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Is it over?

  • Yes, I am sad and need a Ben backrub :(

    Votes: 334 31.9%
  • No, we will be back, autism too strong

    Votes: 529 50.5%
  • Cams down until we roll into Bloodgames 2

    Votes: 185 17.7%

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do they not have writer(s) on their team?
no, like Sam didn't even know that the concept of a writer just for standups even existed until earlier this year, no way in hell they know that a writer for reality shows is a thing.
I really don't think there are many writers out there that would actually work for this concept.
there are tons of writers, do people not remember the 2000s? especially now with woke bullshit starting to be toned down there are quite a few writers out there that understand and are into the concept, for fucks sake Alex Stein is one of them and Sam Hyde through skankfest knows about a 100 more. he's just cheap.
When shit unravels, or never takes off, Sam immediately sabotages the production. Its probably why Charls distanced himself from working with Sam for so long. Im sure whatever happened behind the scenes that ended their show could have been handled a myriad of different ways.
honestly nothing makes me feel like World Peace was a mercykill more than fishtank episodes. imagine a guy like Sam in a writers room, meanwhile say what you will about Tim Heidecker, behind the scenes him and eric were amazing at executing the dumb shit they wanted done. just watching the behind the scenes shows that even when they are fucking with people its after they put on a smile meanwhile with Sam it feels like he's yelling even when he wants to be nice.

the shittest way i put it is that Tim acts like Andy Kaufman did in real life while Sam is Andy Kaufman as played by jim carey in Man on the moon, its too overly played out, like when shit doesn't take off or unravels on Tim's podcast he doesn't make an ass of himself to keep it entertaining. he takes the hit and moves on, just like you'd expect from a former jock prom king whereas Sam like an artsy fag goes nuts once his epic plan fails.

Like Sam is only the host because of the fanbase, when it really should be someone less likely to sperg and derail a season because he hates someone's political beliefs.
Would you like me to expand on any of these? Or brainstorm even crazier ones?
Yeah explain to me why we should kill off child drag show enthusiasts (input it into your AI for me please)
 
There is really zero excuse for the wiggers to be racking their brains for content. It's like they are just throwing shit at the wall on the fly. For fucks sakes just use chatgpt: (yes I know most of these ideas are gay af, but some could be wiggered up)
Honestly, I don't even think challenges or setting matter that much if you have a great cast. This season had perhaps the greatest cast which they squandered. The challenge does not have to be creative. it just needs to leave creative leeway for the fish to move around in. They had very mundane challenges for famous house 1.0, but it didn't matter because the fish and their chemistry made up for it. As the season went on and more fish were lost that chemistry and social web began to fade, and the low quality of the challenges began to show.

They literally had the fish carve pumpkins on Halloween. Perhaps the most obvious and lazy challenge one could think of for Halloween, but it didn't matter. The fun was watching them interact during that time and mess up their lines for a "Hulu scene" after. Something as simple as carving pumpkins led to a big fight between Simbal and Alex and the audience growing a hatred for Ted's cowardice. And that's not even looking at what the other fish were doing during that time.
 
The challenge does not have to be creative. it just needs to leave creative leeway for the fish to move around in. They had very mundane challenges for famous house 1.0, but it didn't matter because the fish and their chemistry made up for it.
It’s pretty clear now that they had maybe two pages of random funny ideas brainstormed like the iDubbz documentary showed (gay Ben, shill TCL, rent a shitty BMW, make the fish “reshoot” scenes), bought a cool house, and put up cameras. Then we have 1/6th of the show planned out. But then they spend 18 hours in the basement every day doordashing food or huffing nitrous and getting pissy when the fish are just standing around in an empty house confused and bored. Then all it takes is one burnt taquito for one of their retarded improv conversations to go from potentially amusing to actively harming content, like when Alex’s wife said nobody ever got paid so the fish were freaking out and Jet just got mad and made everything look even more seedy. It didn’t help Luke doesn’t have social skills and ruined bits, but they didn’t take thirty seconds to map where everyone was and how to do their gaslighting. Then they get pissed and stomp back down to the basement.
 
