2024 U.S. Presidential and State election thread - I'm gonna... I'm gonna... VOOT!!! I'm VOOOOOTING!!!

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this one puzzles me a lot
it's not surprising that muslims align more with R than D on most issues, but i thought the israel issue would overshadow all of that. trump is best friends with netanyahu, he's one of the most outspoken pro israel politicians on the planet, i would have expected that to make muslims hate his guts.

i guess many (including myself) have overestimated how much muslims in america care about foreign policy (israel) versus how much they care about everything else.
When both candidates are zionist Israel shills anyway they might as well vote for the one they align with more, who also doesn't insult their intelligence with virtue signalling claims they love Muslims while signing off on more money and aid to Israel. The Democrats also soundly rejected the wing of their side that's anti Israel and pro Palestine, the idea that further left people will push them away from Israel is pure cope.

In blue no matter who terms, they chose the lesser of two evils.
 
Activation word: Tuesday
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little scrote? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Queer Olympics, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Krispy Kreme, and I have over 300 confirmed Cinnabon kills. I am trained in keyboard warfare and I’m the top mod in the entire subreddit r/politics. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of simps across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can retweet you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed binge eating, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the local fetish store’s BSDM department and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking canceled, you fucking WHITE MALE.
 
Their movies and tv shows aren’t doing as well as they used to either. Not when they’re competing against random influencers, YouTubers, podcasts, and people waiting for movies to get to streaming instead of seeing them in theaters. This, on top of people just seeking out alternative media in general. It’s hard to make a propaganda machine effective when fewer and fewer people actually want to see said propaganda. Their only other option would be to fully regulate the entire internet, but they’re losing their grip on that too. People are also tired of celebrity worship, and it was demonstrated by most people not being very moved by any celebrity endorsement for Kamala. It’s glorious, but the CEOs won’t bother changing until more of the movies and tv shows keep tanking.
I've already spoken about celebrities, and there's more than enough talk about how mainstream media in general is regurgitated slop. However, not only is it getting too expensive (hence people looking for free media in the first place), it's all the same. The economy is making these companies more risk averse, of course, but the entertainment industry is notoriously incestuous. Even in indie parts. Behind all the cries for diversity, you'd find that these people all look, act, and think alike. So if you're starting to feel that those games and movies are being made by the same person, it's because they are. It's like Reddit and other echo chambers making them less aware of how people actually think; their output is resonating with "reaching" fewer and fewer people. You're cutting into your profits by making all your products for the same person- a smaller and smaller segment of the market.
 
rising prices of goods were arguably THE issue that turned away a lot of swing voters to Trump over the current administration
Goods produced in the US, and therefore exempt from tariffs .
That's just the fact of it, the global supply chain is so interwoven and so interconnected with this absurdly complicated web of trade that somehow keeps being functional, that any disruption of it could hurt every single american, just like what happened in 2022.
I've been screaming about the need to bring back manufacturing, and secure our supply lines, for a couple of decades. The fact Xi Jinping crippled the world economy with his failed Zero Covid policy, just proves my point.

That's all it took, a single chink so retarded he thought he could beat a virus for 3 years, broke the global economy.
 
Wishing literal death in a man who you’ve never met nor who has personally harmed you. And not just once or twice.

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Everybody else: Heh, same!
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Absolutely unhinged behavior. Hope they seethe for the next four years.
I sell magazines and newspapers as part of my job, and someone (I suspect a coworker, although I’ve also caught customers doing this) covering up the ones with Trump’s face. I retaliate by spreading them out as much as possible, or hiding them in places as a fun surprise!

Seriously, I can’t believe I was ever like this. I’m glad I was able to wake up and see reason, ironically it happened here on this alt-right hate site lol. But I know what happened to me was rare. Most people will refuse to admit they were wrong and just continue to stew in an echo chamber, unaware that they’re being manipulated. To be so sensitive that just seeing his face makes you rage, it’s crazy. One of my best work buddies has gone full deranged, we can’t have a conversation without her sperging about how Trump wants women to be raped and die in childbirth, and Project 2025. I had to set a firm boundary with her yesterday, shut the fuck up about this shit or don’t talk to me.
 
