2024 Syrian opposition offensives - The first Syrian rebel offensive against Government forces since March 2020

I see the simping for the moderate rebels continue.

Moderate and secular, like using chemical warfare on civilian populations, and torturing/raping and killing children that protest the government. Very moderate and secular wholesome chungus Assad. Only Isis would dislike this enlightened centrist government.

If its about the dead kids, why haven't these "rebel" lot done anything about the country right next door that put hundreds of babies right into the grave in the past year.
 
I see the simping for the moderate rebels continue.



If its about the dead kids, why haven't these "rebel" lot done anything about the country right next door that put hundreds of babies right into the grave in the past year.
They did, they didn't even protest when Israel bombed the shit out of those people
 
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These lot drop Christmas Trees.



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Moderate and secular, like using chemical warfare on civilian populations, and torturing/raping and killing children that protest the government. Very moderate and secular wholesome chungus Assad. Only Isis would dislike this enlightened centrist government.
Ah yes the bastion of unedited truth. Wikipedia.

I need details not citations. It's increasingly difficult to get any concrete analysis in any middle east related conflict that isn't cheerleading or finger pointing for one side or another.

I'm personally leaning towards the syrians because them gone leads to a worse power vacuum and another refugee crisis.
 
Moderate and secular, like using chemical warfare on civilian populations, and torturing/raping and killing children that protest the government. Very moderate and secular wholesome chungus Assad. Only Isis would dislike this enlightened centrist government.
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I said moderately secular, not peaceful and kind. The rebels do the exact same shit, except with extra Sharia, and they are not planning to stop at Syria. They previously invaded Lebanon from the border in 2017 and started clashes in the city of Tripoli (the one in Lebanon, not Libya
 

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Meanwhile Russian aircraft bomb hospitals and schools to show the Syrian population how much better their life is under Assad. Refugees are already returning to their homes in liberated territories, despite the regime's terror bombing and the danger presented by mines.

What is the legitimacy of a government that only survives due to foreign militants murdering its own citizens on its behalf?
 
This phenomenon is due to Salafi schools of Sunni Islam not seeing other non-Salafi muslims as 'ummah', which was once a very fringe belief (Salafism was once pretty much unique to the Najd, a big sandy shithole in Arabia). The British supported the rise of the House of Saud, which originally came from that region, and the overthrow of the Hashemites (who had rebelled against the Ottomans alongside the British and were more moderate/mainline Sunni). This was done because the Hashemites, the traditional rulers of Mecca and Medina, had stridently opposed the Balfour Declaration and the creation of Israel precisely because they saw the Palestinians as ummah, whereas the Saudis had no such scruples.

The Saudis then proceeded to then use the oil money which they generated to spread their batshit insane version of Islam throughout the Middle East, and we helped them as we saw the religious extremism as a counterbalance to the Soviets, while the Soviets typically backed more secularist regimes. Basically any terrorist that mounts an attack in the West against Western civilians is a Salafist; Shias for example tend to focus laser-like on Israel and to direct all of their attacks in that directions. This is why most people have no understanding of Middle East politics - Israel gets along quite well with the Saudis and they support each other on the down-low in many endeavors because the Saudis are very amoral when it comes to expending non-Salafi Muslim lives. The spread of Salafi extremism and terrorism serves Israeli/American aims because:

1. They destabilize surrounding stable secular regimes which are opposed to Israel

2. They counterbalance Shia, Iran-backed proxies and anti-Israel Sunni militants

3. The terror attacks which they launch in the West provoke backlash against Muslims in general and sympathy with Israel as 'an enemy of my enemy', even though Israel is more friendly with the terrorists which attack Western countries and more antagonistic towards those groups which do not

4. These groups extend Saudi influence in the region at the expense of Iranian influence and secular Ba'athist parties, both of whom the Saudis loathe intensely. Moderate Sunni governments, outside of Erdogan's Turkey, are functionally extinct in the Middle East as major geopolitical players

Turkey's motives are more mundane - it's literally a question of border security for them, due to both refugee traffic and the ever-present menace of breakaway, cross-border Kurdish groups.
 
I guess the SAA decided to forsake Aleppo province in order to fight in Hama instead since the jihadis now control the entire city and countryside

The Kurdish and Iraqi militia drive to Aleppo that never was, very sadge
 
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I guess the SAA decided to forsake Aleppo province in order to fight in Hama instead since the jihadis now control the entire city and countryside

The Kurdish and Iraqi militia drive to Aleppo that never was, very sadge
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the Kurds in the area, in all fairness, were either living too far west for comfort, or had stepped too far from their own frontier to protect the Aleppan Kurds, the others have been trying to hold their own against the SNA but its not looking too good beyond their main eastern frontier.

lots of conflicting information on the Iraqi PFF paramilitaries however, some telegram channels say they have no intention of crossing the border, others have apparent reports that there are units already advancing to the support of Homs.
its a little early to tell but I'll do what I can to find out.
 
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the Kurds in the area, in all fairness, were either living too far west for comfort, or had stepped too far from their own frontier to protect the Aleppan Kurds, the others have been trying to hold their own against the SNA but its not looking too good beyond their main eastern frontier.

lots of conflicting information on the Iraqi PFF paramilitaries however, some telegram channels say they have no intention of crossing the border, others have apparent reports that there are units already advancing to the support of Homs.
its a little early to tell but I'll do what I can to find out.
It makes more sense to defend Hama instead anyway, since taking Aleppo doesn't directly threaten Damascus, taking Hama and Homs would cut off Latakia and Tartus and make people freak out about Damascus. Not that I think the derka derkas are trying to go all the way to Damascus, that's kind of a long way away even if they managed to take Hama and Homs. Turkroaches may be dumb but they don't want to risk losing the derka derkas they've spent 5+ years building up by overextending them on a long north-south axis pointed at the capital
 
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