Opinion America Stopped Cooking With Tallow for a Reason - Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s view on fats is about bucking convention, not promoting health.

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By Yasmin Tayag
December 2, 2024, 1:17 PM ET

Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s latest spin on MAGA, “Make frying oil tallow again,” is surprisingly straightforward for a man who has spent decades downplaying his most controversial opinions. Last month, Kennedy argued in an Instagram post that Americans were healthier when restaurants such as McDonald’s cooked fries in beef tallow—that is, cow fat—instead of seed oils, a catchall term for common vegetable-derived oils including corn, canola, and sunflower. Americans, he wrote, are “being unknowingly poisoned” by seed oils; in his view, we’d all be better off cooking with solid fats such as tallow, butter, and lard. In a video that Kennedy posted on Thanksgiving, he deep-fries a whole turkey in beef tallow and says, “This is how we cook the MAHA way.”

Cardiologists shuddered at the thought. Conventional medical guidance has long recommended the reverse: less solid fat, more plant oils. But in recent years, a fringe theory has gained prominence for arguing that seed oils are toxic, put into food by a nefarious elite—including Big Pharma, the FDA, and food manufacturers—to keep Americans unhealthy and dependent. Most nutrition scientists squarely dismiss this idea as a conspiracy theory. But the movement probes some unresolved, fundamental questions about nutrition. Are saturated fatty acids—the kind in animal fat—actually dangerous? And are polyunsaturated ones—found in plant-derived oils—really all that great for your heart? The fact that these debates remain unsettled does not validate Kennedy’s view on fats, which represents a complete reversal of conventional health beliefs. But it does leave plenty of room for his philosophy to proliferate.

When McDonald’s started using beef tallow in the 1950s, relatively little was known about the relationship between fat and heart health. Tallow was used because it was cheap and tasty. Previous animal studies had already hinted at a link between fat intake and heart disease. Subsequent research on humans pegged the correlation to saturated fat, which comes from animals and is typically solid at room temperature. In contrast, polyunsaturated fat, which is derived from plants and is generally liquid at room temperature, was found to reduce levels of the “bad” LDL cholesterol associated with increased risk of heart disease. By the 1970s, a large body of research had demonstrated that the typical American diet, high in saturated fat and cholesterol, was associated with a high risk of heart disease. The first U.S. dietary guidelines, released in 1980, recommended reducing total fat, saturated fat, and cholesterol. (They also advocated for eating more carbohydrates, which backfired.) In 1988, a Nebraska-based businessman launched a passionate nationwide crusade calling on McDonald’s to end its use of tallow and stop its “poisoning of America.” (This rhetoric, like Kennedy’s, is an exaggeration, but at least it was rooted in reality.) In 1990, McDonald’s switched to 100 percent vegetable oil, as did chains such as Wendy’s and Burger King.

Read: Americans have lost the plot on cooking oil

The shift from saturated to polyunsaturated fats—not just in restaurants but in home kitchens—corresponded with major health gains in the United States. In 1962, Americans began to consume more vegetable fats, largely in the form of margarine; four years later, cardiovascular deaths began a decades-long decline. From 1940 to 1996, deaths from heart disease fell by 56 percent, and they continued falling through 2013, albeit at a lower rate. Although the decline can be partly attributed to factors such as better blood-pressure control and lower rates of smoking, “the increase in polyunsaturated fat is probably one of the primary factors, if not the primary factor, in dramatically reducing heart-disease death” as well as lowering the risk of diabetes, dementia, and total mortality, Walter Willett, a Harvard professor of nutrition and epidemiology, told me.

The research has continued to bear out the dangers of saturated fats—and, crucially, the benefits of replacing them with polyunsaturated ones. The most recent version of the U.S. dietary guidelines caps saturated fat intake at roughly 20 grams a day. Federal guidance holds that “the best way to protect your health is not just to limit saturated fat—it’s to replace it with healthier unsaturated fats.” That is to say, no one should be replacing their seed oils with beef tallow.