War, war never changes.
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It’s pretty clear now that they had maybe two pages of random funny ideas brainstormed like the iDubbz documentary showed (gay Ben, shill TCL, rent a shitty BMW, make the fish “reshoot” scenes), bought a cool house, and put up cameras. Then we have 1/6th of the show planned out. But then they spend 18 hours in the basement every day doordashing food or huffing nitrous and getting pissy when the fish are just standing around in an empty house confused and bored. Then all it takes is one burnt taquito for one of their retarded improv conversations to go from potentially amusing to actively harming content, like when Alex’s wife said nobody ever got paid so the fish were freaking out and Jet just got mad and made everything look even more seedy. It didn’t help Luke doesn’t have social skills and ruined bits, but they didn’t take thirty seconds to map where everyone was and how to do their gaslighting. Then they get pissed and stomp back down to the basement.
Honestly I feel like they just wing it and let tts write the script. If the Truman show ending they were talking about was actually real then chat handed them that plot line almost entirely.

Can you imagine how retarded this is all gonna look in the episodic releases? Building up all that suspense just to end up going into the finale with the last two fish because of… elimination chocolate. It sounds more like a bit from World Peace 2. Any challenge literally any challenge at all would be better.

a contest with no competitions..
 
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the shittest way i put it is that Tim acts like Andy Kaufman did in real life while Sam is Andy Kaufman as played by jim carey in Man on the moon, its too overly played out, like when shit doesn't take off or unravels on Tim's podcast he doesn't make an ass of himself to keep it entertaining. he takes the hit and moves on, just like you'd expect from a former jock prom king whereas Sam like an artsy fag goes nuts once his epic plan fails.
I guess Im a fan of Hyde generally, and I think a couple of the skits from World Peace were amazing. I think the CEO sketch is brilliant on so many levels and I can re watch it anytime. But Hyde and MDE dont come close to Heidecker. I was never a big fan of Tim and Eric, but On Cinema is one of my favorite pieces of media ever. Every season, every episode, every oscar special, its ever green content for me.

When Sam and Tim argued live on Office Hours, Tim told him to just do your own thing, all you need is the internet and Sam kinda scoffed at that. Well some time later, Heidecker moved On Cinema to its own platform, away from Adult Swim and sells the content straight to the fans. Hyde basically does the same thing with his projects and Fish Tank.

And the competency that the two projects are run with dont even compare. Even though its all self funded, Heidecker runs On CInema with nothing but professional people. Hyde is running around with degens that are half his age.
 
When Sam and Tim argued live on Office Hours, Tim told him to just do your own thing, all you need is the internet and Sam kinda scoffed at that. Well some time later, Heidecker moved On Cinema to its own platform, away from Adult Swim and sells the content straight to the fans. Hyde basically does the same thing with his projects and Fish Tank.
You do realize the reason people got pissed at him for saying that is because he just finished being a dirty kike and going behind Sam's back to get his shit taken off the air? "Yeah you should just go do your own thing, man" is decent advice in a vacuum, coming from the person that just booted you out of an entire industry and welded the door shut behind you, it's sleazy kike behavior.
 
You do realize the reason people got pissed at him for saying that is because he just finished being a dirty kike and going behind Sam's back to get his shit taken off the air? "Yeah you should just go do your own thing, man" is decent advice in a vacuum, coming from the person that just booted you out of an entire industry and welded the door shut behind you, it's sleazy kike behavior.
Well Sam accused Tim, and Tim said he never did that. Then Hyde accused some other bozo, to which Heidecker said he had nothing to do with that. Then Hyde said he could have stopped it, or saved him and chose not to.

Aside from that, Sam was doing himself no favors at the time either though. I believe thats why Charls wanted nothing to do with him. If Hyde was just backstabbed and it was out of his control, I doubt there would have been such a big falling out. But there was.


Im also hoping Act 4 brings something entertaining and a satisfying conclusion. My criticism of the show, is only because I want it to be good. At the end of the day, were all fans of this shit. No matter how much we bitch and complain, we all like Fish Tank. Weve spent hours watching this shit and arguing with eachother about it, hopefully they can bring some sort of satisfying conclusion to it all.
 
Fwiw some casinos/resorts have media release forms that need to be signed and rules pertaining to filming (i.e. no porn, no destruction of property, no bashing the brand) and can get filming approval same day especially if an upfront fee is paid. So a casino isn't off the table, it just depends on which one would allow them.

Certainly not any of the big names.
 
I saw several people talking about "writers" and how low effort the gaslighting "bits" for the idubz doc were.
This is a feature, not a bug.

