is one of those things I never see happening. We’d see some broken jurisprudence overwritting it if it happened.

If you point to Nixon’s pardon as proof they could then I’d ask you to be Trump in my recreation of the Crooks shot. Nixon and Watergate was not about Nixon’s corruption.

 

[Chuck McGill]

You have to vooooooot, Mr. Antisemitic Internet Dog Man. If you don't voooooot then everybody on 9/11 like, died for nothing. please, oh racist internet dog, please, you just gotta find it in your heart get out there and vooooooooot

 

[Dr. Ricearoni]

He's been robbed of his constitutional rights and having a normal life because the system has fucked him over, to the point he's in hiding in some closet in a back-water country.

No, he lives there because it's cheaper. He's not like a wanted criminal or anything he can go back whenever he wants.

 

[Uncle Buck]

I wasn't going to comment on Null's position but I actually think it's completely defensible. He's been robbed of his constitutional rights and having a normal life because the system has fucked him over, to the point he's in hiding in some closet in a back-water country. Despite all that, he still works every day, with limited access to financial services, to keep the lights on and the forum operating the other 1460 days of the year than election day. Instead of putting faith in the ballot fairy, he keeps his nose to the millstone ooperating so that us retards can laugh at other retards the rest of the time.

I think the subtext of his post is that we shouldn't leave it up to the ballot box to secure our individual and collective rights, because at the end of the day it's all words on paper. If shit really does hit the fan, it's going to take more than filling out a bubble on a piece of paper to protect ourselves, our loved ones, and our country.

Voting, certainly, is not the end-all of participation, it's true. Voting is equivalent to attending Christmas Mass-attending Catholic who completely ignores their faith the rest of the time. Far too many Americans are both ignorant and fail to participate in any meaningful way.