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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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spread happiness@p4leandp1nk
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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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10:07 AM - Jan 3, 2019

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary


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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[isalaide]

I was just hoping someone would come up with the East 17 joke that I'm sure is there somewhere because whenever I read "Walthamstow" Stay Another Day starts playing in my head, and that's the literal opposite of the point of the petition.

Genuinely one of the greatest Christmas number ones ever. They had other bops but that's a genuinely brilliant piece of songwriting.

It was on the radio the other day (obvs) and it occurred to me it must be the single darkest Christmas number one we've ever had. No snowmen bringing the snow, no mistletoe and wine, but a song about Tony Mortimer's brother dying in the hospital after his successful suicide attempt.

And people thought the Mad World cover was a bit downbeat. Huh.

 

[the rat]

If it was bots, it would be an even spread, the likelihood of anyone programming the bots to think to not only avoid London postcodes but also those in nationalist areas of Northern Ireland, but to take a few more, but not too many, postcodes from DUP held areas, is minuscule. I don't think this can be dismissed as easily as Starmer would wish, tbh.

Not bots, actually misinformation spread to the idiotic masses who voted for brexit. They're so stupid that we have to tell them that we are doing a good job and dismiss their ill-informed opinions caused by Elon Musk's RIGHT WING disinformation platform.

I reckon it's going to be this but what are you all betting on?

 

[The Gene Genie]

Not bots, actually misinformation spread to the idiotic masses who voted for brexit. They're so stupid that we have to tell them that we are doing a good job and dismiss their ill-informed opinions caused by Elon Musk's RIGHT WING disinformation platform.

I reckon it's going to be this but what are you all betting on?

All of the above, and it will be dismissed completely on those grounds in conjunction with an all-hands media campaign to discredit the results. The question is: what will people do about it when the Government inevitably dismisses their demands? Arguably, one of the most effective tools could be a general national strike. But are there even people who could organize such a thing anymore?

 

[Overly Serious]

It was on the radio the other day (obvs) and it occurred to me it must be the single darkest Christmas number one we've ever had. No snowmen bringing the snow, no mistletoe and wine, but a song about Tony Mortimer's brother dying in the hospital after his successful suicide attempt.

Band Aid's Do They Know It's Christmas is the grimmest Christmas album the UK has ever seen. No, not because of the subject matter. But when you find out that nearly all the money they raised went into the pockets of African warlords. There's a black Christmas pill for people to swallow.

 

[AnOminous]

Band Aid's Do They Know It's Christmas is the grimmest Christmas album the UK has ever seen. No, not because of the subject matter. But when you find out that nearly all the money they raised went into the pockets of African warlords. There's a black Christmas pill for people to swallow.

Bob Geldof is a piece of shit. He was outright told up front that was exactly what was going to happen and he did it anyway, and bullied other people into participating in it at the risk of being seen as some kind of heartless bastard. If nearly anyone else had been handling it, at least SOME of the money would have gone to actual relief efforts instead of this dippy brainless feel-good scam to make Geldof look like some kind of hero instead of the dumb asshole he is.

Also the song itself sucked. Why the fuck would most Africans even care whether it was Christmas?

Also the Boomtown Rats blew on top of that. They had what, one good song, ever?

Never mind he raised his daughter so well she turned out a junkie and OD'd and died.

Just what an absolute empty suit of a man.

 

[HairyBadger]

Bob Geldof is a piece of shit. He was outright told up front that was exactly what was going to happen and he did it anyway, and bullied other people into participating in it at the risk of being seen as some kind of heartless bastard. If nearly anyone else had been handling it, at least SOME of the money would have gone to actual relief efforts instead of this dippy brainless feel-good scam to make Geldof look like some kind of hero instead of the dumb asshole he is.

Also the song itself sucked. Why the fuck would most Africans even care whether it was Christmas?

Also the Boomtown Rats blew on top of that. They had what, one good song, ever?

Never mind he raised his daughter so well she turned out a junkie and OD'd and died.

Just what an absolute empty suit of a man.

Charities that I have dealt with in the past have said perhaps 10 - 20 % of the money raised ended up in the right hands.

That was when I stopped giving to large charities.

 

[K!w!Fartz]

Charities that I have dealt with in the past have said perhaps 10 - 20 % of the money raised ended up in the right hands.

That was when I stopped giving to large charities.

Charities should just be fucking banned at this point.

 

[AnOminous]

Charities should just be fucking banned at this point.

Things like local food banks are usually pretty good and if you're donating after some disaster, do NOT donate to the big ones like Red Cross that already have plenty of funding and collect money on disasters while then spending it on something else. After 9/11 they had a huge blood drive and then threw most of it away because they had no way to store that much.

Utterly worthless organization.