I found an article from The Hill that I thought the rest of you would find amusing.

"RFK Jr.’s new bully pulpit sends public health shock waves" (archive)
President-elect Trump’s promise to let Robert F. Kennedy Jr. “go wild” on health is demoralizing public health experts, who worry he could meddle with key government agencies, amplify vaccine hesitancy and direct agency funding to favor his preferred views.

Those include removing fluoride from public water, promoting a wide variety of unorthodox and unproven treatments and pushing a deep skepticism of pharmaceutical companies and the agencies overseeing them.

But with Trump’s victory, Kennedy could soon be in charge of those same agencies.

“FDA’s war on public health is about to end,” Kennedy wrote on social media shortly before the election, referring to the Food and Drug Administration (FDA).

“This includes its aggressive suppression of psychedelics, peptides, stem cells, raw milk, hyperbaric therapies, chelating compounds, ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, vitamins, clean foods, sunshine, exercise, nutraceuticals and anything else that advances human health and can’t be patented by Pharma. If you work for the FDA and are part of this corrupt system, I have two messages for you: 1. Preserve your records, and 2. Pack your bags.”

During a victory speech early Wednesday morning, Trump declared the country had delivered him and Republicans an “unprecedented mandate.”

That will mean big changes to health, starting with Kennedy.

Kennedy and Trump have been vague about what the former’s role could be, with Trump advisers and Kennedy mentioning agriculture as well as vaccine policy. There have been conflicting statements about whether Trump would put Kennedy in a Senate-confirmed Cabinet spot such as secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS).

In separate interviews with NPR and NBC on Wednesday, Kennedy said he wouldn’t take vaccines away from anybody. But he also repeated his criticism that health agencies haven’t done enough research on vaccines.

“We are going to make sure that Americans have good information right now. The science on vaccine safety particularly has huge deficits, and we’re going to make sure those scientific studies are done and that people can make informed choices about their vaccinations and their children’s vaccinations,” Kennedy told NPR.

Vaccines have been around for centuries, while modern vaccines have for decades protected hundreds of millions of Americans against diseases like measles, rubella, polio, meningitis and even the flu. Public health agencies like the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) have reams of results from clinical studies and real-world data showing vaccines are safe and effective.

Experts say there are institutional guardrails in place at federal agencies that would prevent some of the most radical changes from happening, like having vaccines pulled off the market. Pushback from courts, industry and Congress could temper Trump and Kennedy’s vision for radical changes.

But they are concerned Kennedy could still have an outsized impact.

“I worry greatly for the future of public health, environment and science in the next four years,” said Lawrence Gostin, a global health law professor at Georgetown University Law Center.

In his speech Wednesday at Mar-a-Lago — with Kennedy in attendance — Trump promised that Kennedy would “help make America healthy again” and that “we’re going to let him do it.”

First as an independent candidate for president and then as a surrogate for Trump, Kennedy has said federal health regulators are “sock puppets” held captive by industry special interests.

He told NPR his mandate from Trump was to get rid of “the corruption and the conflicts” at regulatory agencies, to “return the agencies to the gold standard” of “empirically based, evidence-based science and medicine” and to “end the chronic disease epidemic with measurable impacts” within two years.

There’s bipartisan interest in tackling chronic diseases, relying less on ultraprocessed food and working to eliminate artificial trans fats.

But there are doubts that Kennedy, who founded one of the most prominent antivaccine groups in the country and has promoted the debunked claim that childhood vaccines cause autism, will limit his focus to nutrition.

“Let me put it this way. RFK Jr. doesn’t have a track record in fidelity to science and evidence. Yes, we could work together across the aisle on ensuring that there wasn’t excessive fat, trans fat, sodium in our food supply, but … I’ll believe it when I see it,” Gostin said.

Kennedy vowed to purge entire departments at the FDA to root out corruption.

Attacking drug companies by completely overhauling the vaccine approval process would be a tall task, and the FDA won’t force companies to pull vaccines off the market unless they present a real public safety concern.

But Kennedy could still exert influence in other ways, like appointing Trump loyalists and vaccine skeptics to a key vaccine advisory panel at the CDC.

