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Terrified friends burned to death in Tesla as electronic doors wouldn't open after crash​

The only survivor of the October 24 fire was a woman in her 20s who was able to get to safety after a quick thinking passer-by smashed a window of the burning Model Y car to free her​



The car burst into flames after hitting a barrier, four of the five passengers were unable to get out as fire engulfed the car (


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Joe SmithNews Reporter
  • 08:48, 12 Nov 2024
Four friends died in a horrific car fire after they were unable to escape from a burning Tesla when a crash disabled its electronic doors.
The only survivor of the October 24 fire was a woman in her 20s who was able to get to safety after a passer-by smashed a window of the burning Model Y car.

Four other friends, identified as 25-year-old Neelraj Gohil, his sister Ketaba Gohil, 29, Jay Sisodiya and Digvijay Patel all lost their lives in the incident.
Rick Harper, a Canada Post employee, heroically used a metal pole to smash the car window, freeing the woman. In an interview with the Toronto Star he told reporters she “couldn’t open the doors” from inside of the crashed Tesla.


One woman was saved when a passer-by smashed the window (
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“I would assume the young lady would have tried to open the door from the inside, because she was pretty desperate to get out,” Harper said. “I don't know if that was the battery or what. But she couldn't get out.”
He described how the woman, the only survivor of the wreck, scrambled out of the car head-first after he smashed the window. Harper said he did not know anyone else was in the car at the time, because the smoke was so thick.

He has no way to know if they too were trying to escape the burning car using the unresponsive doors in their final moments. Investigators are still working to determine the cause of the crash, which happened after the Tesla hit a guardrail at speed on Toronto’s Lakeshore Boulevard East.
In the US there are nine investigations involving the Tesla Model Y, ranging from “unexpected brake activation” to “sudden unintended acceleration,” according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.
Tesla boasts its vehicles gave a “safety-first design” and says its vehicles are “the safest in the world”. There is a manual override in Tesla cars but the feature is not widely publicized, experts say.
In the event of a crash passengers are directed to pull away a palen in the door and tug at a cable underneath to open the doors, but safety watchdogs have said dazed or panicked crash victims may not be able to search for the feature after a car crash.

 
So entertaining. Let your mind run wild with Indian faces melting as five differing personas of varying guilt, relations, and relatability take hold and play out a tragic end alongside one another as traffic and life pass them and their soon-to-be slow dramatic deaths to a stupid problem far out of sight and mind.
I would want to, but to repeat what has already been stated several times.

Why would I ever want to imagine the smell that goes hand-in-hand with that image?
 
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In the event of a crash passengers are directed to pull away a palen in the door and tug at a cable underneath to open the doors
Yeah, that’s a bit much. Remember that in airline crashes people try to use the belts like car belts, people panic. There should be a lever that’s obvious and easy.
You should always have a tool in your car for smashing windows easily. Do people not do that?
I do, yes, two of them front and back and taught the kids what to do with them - mine are in the door pockets, I guess if a car rolled they’d fall out… maybe I should Velcro them to the fuzzy panel ?
Remove your headrest and hit the window with the two metal rods that attach it to the seat.
I’ve heard that before but honestly, I couldn’t . Mine are impossible to get off, there’s a button to press with one hand while you pull up with your other two hands. You only have two hands? Tough. Pull up with one hand? Not possible, it just sticks.

I don’t fancy a Tesla, I don’t like the big laptop panel thing in the front, and I don’t like the full electronic stuff like this. They seem to have poor all round visibility (like most modern cars.) a lever to open the doors is indispensable. Pretty horrible way to go, burning to death inside a metal box. I am surprised this passed safety rules
 
wasn't there some talk about Elon making tesla windscreens as tough as humanly possible? Ironically enough something car manufacturers avoid otherwise you turn your car into a portable incinerator. Or was that only for the cybertruck? But then again, Elon is the most knowledgeable person regarding industry on the planet, according to him.

side note, there is a non-zero possibility that the jeets close family members personally wagecucked in some sweatshop to solder the electronics on the car. Just putting that out there
 
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It only gets that hot if the battery, you know, the power source, is on fire
Look... We install small steam turbine above the battery pack that kicks in when the battery is on fire, which will generate enough energy to power both emergency door unlocking and the bell to let surrounding people know that it's cooked

That Tesla looks really fucked up. Afaik they're sturdier than your average car, so it's must've been one hell of a crash.
 
Yeah, that’s a bit much. Remember that in airline crashes people try to use the belts like car belts, people panic. There should be a lever that’s obvious and easy.