 

[Overly Serious]

Bob Geldof is a piece of shit. He was outright told up front that was exactly what was going to happen and he did it anyway, and bullied other people into participating in it at the risk of being seen as some kind of heartless bastard. If nearly anyone else had been handling it, at least SOME of the money would have gone to actual relief efforts instead of this dippy brainless feel-good scam to make Geldof look like some kind of hero instead of the dumb asshole he is.

I knew very little of what you said about the guy himself. Or that his daughter became a junkie and died. That he was warned in advance what would happen is a fucking travesty on his part. I didn't know that. The events themselves are mostly before my time.

Also the Boomtown Rats blew on top of that. They had what, one good song, ever?

I'm guessing Tell Me Why (I Don't Like Mondays)? The song about the school shooter that the killer herself wrote to him thanking him for writing it?

The Tori Amos cover of it is vastly superior, imo. If it's something else you meant, I'm not sure what.

I'm pretty careful about what charities I give to these days and try to focus on smaller ones. The grift with many of them is depressing.

EDIT: Jesus, I just read about her. He made her go to school the day after her mum died. Fucking Hell.

 

[AnOminous]

I'm guessing Tell Me Why (I Don't Like Mondays)? The song about the school shooter that the killer herself wrote to him thanking him for writing it?

The Tori Amos cover of it is vastly superior, imo. If it's something else you meant, I'm not sure what.

Yes, exactly that.

Also here's the in-depth article on Bob Geldof's fuckery.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/jun/24/g8.debtrelief

https://archive.ph/OGZ3t

Yes it's from the Grauniad but for a leftie outlet to completely trash a darling like Geldof just shows how badly he fucked up.

The only thing he did well was his role in Pink Floyd's The Wall and even that is overrated and the double LP soundtrack album is maybe the worst Floyd album ever.

 

[HairyBadger]

Things like local food banks are usually pretty good and if you're donating after some disaster, do NOT donate to the big ones like Red Cross that already have plenty of funding and collect money on disasters while then spending it on something else. After 9/11 they had a huge blood drive and then threw most of it away because they had no way to store that much.

Utterly worthless organization.

Local charities only.

 

[The Gene Genie]

The only thing he did well was his role in Pink Floyd's The Wall and even that is overrated and the double LP soundtrack album is maybe the worst Floyd album ever.

Absolutely, completely, entirely, without a doubt incorrect.

 

[HairyBadger]

I knew very little of what you said about the guy himself. Or that his daughter became a junkie and died. That he was warned in advance what would happen is a fucking travesty on his part. I didn't know that. The events themselves are mostly before my time.

I'm guessing Tell Me Why (I Don't Like Mondays)? The song about the school shooter that the killer herself wrote to him thanking him for writing it?

The Tori Amos cover of it is vastly superior, imo. If it's something else you meant, I'm not sure what.

I'm pretty careful about what charities I give to these days and try to focus on smaller ones. The grift with many of them is depressing.

EDIT: Jesus, I just read about her. He made her go to school the day after her mum died. Fucking Hell.

Tori Amos is the better cover.

 

[AnOminous]

Absolutely, completely, entirely, without a doubt incorrect.

I don't even consider that a Pink Floyd album, though.

 

[Coolio55]

do NOT donate to the big ones like Red Cross that already have plenty of funding and collect money on disasters while then spending it on something else. After 9/11 they had a huge blood drive and then threw most of it away because they had no way to store that much.

Utterly worthless organization.

Also if you're a computer game developer: Make sure to use their gay red plus sign as the health symbol.

 

[The Gene Genie]

I don't even consider that a Pink Floyd album, though.

Trvke.

I like The Wall though, but I can't really stand Roger's nu-rendition of making his kinogem Mid-Life Crisis Double LP into some grand political statement on how Brazilians shouldn't get shot on the Underground.

 

[SirCliveSinclairdabbing]

I don't even consider that a Pink Floyd album, though.

Is Jabberwocky a monty python film?

Also, 1.8million on the petition now.

 

[the printer is outo fink]

I think the fact the petition slowed to a crawl from a bit before 11pm, more or less died over night, and is only starting to pick up momentum again now, is another big sign that it's mostly genuine and not a brigade generated by Elon. Though, obviously, that won't matter if the media go all out saying it's fake.

 

[Broadside]

I think the fact the petition slowed to a crawl from a bit before 11pm, more or less died over night, and is only starting to pick up momentum again now, is another big sign that it's mostly genuine and not a brigade generated by Elon. Though, obviously, that won't matter if the media go all out saying it's fake.

Oh they'll definitely begin the slimy "a petition has reached nearly 2M signatures, but in this age of misinformation can we really rely on these metrics?"

 

[Overly Serious]

Well we've passed two-million now. And it's over 5% in multiple consituencies. I welcome Kier Starmer, the farmer harmer, attempting to declare this is fake bots. Nobody will believe him. Right now, he's probably trying to figure out how to write Javascript that'll submit a fake petition so that he can point at it and say "See!"