The arguments in favor of saturated fats can largely be split into three categories. The first questions the validity of the research that established the harms of saturated fats. Two commonly cited meta-analyses—studies of existing studies—published in 2010 and 2014 concluded that the evidence for consuming less saturated fat and more polyunsaturated fat was inconclusive. Both stoked fiery debates and rigorous scrutiny. A correction to the 2014 study essentially nullified its findings. Neither study accounted for what people ate in place of saturated fat. More to the point, the authors of these studies questioned the existing consensus on dietary fats—but did not call for the total elimination of seed oils from the American diet.

Read: The vindication of cheese, butter, and full-fat milk

The second category alleges the harms of seed oil. Some tallow truthers claim that consuming too much omega-6, a polyunsaturated fatty acid commonly found in seed oils, allows it to outcompete its more healthful cousin, omega-3, which is found in nuts and fish. But, according to Willett, the body’s regulatory mechanisms prevent such imbalances, and viewing individual fatty acids as competitors is “an extreme oversimplification of what actually goes on in our metabolic system.” The physician Catherine Shanahan’s book Dark Calories, an exhaustive account of the arguments against seed oil, posits that polyunsaturated seed oils promote oxidative stress, which drives all disease. When I asked Shanahan, popularly known as Dr. Cate, why this was not reflected in the existing scientific literature, she questioned its credibility. “They haven’t seen all the data,” she told me. “They’ve only seen what we’ve been fed.” Another popular wellness influencer known as Carnivore Aurelius, who advocates for an all-meat diet, has claimed without evidence that seed oils are “toxic sludge” that disrupts the functioning of mitochondria.

The third category, which is perhaps the most puzzling, comprises a bona fide enthusiasm for tallow—which, to be fair, makes a delicious french fry. Tallow, according to certain corners of the internet, can drive weight loss, boost the immune system, and improve cognition. (No substantial evidence exists to support any of these claims.) Americans aren’t just eating beef tallow—they’re also smearing it on their faces as a supposedly natural alternative to conventional moisturizer, despite a lack of scientific evidence, and, sometimes, the faint smell of cow.

The crux of the anti-seed-oil, pro-tallow position is a belief that the medical consensus on dietary fats is compromised by financial interests—of the seed-oil and medical industries, of universities, of the government. Suspicion of corporate interests is central to Kennedy’s views on health in general. His campaign to “Make America healthy again” is rooted in stamping out corruption in government health agencies. As I wrote previously, this anti-establishment attitude resonates throughout the wellness space: among seed-oil truthers, sure, but also proponents of raw milk, carnivorism, and alternative nutrition in general. Arguments for these dietary choices have been endlessly debunked by mainstream scientists and journalists. But such corrections will hold little sway over people who fundamentally distrust the data they are based on.

Read: ‘Make America Healthy Again’ sounds good until you start asking questions

For Kennedy and his supporters, the science isn’t really the point—bucking convention is. Rejecting the consensus about saturated fats makes a political statement. (As a bonus, it creates a market for Make Frying Oil Tallow Again crop tops, trucker caps, and dog bandanas.) But as far as scientists can tell, it’s not going to make anyone healthier. Between potatoes deep-fried in tallow or in seed oils, the latter is “for sure better,” Willett said. Still, no matter your political stance, no french fry is ever going to be healthy.

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The breaking news in this article is right at the end:

They told the truth and didn't talk down to me.
What's next, are they going to tell me that there's no such thing as a "safer" cigarette?

A broken clock IS right twice a day, huh.
 
I'm just so tired of the endless "actually THIS is what's good for you" "no actually it's THIS that's good for you"
Why the fuck can't anyone have a consensus on what foods will make you healthy or won't and what we should and shouldn't eat?
This seems like something humanity should have figured out in the BC times.
It shouldn't be exhausting trying to figure out how to better your health.
 
The biggest sign that RFK is right and knows what he is talking about is the deafening silence of the media and medical/food instrusty trying to destroy and discredit him on one of his biggest claims to fame, the one thing his book on Fauci spent almost 2/3rs of it's text on, and the thing that he has advocated the most since the mid 90's.

