Olympus Spa vows to take anti-Trans discrimination case to Supreme Court

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A spa in Lynnwood, Washington, has gained national attention following lawsuits regarding discrimination against Trans women. In May 2020, Transgender woman Haven Wilvich called Olympus Spa in Lynnwood to inquire about a visit. The spa informed Wilvich that because she is a Trans woman, she would not be allowed to partake of the spa's services. She then reported the business to the Washington State Human Rights Commission.
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Olympus Spa has been in business for more than 20 years. It is known for "Jjimjilbang"— a Korean-inspired wellness facility for women that requires nudity in certain areas of the spa. The spa contains a communal bath area with multiple whirlpool tubs, a traditional Korean body scrub service area, standing and seated showers, a steam room, and a dry sauna.

The WSHRC threatened spa owner Sun Lee with a lawsuit. Lee claimed that the business held a "biological women only" policy because the spa requires nudity in certain areas to which children as young as 13 have access.

The WSHRC offered Lee a settlement so long as he agreed to change the company's policy, noting that it violates Washington state's anti-discrimination laws. Lee signed the settlement in September 2021 but returned with his lawsuit just six months later.

Lee counters with his own suit
In his federal lawsuit, Lee claimed the settlement violated his first amendment rights to free speech and religion. He claimed that his spa had lost business after some patrons had seen "male genitals" and no longer felt safe. He also claimed that including Trans women at his establishment went against his Christian beliefs.

On June 5, the Western Washington District Court dismissed Lee's case. They ruled his rights were not violated. Dissatisfied with the ruling, Lee's lawyer has said they plan to take the case to the Supreme Court.

"My client is a traditional Korean spa, they are Christian, and their clientele are all women and they always have been," said Lee's attorney, Tracy Tribbet. "Part of [the spa's] process is nudity. It's not optional nudity, it's not you-have-a-towel-around-you nudity, it is a bona fide requirement, and it's part of the service."

"We feel that will give us the greatest opportunity to appeal this up to the US Supreme Court," Tribbet continued. Part of the spa's ongoing argument is that Wilvich purposefully filed the suit before receiving gender-affirming surgery. They also argue that the business should be allowed to discriminate against Transgender women because the spa was previously allowed to "discriminate against men."

"This is just [an excuse] for individuals who are mentally ill to come in and take advantage of a situation where women are vulnerable," Tribbet continued. "When you go and pay for the exclusivity of women's company, that's what you expect. This would be ruinous to the business of Olympus Spa and tantamount to a taking by the state because it changes the entirety of its business structure."
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The community protests
Following the District court's ruling, a group of Trans exclusionary radical feminists planned a protest outside the spa's Lynnwood location. On Saturday, June 17, around 50 members and supporters from Sovereign Women Speak, Gays Against Groomers, and Washington Three Percenters gathered in Lynnwood to express their disdain for the court's ruling. The three groups appeared to be working together to lead the protest while members of additional anti-Trans organizations surrounded them with transphobic signs and cheers.
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The anti-Trans protesters were met with twice as many counterprotesters. After the news that the right-wing organizations were to host a demonstration broke, pro-LGBTQ+ activists from across Seattle came together to show support for the Trans community. The supporters included those from Radical Women and National Mobilization for Reproductive Justice.

"What's going on right now is extremely dangerous and clearly connected to outright racist groups, with the Three Percenters using supposed defense of women to hide their agenda," Helen Gilbert, a member of Radical Women, said. "It is crucial for feminists — and really all people — to not let them use our name."
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One Trans woman protesting on the scene noted there are many issues with accepting only Trans people who are able to receive surgery. "It's not like every Trans woman can get surgery or even wants surgery," she said. "Where else would I go? If I want to go to a spa, it would be kind of weird to go to the men's section," she added.

In anticipation of the protest, Olympus Spa closed for the day, boarded up its windows, and hired private security. Police were on the scene and stood between the protesters and counterprotesters.

Following the release of legal documents that included her name, Wilvich says she has received hate mail and death threats from people around the world. "It's still disappointing to see the amount of animosity that goes towards our community every time these laws are upheld," she told Fox 13. "I think minority people who report hate crimes and violations of human rights laws should be protected from public discourse," she said.

Wilvich did not attend the counterprotest. She plans to continue celebrating Pride with her wife as peacefully as possible.
 
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I grew up in the 80's and saw my dad, a lifelong republican become a Clinton voter because the GOP was being run by the Christian right pushing social wedge issues. I would have never believed I would some day see the roles reversed.

In the 90s, Democrats pulled the wool over people's eyes with the testimony of John Money. In the 70s, it was Walter Breen. In the 50s, it was the "unjust" prosecution of Alan Turing. When are people going to learn that faggots are psychopathic pederasts who will make up any lie to justify their monstrosity? The 80s Christian Right were just smart enough to be ahead of the curve.
 
In May 2020, Transgender woman Haven Wilvich called Olympus Spa in Lynnwood to inquire about a visit.
What kind of dumbass name is that?

In his federal lawsuit, Lee claimed the settlement violated his first amendment rights to free speech and religion. He claimed that his spa had lost business after some patrons had seen "male genitals" and no longer felt safe.
Another pervert exposing himself to women and girls for a cheap sexual thrill.