For those that aren't aware Sam LOVES shitty terrible worthless improvslop. He can't get enough of it. The Great War and Ghost Suckers are two shining examples.

The infamous Great War project he made was basically universally hated by everyone and very quickly forgotten. It was hours on end of Sam improv larping with the wiggers with no actual joke or punchline in sight. It's truly one of the biggest turds he's ever made.

Maybe someone else can find it but there's a clip from his podcast where he talked with Joeyy about The Great War reception which was really enlightening.

Paraphrasing here but it went something like this;
Joey: They just don't get it, like, it's supposed to be bad.
Sam: Yeah exactly and it was actually just really good though.

Sam just loves improvslop for some reason. He's good at writing funny bullet point ideas and he's at his best when he actually puts effort into them. Left to his own devices he would be content making the bum fights equivalent of improv comedy.
 
Posted some weird Jesus shit on my profile that I never replied to and is now gone.
Yeah I got a weird Jesus profile post too. Something about not using the Lord's name and a swear word in the same sentence. We're watching a show with a gay guy whacking it on camera every day, a child groomer bdsm drag queen, and two lesbian whores going at it under a blanket in front of God and everybody, and this guy's worried about using the Lord's name in vain? That's kookaburra stuff, I didn't respond either.
That was my post and I was mainly referencing when Ice Poseidon went to the Strip years ago (when he first met superfan Danny Brown who Ice ditched after 15 minutes) and, presumably, callers were responsible for him being ejected from everywhere, he kept being told he needed a permit. I could be misremebering though perhaps it was LA. I do agree with you that they will probably be fine. Also Taylor sitting by herself recording poker is different than rolling up with a serious production outfit like Fisht- nevermind...
Travel Ruby has a YouTube channel where she films all Vegas-related stuff, and she said if you call ahead and ASK NICELY, most casinos will let you film and give you a protocol of what is and isn't acceptable. They mostly are worried about you filming their other clients, because what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. They also don't want you filming their security features, employees, or the locations of off-limits doors or rooms, for obvious reasons. Restaurant rules are more lax; they're mostly strict about the gambling floor. As long as you ASK FIRST and don't interfere with other people's enjoyment of the premises, it's doable.
You do realize the reason people got pissed at him for saying that is because he just finished being a dirty kike and going behind Sam's back to get his shit taken off the air? "Yeah you should just go do your own thing, man" is decent advice in a vacuum, coming from the person that just booted you out of an entire industry and welded the door shut behind you, it's sleazy kike behavior.
I thought it was Eric Andre who got Sam's show kicked.

As for the RV arc, as predicted, I haven't had a lot of time to watch it, and the little I've seen, I haven't had the luxury of really paying attention. But what I have seen seems no worse than whatever they would have done if they'd stayed in the house. At least everyone seems to be having a good time except Burt, who seems super-cranky. I don't hate it. I wish I had more time to watch. Thank you guys for keeping the thread up-to-date.
 
I saw several people talking about "writers" and how low effort the gaslighting "bits" for the idubz doc were.
This is a feature, not a bug.

For those that aren't aware Sam LOVES shitty terrible worthless improvslop. He can't get enough of it. The Great War and Ghost Suckers are two shining examples.

The infamous Great War project he made was basically universally hated by everyone and very quickly forgotten. It was hours on end of Sam improv larping with the wiggers with no actual joke or punchline in sight. It's truly one of the biggest turds he's ever made.

Maybe someone else can find it but there's a clip from his podcast where he talked with Joeyy about The Great War reception which was really enlightening.

Paraphrasing here but it went something like this;
Joey: They just don't get it, like, it's supposed to be bad.
Sam: Yeah exactly and it was actually just really good though.

Sam just loves improvslop for some reason. He's good at writing funny bullet point ideas and he's at his best when he actually puts effort into them. Left to his own devices he would be content making the bum fights equivalent of improv comedy.
Thats intersting lol. I always heard of Great War bs and I was under the impression it was liked by fans. Ive never seen any of that stuff though.

I wonder if he has seen On Cinema and what are his impressions of that? Almost all of that shit is improv, but it still coherently follows an overarching plot. And there are amazing one liners.

I dont know who came up with the sketches Ive liked from World Peace, but the ones I like, I really like.

The Substitute Teacher, The Wine Glass and CEO are all 10/10 for me.
 
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