Orbiter 🏳️‍🌈🐱 Nick Fuentes / Nicholas Joseph Fuentes / der America First Pürrer / "Nick the Knife" - CatboyKami's ex. Flipped fed asset after January 6th. Groypers are pardoned for January 6th, still a fag. Kept Ali Akbar, brown muslim boy-hungry pedophile, around groypers knowing what he was. Hates white women more than blacks and jews.

How the fuck is it a “cope” for someone who hates Nick’s guts to pass on information from a reliable source? Either someone will do the legwork to find out if it’s true or not, IDC. My only hope is that Fuentes suffers a slow and painful death.
Fucking prove it then, I take everything these people say with a healthy dose of salt purely because they act in such a cultish manner. So far the only evidence I've seen regarding Nick's sexuality is video footage of him on a 10 hour date with a gay Australian.
 
This is where Pinesap, Classical Theist and Christian Wagner lose me. Nick will repeatedly say that he’s not a theologian and espouse social/racial/gender viewpoints not taught by the Church and they’ll twist themselves in knots to try to find orthodoxy in what he’s saying rather than correct him.

These same people will not extend nearly as much charity to Jimmy Akin or Trent Horn when they interpret a complex Church teaching in a manner they disagree with.
I agree, brother. Jimmy Aiken has done more to defend the faith and communicate the often complex and nuanced positions of The Church in a positive, digestible way than anybody affiliated with Nick or AF as a whole ever have or ever will. I'm a bit curious as to why the terminally-online Thomist types seem to be the most adamant in their support for Nick. Maybe it's because neoscholasticism lends itself well to autistic people (though as always, what St. Thomas Aquinas actually wrote and said is often quite different from the conclusions made by many his followers/the manualists) being able to argue their way to any conclusion through endless distinctions. I'm not sure. Any ideas?
 
I agree, brother. Jimmy Aiken has done more to defend the faith and communicate the often complex and nuanced positions of The Church in a positive, digestible way than anybody affiliated with Nick or AF as a whole ever have or ever will. I'm a bit curious as to why the terminally-online Thomist types seem to be the most adamant in their support for Nick. Maybe it's because neoscholasticism lends itself well to autistic people (though as always, what St. Thomas Aquinas actually wrote and said is often quite different from the conclusions made by many his followers/the manualists) being able to argue their way to any conclusion through endless distinctions. I'm not sure. Any ideas?
I don’t think I’ve ever seen Nick in recent years do any sort of apologetics or defense of the faith. By all metrics he’s an atheist
 
Valentina Gomez? That would be convenient, she already has a PG thread. I don't know of any other Hispanic women in that scene.

I find it hard to believe Nick would marry a non-white woman. He hates the idea of marriage except as a vehicle for having white kids. On the show he's been talking about how he wants an Italian wife, either Italian-American or from Italy.
Well he’s only half white himself, his fans don’t really care because the movement has long stopped being about white identity. “In the Court of the Optics King” was rather prophetic in its take on Fuentes, all the dirty laundry AF had at the start to avoid being labeled as fascist was all for naught, and Nicks own personal faggy hatred towards anyone who didn’t agree with him cost him dearly. Most of the people remaining at this point are retarded loyalists who will justify anything because Nick, who shilled for Zionist Jews to get in government, is inexplicably the only one who can stop ZOG.
 
Well he’s only half white himself, his fans don’t really care because the movement has long stopped being about white identity. “In the Court of the Optics King” was rather prophetic in its take on Fuentes, all the dirty laundry AF had at the start to avoid being labeled as fascist was all for naught, and Nicks own personal faggy hatred towards anyone who didn’t agree with him cost him dearly. Most of the people remaining at this point are retarded loyalists who will justify anything because Nick, who shilled for Zionist Jews to get in government, is inexplicably the only one who can stop ZOG.
I'm not really thinking about the fans, it's just Nick is a homo who would find any excuse not to marry a woman. I hope it's true though. We need a marriage arc. @John Andrews Stan at least DM a mod proof if you won't post it here
 
This is where Pinesap, Classical Theist and Christian Wagner lose me. Nick will repeatedly say that he’s not a theologian and espouse social/racial/gender viewpoints not taught by the Church and they’ll twist themselves in knots to try to find orthodoxy in what he’s saying rather than correct him.

These same people will not extend nearly as much charity to Jimmy Akin or Trent Horn when they interpret a complex Church teaching in a manner they disagree with.
While Jimmy Akin or Trent Horn are not theologically sound and are effectively an Outer Party for the Daily Wire, they both have deserved audiences and know how to socialize well. The same can't be said for these clowns.