Those panel members are approved by the HHS secretary — who is picked by Trump — and make recommendations on vaccine policy. The recommendations aren’t binding, but they help inform coverage decisions from insurers.

A Kennedy-led HHS could also direct agency funding to antivaccine research or reduce funding for activities and research that he disagrees with. Congress funds the agencies, but leaders have discretion on where to direct that money.

“That’s the thing that I really worry about, that there’s just going to be such a heavy, heavy choke on any funding that they’re given … or that it’s going to be very, very targeted to only things that he might agree with,” said Saskia Popescu, an infectious disease epidemiologist and an assistant professor at the University of Maryland School of Medicine.

Even if Kennedy himself isn’t actively involved in making vaccine policy, his presence as a key insider can shape public perception. And he would have a bully pulpit to continue questioning vaccine science.

“I think the biggest risk of [Kennedy] is his mouth. You know, creating distrust or confusion with the [vaccine approval] process,” said Georges Benjamin, executive director of the American Public Health Association. “Vaccines have been such a controversial area, and there’s so many groups that he’s worked with over the years that have spread misinformation. I suspect if he says something that’s controversial, those groups will be poised to accelerate it, make it go viral.”

The federal government can’t make vaccine requirements, only recommendations. It’s up to states and local governments to implement them. Chrissie Juliano, the executive director of the Big Cities Health Coalition, said the federated system can add an extra layer of protection.

“The vast majority of public health authority sits at the state and local level,” Juliano said. “I think during the first Trump administration, we saw a number of more progressive jurisdictions, you know, fill in gaps, do the things they needed to do for their communities.”

Even with that extra layer, a CDC that’s hostile to vaccines can have a significant impact.

“I think what we could also expect is a de-emphasis, or change in … how the CDC provides recommendations on public health measures,” Kates said. “If those recommendations are not being made, or being watered down or changed, that sends a message to states, to schools, to parents, where we already see the effect of that.”
Oh, no! Those poor public health experts who fucking lied for years about COVID! Those poor pharmaceutical companies! Whatever shall they do, besides cope and seethe?

Even I think RFK Jr. is a kook about a lot of things, but is he wrong to say things like "the FDA's department on childhood nutrition is not doing its job when our childhood obesity rate is sky high"? I don't think that's a stretch.
 
Uhoh

Mitch is trying some last minute shenanigans. He wants to install his crony butt buddy Thule as the Senate Leader and he's calling for a election NOW, as in this Wednesday. And he's making the ballot secret so no one will know who voted for who.

Thule is basically Mitch 2.0 and is no fan of Trump. He will do Mitch's bidding once old Mitch steps down and this is something that needs to be avoided at all costs. Watch the Uni-Party spike Trump's first 2 years by making this fucker head of the Senate and he will delay all Trump's appointments, slow any bills and just generally fuck shit up for 2 years while the Uni-Party plots to deal with Trump.

This is bad news bro's
 
Uhoh

Mitch is trying some last minute shenanigans. He wants to install his crony butt buddy Thule as the Senate Leader and he's calling for a election NOW, as in this Wednesday. And he's making the ballot secret so no one will know who voted for who.

Thule is basically Mitch 2.0 and is no fan of Trump. He will do Mitch's bidding once old Mitch steps down and this is something that needs to be avoided at all costs. Watch the Uni-Party spike Trump's first 2 years by making this fucker head of the Senate and he will delay all Trump's appointments, slow any bills and just generally fuck shit up for 2 years while the Uni-Party plots to deal with Trump.

This is bad news bro's
We know, there's been doomering about it for about 20 hours.
 
Oh this is nice, the Reddit feminists have made their own prepper subreddit to prepare for their coming oppression
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It says a lot about these types that they think that literally every single other person is out to "get them" in some way.

You aren't that important folks. No one really gives a shit about you, people just want prices to go down and not be bombarded by woke nonsense that could cost them their job.
 
give it another week, the dems already stole the arizona senate seat and are doing it in PA next. by thanksgiving trump loses the popular vote and they redo the exit polls to show he lost with every demo besides white boomers and all is well in the democrat camp
Gallego was ahead in AZ THE ENTIRE TIME from the moment polls closed. What was there to steal?
 