One Trans woman protesting on the scene noted there are many issues with accepting only Trans people who are able to receive surgery. "It's not like every Trans woman can get surgery or even wants surgery," she said. "Where else would I go? If I want to go to a spa, it would be kind of weird to go to the men's section," she added.
"I want little girls to see my penis." Seeing a mentally ill sexual deviant like that in a men's or women's locker room would be "kind of weird."

"What's going on right now is extremely dangerous and clearly connected to outright racist groups, with the Three Percenters using supposed defense of women to hide their agenda," Helen Gilbert, a member of Radical Women, said. "It is crucial for feminists — and really all people — to not let them use our name."
Feminists are destroying safe spaces for women and allowing dangerous fetishists access to vulnerable women and girls. This is how we ended up with hulking man-beasts knocking out women in women's boxing and MMA.
 
"Some trans women can't afford or don't want to get surgery"
Then you're a fucking man

Shockingly, wanting to be someone else because you can't accept how you were born takes fucking effort.

And even then you'll still be a fucking man, no matter how "passable" you look. Wasn't surprised when I saw the pic of the troon in question, he was told to fuck off because he's a dude, not trans.
 
The case that will be called "We don't allow our female customers to see girldicks so shove it up your ass and go to a gay spa". Just a funny sidenote in Berlin the Green party proposed to have women only subway wagons because secual harrassment has skyrocketed in the city (care to guess why?). Just wait until the first trans woman demands to enter this cab and then starts to harass real women
 
I hope the SC takes the case and Korean wins.

Also, I wish they argued these cases like, "We have our services for women only, and people who think they're transgender women are actually men who commit sex crimes at a higher than average rate."

I feel like the idea that trans women are women really hasn't been challenged in court enough.
 
The 80s Christian Right were just smart enough to be ahead of the curve.
the fundies I once laughed off and dismissed were not just right, their predictions of moral decay did not go far enough to the actual reality I saw in the years following gay marriage. Even the most fringe Westboro Baptist Church tier nigga could have predicted that we'd be chopping the body parts off of children and shit
 
Why do feminist vouch for trannies and muslims over protecting other women?

Does marxism hate women that much?
Yeah, it's really, really weird at this point. I know a large group of women who are so all in on TWAW that it's mind boggling. They are always shit-talking about men, with a number of them being 'bisexual' women who far prefer women except that they each amazingly just managed to fall in love with the one good man in the whole world and married him, but they'll totally marry a woman next if he ever dies or something. If anyone ever so much as mentions that ok, even if TWAW are really women deep down, some men will 100% take advantage of easy access to women's changing rooms, they will do everything they can to destroy your life.
As more and more truth becomes clear about the actually dangers of trans identifying men, they double down harder. As more comes out about how so many children's bodies are destroyed, they double down harder. These aren't completely unintelligent women but this is their religion and I don't think some of them can ever leave it.
 
I feel like the idea that trans women are women really hasn't been challenged in court enough.
In court, or anywhere else.

Remember, these lunatics think that anyone who claims to be a woman IS a woman.

The problem with that is, at that point, you may as well declare everyone a woman, because what's to stop you from declaring yourself a woman anytime it showers you with advantages?

We're already seeing that in sports and prisons and now spas. Why not for social initiatives? Why not for job applications? Domestic abuse shelters?
There is social utility for having strict and immovable definitions of what a woman is. And it's about time we reinforced that.
 
Did he pull the sci-fi approach to 'Witch Haven'?


This 'woman'.

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Like, never mind the Christian stuff, you HAVE A WOMEN ONLY SPA. You have a right to protect your customers from....this.
There was a quote from Simone de Beauvoir about how 'one is not born , but rather becomes a woman'.

I wonder if this is what she meant. LOL. Lmao even.
 
the fundies I once laughed off and dismissed were not just right, their predictions of moral decay did not go far enough to the actual reality I saw in the years following gay marriage. Even the most fringe Westboro Baptist Church tier nigga could have predicted that we'd be chopping the body parts off of children and shit
I mean if you take atheism to the logical conclusion of there being no God to judge your actions and no afterlife effected by those actions.
Why not do whatever you want if humans are just an animal?
 
I mean if you take atheism to the logical conclusion of there being no God to judge your actions and no afterlife effected by those actions.
Why not do whatever you want if humans are just an animal?
I have seen atheists try to spin this by saying “that just means we’re THE MOST ALTRUISTIC because we do things without looking for a reward.”
 
I mean if you take atheism to the logical conclusion of there being no God to judge your actions and no afterlife effected by those actions.
Why not do whatever you want if humans are just an animal?
acceptable terms, now see.... what I want to do is gas all trannies :)
I have seen atheists try to spin this by saying “that just means we’re THE MOST ALTRUISTIC because we do things without looking for a reward.”
their idea of altruism is "vote for the government to do all the altruism for me". I've known a lot of altruistic atheists but they were never the kind to try and use their altruism to rub it in the face of religious people or something. The atheists that did so usually never did any charitable work themselves beyond voting for whatever lefty nut was on the ballot.
 
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