Pinesap is an American version of Vee, which is to say he is an annoying rat whose smugness outpaces his competence and personality at every opportunity. Pinesap in all likelihood is not saved as a contact in any single person's phone.

Classical Theist might be a theist but he is definitely not classical. He has probably read more books than all these e-ologians put together but unfortunately this has done little to alleviate his severe 'tism and inability to handle abstractions.

Christian Wagner thinks that if he watches enough Nick Fuentes he might through osmosis gain some of the neurotic charm that attracts an unwitting teenybopper audience. Besides lacking a personality, he is also in denial about still being a Calvinist.

Despite his frociaggine and retardation Nick Fuentes is at least not a whimpering towel boy for someone else. That might be a part of his appeal to young viewers and why none of these other guys break a hundred viewers on a livestream.
 
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I'm not really thinking about the fans, it's just Nick is a homo who would find any excuse not to marry a woman. I hope it's true though. We need a marriage arc. @John Andrews Stan at least DM a mod proof if you won't post it here
Fair, my interest in the subject is rather politically motivated so I look at it from that perspective. My interest in seeing Nick driven from his position is that he’ll stop corrupting young men into his retarded ideology.
 
I agree, brother. Jimmy Aiken has done more to defend the faith and communicate the often complex and nuanced positions of The Church in a positive, digestible way than anybody affiliated with Nick or AF as a whole ever have or ever will. I'm a bit curious as to why the terminally-online Thomist types seem to be the most adamant in their support for Nick. Maybe it's because neoscholasticism lends itself well to autistic people (though as always, what St. Thomas Aquinas actually wrote and said is often quite different from the conclusions made by many his followers/the manualists) being able to argue their way to any conclusion through endless distinctions. I'm not sure. Any ideas?

I’m going to copy pasta a comment I saw on an Erick Ybarra post critiquing Pinesap which explains the online Thomist/Orthobro phenomenon pretty well.

“Pinesap, and many more Instagram-grade folks, are made up of cookie-cutter Pope Francis “apologists” stemming ultimately from Nick Fuentes groupies. They trash people critical of Pope Francis as well as the Catholic Answers apologists because they all feel they have stumbled upon some degree of safety in the Fuentes camp. It’s quite obvious Francis likely despises the Fuentes camp, but they have yet to acknowledge this.

Yet, very few of them genuinely follow a researched paradigm of any apologetics and have specifically been raised off the party lines and quote-mines of the internet. Not to mention the absurd, embarrassing and thoughtless use of Gen-Z vocabulary. This type of so-called apologist is further damaging the initially promising spectrum of Catholic youth, and causing them to become indistinguishable from the dumpster pile known as the Eastern Orthodox “orthobro” phenomenon seen solely on the internet.

Unsurprisingly, they were likely influenced by the “orthobros” despite investing immense amount of energy bickering with them with little substance.”

It’s less about living the faith and evangelizing than it is about quote mining Aquinas or first millennium ecumenical councils as a means of dunking. Or making the pope into a memetic figure (like the MAGAs do with Trump or the groypers do with Fuentes.)

It’s all very autistic. That being said, Gideon Lazar comes off as being on the spectrum yet he’s a husband and father and is capable of reigning it in.
 
Groypers are easily the most detestable individuals online and the fact that 85% are Mexicans fighting to save the white race just adds to the comedy of this charade.

Nobody should even be shocked that Fuentes and Destiny were gay lovers. Catboys, obsession with twinks, hung out with a tranny in a chat this year, viewed tranny porn. The evidence is all there but retards will buy into Nick’s lies and there’s no saving them by this point.
 
I don’t read this thread so maybe this has already been reported but I have it from a very reliable source that Nick is engaged to some Hispanic girl who’s part of the AF scene. I don’t know if this is super hardcore bearding or what, but apparently people around him think it’s a real relationship. Either way, I hope they’re miserable together for a very long time.
This has to be BS. Nick would be the first one to announce that he can't be gay because he's engaged to a bio woman.
If it's Morgan Ariel, the HPV ridden single mother, I'm gonna lose it laughing
If true, it can't be her. She's called the Catholic Church demonic and is a single mom.
Interesting. Where does the HPV and kid come in though? Now I'm kinda interested in learning more.
She's fully admitted to being a single mom after being accused of being a coal burner by twitter groypers. The kid is white.

Valentina Gomez? That would be convenient, she already has a PG thread. I don't know of any other Hispanic women in that scene.

I find it hard to believe Nick would marry a non-white woman. He hates the idea of marriage except as a vehicle for having white kids. On the show he's been talking about how he wants an Italian wife, either Italian-American or from Italy.
Gomez isn't a groyper and has long-term political ambitions.
 
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