Oh this is nice, the Reddit feminists have made their own prepper subreddit to prepare for their coming oppression
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Everyone already forgot the queer preppers in 2016/2017 who then burned bridges with the libertarians who took them to buy guns and taught them how to maintain and shoot them, lol. It's been only 8 fucking years.

Will we get RWDS this time?

I hope so lol.
 
Hey bro you were right- see the recent progressive freak who ended himself and his own family
I think I saw a thumbnail about that incident on /pol/ or twitter or it may have been on here. I can't recall, but I do recall I didn't read that morbid news.

Whatever the details of that incident...it definitely wasn't the only one and it also wasn't the first time either.
 
“We are going to make sure that Americans have good information right now. The science on vaccine safety particularly has huge deficits, and we’re going to make sure those scientific studies are done and that people can make informed choices about their vaccinations and their children’s vaccinations,” Kennedy told NPR.

Vaccines have been around for centuries, while modern vaccines have for decades protected hundreds of millions of Americans against diseases like measles, rubella, polio, meningitis and even the flu. Public health agencies like the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) have reams of results from clinical studies and real-world data showing vaccines are safe and effective.
Reminder that they changed the definition of "vaccine" multiple times so they can crowbar the Corona shots into them and they still don't fit. Just like how they changed the definition of "literally" so people like Rachael Maddow can have their defamation cases dismissed. That is what misinformation looks like-"pollution" that taints information around it. They hide behind things that work, real vaccines in this case, to slip in whatever they want. Fewer people are going to trust medicine in general because, well, how could you? If they're willing to twist information that's "been around for centuries," what else could they manipulate with?

Archived the case documentation.
 
Reminder that they changed the definition of "vaccine" multiple times so they can crowbar the Corona shots into them and they still don't fit. Just like how they changed the definition of "literally" so people like Rachael Maddow can have their defamation cases dismissed. That is what misinformation looks like-"pollution" that taints information around it. They hide behind things that work, real vaccines in this case, to slip in whatever they want. Fewer people are going to trust medicine in general because, well, how could you? If they're willing to twist information that's "been around for centuries," what else could they manipulate with?
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How did I never hear about this Rachel Maddow lawsuit over the meaning of the word "literally"?
 
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How did I never hear about this Rachel Maddow lawsuit over the meaning of the word "literally"?
They kept it hush hush I guess. Bad publicity. I only heard about it through YouTube comments on her recent election meltdown. Also fucking with words like "literally" is too useful for manipulation. If the truth can mean "literally" anything, then what is really the truth? What do words even mean? Who determines what words mean? It begs too many questions that certain people don't want anyone asking.
 
I sell magazines and newspapers as part of my job, and someone (I suspect a coworker, although I’ve also caught customers doing this) covering up the ones with Trump’s face. I retaliate by spreading them out as much as possible, or hiding them in places as a fun surprise!

Seriously, I can’t believe I was ever like this. I’m glad I was able to wake up and see reason, ironically it happened here on this alt-right hate site lol. But I know what happened to me was rare. Most people will refuse to admit they were wrong and just continue to stew in an echo chamber, unaware that they’re being manipulated. To be so sensitive that just seeing his face makes you rage, it’s crazy. One of my best work buddies has gone full deranged, we can’t have a conversation without her sperging about how Trump wants women to be raped and die in childbirth, and Project 2025. I had to set a firm boundary with her yesterday, shut the fuck up about this shit or don’t talk to me.

Absolute insanity.

I’d like to recommend a post full of Daily Kos lunacy that I posted here yesterday.

One of the DKers had some famous opthamologist he was going to, but recently had to quit going to him and had to find another doctor.

The reason? The doctor treating his eyes had Fox News in his waiting room, showing Trump all the time.

When the doctor (very understandably so LOL) goes: “Wait what does the TV in the waiting room have to do with your health?!” The guy goes “REEEE!!! It’s BAD for my health because it makes my blood pressure SPIKE!!”

I’m sure some Shitlib doc will make a paper about how Donald Trump has caused a spike in mortality among boomers.

FUCKING GOOD!

If you can’t control your emotions to the point where a TV in a public waiting room makes you go apeshit, you’re probably a milling stone around society’s neck.
 
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