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The Obummer food push didn't work because it pretended kids like herb roasted baked chicken, and other things that are made more for adults. Kids have developing palettes, and they will just not eat instead of trying things. And there's nothing wrong with that as long as it's not exclusively tendies for every meal. Kids like ketchup on hot dogs, as they age they like mustard and other toppings, t's just something normal.

So to just have simple rectangle pizzas, but made with real cheese, tomato sauce that is not 40% sugar, and pepperoni that isn't dog food reject level, this is good, this is better. Making food better is really a situation of just small changes here and there will have an immediate noticeably better effect cumulatively.
 
Donald Trump is the most voted individual in American history by far.
2016 primaries - 14,015,993
2016 general election - 62,984,828
2020 primaries - 18,159,752
2020 general election - 74,223,975
2024 primaries - 17,015,756
2024 general election - 74,834,220 (and still counting)

Total: 261,234,524
Total w/o primaries: 212,043,023

Talk about breaking records. What a time to be alive.
Milei is also the most voted president in Argentine history. Coincidence? I think not.

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Spicy times ahead of us, frens!
 
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Big Mike didn't understand basic food quality as a logistical challenge. High quality healthy food is expensive, which schools don't want to pay. So it had to be cheap, which is necessarily unhealthy. Combined with the lack of a free market in schools, Big Mike's bad food was something they had to eat. They couldn't avoid it.

It's actually a good object lesson in how Communism doesn't work as a market force.
Cheap food isn't necessarily unhealthy, especially when you're a school and can bulk buy. It's just far easier to eat unhealthy when it's cheap because it takes less effort and you don't have to think about choccy milk and doritos as opposed to planning out an actual meal.
Plus the nutrition guidelines (which schools have to follow) are retarded and also make eating unhealthy easier than trying to be healthy plus cheap plus follow restrictive guidelines which limit fat and whole milk etc.
 
"Could it be the endless demonizing propaganda, the sky high crime because of unchecked mass immigration, or maybe even pushing LGBTQ++ on kids? No! It has to be STARLINK!"

Don't you see? The reason people are against things like sky high crime, unchecked mass immigration and pushing LGBTQ++ on kids is because Starlnk is beaming HATE right into their brains! Elon is going to mnd-control the whole world using Starlink! Quick, get out those tin-foil hats!!!
 
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Big Mike didn't understand basic food quality as a logistical challenge. High quality healthy food is expensive, which schools don't want to pay. So it had to be cheap, which is necessarily unhealthy. Combined with the lack of a free market in schools, Big Mike's bad food was something they had to eat. They couldn't avoid it.

It's actually a good object lesson in how Communism doesn't work as a market force.
Real shit, a lot of people since then and even now have always dismissed gen z as being babies because school lunch was never good. Sure, sure, but before Mike, it was edible and sometimes there was something tasty on the menu. I remember how they changed the tacos under the obamas. The shells were soggy and weak and fell apart on contact, the meat was worse and they stretched it thin by adding beans. That was what forever cemented me as an Obama hater.

Well, who's being a big baby now, democrats? I hope your nursing home lunches taste awful.
 
I wish someone would explain to me why "tariffs aren't going to work" besides using the canard that "that's not how tariffs work".
You can't put a tariff on something that isn't made in the US and hasn't had the supply chain to be made in the US in 40 years and expect it to do anything other than raise prices.
 
The Obummer food push didn't work because it pretended kids like herb roasted baked chicken, and other things that are made more for adults. Kids have developing palettes, and they will just not eat instead of trying things. And there's nothing wrong with that as long as it's not exclusively tendies for every meal. Kids like ketchup on hot dogs, as they age they like mustard and other toppings, t's just something normal.

So to just have simple rectangle pizzas, but made with real cheese, tomato sauce that is not 40% sugar, and pepperoni that isn't dog food reject level, this is good, this is better. Making food better is really a situation of just small changes here and there will have an immediate noticeably better effect cumulatively.
The reason Mike's program failed is because the government looked at calories as opposed to nutrition. Most school food is processed and caloric. Rather than make kids better food, they gave them the same food, but a lot less of it.

Mikey wanted to make appearances and look trendy without doing real work.
 
I wish someone would explain to me why "tariffs aren't going to work" besides using the canard that "that's not how tariffs work".
Normally, the tariffs allegedly paid by the exporter are actually paid by the importer who passes it on to the distributors who then passes it on to the retailers. Normally. in the post trump era, China has been re-routing goods to south east asia with fake transit papers to avoid Trump's earlier china tariffs and the number of good re-routed to SEA increased under Biden. China's been shipping aluminum and steel to Mexico to avoid the tariffs as well. Trump is proposing a minimum 10% on everything which makes the future more uncertain. I'm going to guess medical/pharm manufacturing will be brought domestically or increased imports from india (7+ billion usd in 2023). Either way, there are ways to avoid the tariffs and with the shakey global economy and Chinese sabotage (banning export of drone batteries to US companies for example) the effect will be spread out enough for a minor impact on groceries. Your hvac shit is going to cost a lot more and be more delayed.
 
The Obummer food push didn't work because it pretended kids like herb roasted baked chicken, and other things that are made more for adults. Kids have developing palettes, and they will just not eat instead of trying things. And there's nothing wrong with that as long as it's not exclusively tendies for every meal. Kids like ketchup on hot dogs, as they age they like mustard and other toppings, t's just something normal.

So to just have simple rectangle pizzas, but made with real cheese, tomato sauce that is not 40% sugar, and pepperoni that isn't dog food reject level, this is good, this is better. Making food better is really a situation of just small changes here and there will have an immediate noticeably better effect cumulatively.
I'm not sure about kids being as picky as people think they are. Yes they like sweets, have little impulse control, and enjoy junk food. But in plenty of cultures kids eat largely the same as the adults do. At most they'll complain about the vegetables because kids are more sensitive to bitter tastes (they're not just exaggerating, it's a developmental thing).

I've prepared food for my "picky" nieces and nephews and as long as it doesn't taste like shit they never complained and ate up without issue after being told I don't have nuggies. Some stuff they didn't like as a matter of preference but that's normal for adults too.

These are kids who eat cereal, trendies, kraft Mac n cheese, etc at home because "they're kids so they're more picky". And will whine to my sister about not liking whatever before having tried it.

Likewise when I was growing up everyone ate the same dinner. Kids did not get separate food. There wasn't anything I didn't really like except for saurkraut and sausage which I still think is pretty gross except for maybe once a year. And black eyed peas on new years - also gross.

Other than that I just ate normal ass food. Turkey with tomato and rosemary, pot roast with potatoes, homemade pizza, some sort of meat with a vegetable and corn or potato, Indian curry. Scrambled eggs or omelettes, sometimes pancakes.

Dessert was rare. Candy and junk food were for family movie nights. I didn't mind either. It was was mainly when I was a preteen under my dad's influence that I started eating more fast food and treats. Of course I didn't complain, but even then I didn't complain when we had normal dinners at home.

However I think having familiar but higher quality (full fat dairy, whole food, no seed oils, no added sugars) versions at school would be a fine compromise. They also shouldn't be giving desserts every single lunch. Many schools give cookies, etc, at lunch from what I hear from parents I know. It's nonsensical and completely unnecessary.
 
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