I do, yes, two of them front and back and taught the kids what to do with them - mine are in the door pockets, I guess if a car rolled they’d fall out… maybe I should Velcro them to the fuzzy panel ?

I’ve heard that before but honestly, I couldn’t . Mine are impossible to get off, there’s a button to press with one hand while you pull up with your other two hands. You only have two hands? Tough. Pull up with one hand? Not possible, it just sticks.

I don’t fancy a Tesla, I don’t like the big laptop panel thing in the front, and I don’t like the full electronic stuff like this. They seem to have poor all round visibility (like most modern cars.) a lever to open the doors is indispensable. Pretty horrible way to go, burning to death inside a metal box. I am surprised this passed safety rules
I keep a pocket knife in my front pocket that has one of those hard window breaker things built onto it for just that reason. I don't want to fiddle around with buttons and contraptions and figuring out the best way to get a stuck headrest out in the handful of seconds I had to get out of the car. If it catches fire or goes in the river or is on the ledge or something, I want to get out NOW, not once I figure out how to do it.
 
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I keep a pocket knife in my front pocket that has one of those hard window breaker things built onto it for just that reason. I don't want to fiddle around with buttons and contraptions and figuring out the best way to get a stuck headrest out in the handful of seconds I had to get out of the car. If it catches fire or goes in the river or is on the ledge or something, I want to get out NOW, not once I figure out how to do it.
Those breaker things don't even work on newer cars. Ever since 2017, cars have been equipped with laminated glass.
 
I'm not on the tesla hate bandwagon like everyone else but I do not understand their obsession of going out of their way to eliminate everything manual to the point where it obviously compromises safety for no reason.
All my friends mock me for being like this but I agree. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. My boss got an electric car and can't stop gushing about it, but every time I speak to him the car has a new issue and because it's electric he can't take it to any random garage to get it fixed so he ends up having to wait months for a spot at a specialist garage that can work on electric cars.

I guess you could write this off as teething issues of emerging technology, but everything about electric cars seems like a fucking hassle to me. Give me some 1980s shitbox with a tape deck any day.
Remove your headrest and hit the window with the two metal rods that attach it to the seat.
What is this, 1954? Those rods have now been replaced with USB-C connectors, and I hope you paid your monthly subscription to be able to remove the headrest, citizen.
 
At one time (technically still but some have backed off and all are likely unenforceable post-Bruen, etc.) several states had laws that said 'x months after a user-locked gun becomes available, all other guns become illegal for sale'. One of the main development paths for that has indeed been fingerprint guns.
Colt's fall from grace as a handgun maker can be directly tied to them pursuing "lock out" technology and "smart" guns that wouldn't fire in certain situations.

Even though their end goal was to create a situation where a user (like say, a police officer) couldn't be shot with their own gun?

And the methodology was not biometric, but, RFID-based, I think? It involved a fob like the kind on your car keys that you could wear/have in your pocket, and if the gun detected that fob was in front of the barrel? It wouldn't fire?

The public just absolutely eviscerated them. Not only because that would trigger some of those "smart gun" laws pre-Bruen but also because nobody asked for a gun that had an added failure mode that meant it might not fire when you want it to because of a dead battery bricking an otherwise perfectly functional weapon.


A little bit later on, Remington also sunk a lot of money into developing rifles with electric primers. Where pulling the trigger didn't drop a physical hammer, but sent an electrical pulse to the primer in the bullet. This was faster than traditional mechanical systems and powder primers that have to take a few fractional seconds to move and then burn and produce gas, etc. But the fractional gains of a light-speed trigger reaction wasn't worth the extra cost, fragility and failure-mode of dead batteries once again meaning a perfectly good gun with perfectly good ammo might not fire due to a failure in a system you added to the already-working device.

And it also ran afoul of the smart gun laws and the fact that nobody in the customer base had ever asked for this.

And with the nuts and bolts of the tech not well known? The label of "electric gun" made people suspicious that if it needed an electrical signal , then maybe that signal could be maliciously blocked? Or hacked? By the government? Was just too much of a hurdle.

It's no coincidence that both of these companies exited the civilian firearm market with destroyed reputations.

It's just a bad idea to introduce failure modes to tools that absolutely HAVE to work in emergencies.
 
This is why you should always have one of those window smashing hammers or alike in your car.
Keychain versions are available, often with an attached seatbelt cutter, and very useful. Always hit a bottom corner of the glass.

If you can't open your house windows all the way out so that you can step out of them, keep one handy by the window too in case of fire.

Being able to break a window can be the difference between safety and disaster.
 
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