HIV is harmless. It has nothing to do with AIDS. AIDS as a disease is a case of industrial grifting by big pharma that knowingly killed people with wrong treatments until enough new doctors joined who tried new things, and then "suddenly" AIDS was no longer a death sentence.

Not one word on this. Not one paragraph of text. Not a single mention of this earth shattering "conspiracy theory" by RFK anywhere on these long winded attacks on the man. It makes no sense at all.

...Unless he is right. And giving him a chance to sperg out about it in public is too big of a risk for the shitshow it would cause.
AZT was originally, if I recall correctly, a failed Chemotherapy drug. Good ol' Fauci approved. Maybe the man is more based than we give him credit for, treading GRIDS with shit that would kill the faggots more likely than not.
 
Just for the record, the entire "Saturated Fats are Bad for your heart," argument is based on a study by Ancel Keyes. If you actually read the study you'll find that is no actual link between saturated fats and heart disease, Keyes cherry picked only the countries that had an increase in saturated fat consumption and an increase in heart disease, but ignored the ones that showed increases in saturated fat consumption but no increase in heart disease or the other way around. Why would he do this, you ask? See, a small company named Proctor and Gamble had bought the rights to canola oil, but was finding it difficult to sell as a lubricant, but it was edible and it could be made into a butter substitute. No demand for that, Americans were happy with butter and animal fats, so P&G threw lots of money at Keyes study and wouldn't you know, his conclusion was exactly what P&G wanted, even if the actual research didn't add up. So the reason you eat garbage oils filled with shitty polyunsaturated fatty acids is because one of the first megacorporations wanted green line to go up. Laugh in the face of the "experts," they're always for sale.

Also for the record, what the study actually showed was that increased prosperity post-WWII lead to an increase in consumption of all food types, and the countries with the largest increase in consumption, especially in things like sugar, saw an increase in heart disease. Experts and academics are whores, anyone who believes them without thought or question is a retard and should consider removing themselves from the gene pool in whatever way you find suitable.
I heard it was due to the sugar lobby managing to pay enough to politicians and scientists to blame cholesterol in heart disease rather than sugar, causing a massive media shitstorm against it (which is still ongoing). This what caused companies like McDonalds to move away from Tallow despite making the fries extra delicious.
 
I heard it was due to the sugar lobby managing to pay enough to politicians and scientists to blame cholesterol in heart disease rather than sugar, causing a massive media shitstorm against it (which is still ongoing). This what caused companies like McDonalds to move away from Tallow despite making the fries extra delicious.
I wouldn't be surprised if they did, I think P&G started it with margarine vs. saturated fats and then Big Sugar would have come in at the time for low and no fat. Probably with the anti-sodium people too. Take out the fats and salts and things taste like cardboard, unless you put sugars in to cover the lack of flavor. P&G wants to make a market for fake butter leads to High-Fructose Corn Syrup in everything because we removed everything else that adds flavor. It's like that meme with dominos gradually increasing in size, just start at "The French Enlightenment suggests liberalization might make things better," and ends at "Your food is full of shit so Green Line Goes Up."
 
The fact that these debates remain unsettled does not validate Kennedy’s view on fats, which represents a complete reversal of conventional health beliefs.
Journoscum try to go one sentence without being a slimy self contradicting kike challenge: impossible
MASLD (used to be called NAFLD, but they changed it since they thought that the F [for Fatty] was stigmatizing, I shit you not).
Deathfats are on par with trannies when it comes to self delusion and a need for hugboxes.
HIV is harmless. It has nothing to do with AIDS. AIDS as a disease is a case of industrial grifting by big pharma that knowingly killed people with wrong treatments until enough new doctors joined who tried new things, and then "suddenly" AIDS was no longer a death sentence.
I’ve seen exactly one story covering this (I don’t recall where), and I have consumed a lot of election slop. I just looked on Jewtube and can’t even find that now.
 
I’ve seen exactly one story covering this (I don’t recall where), and I have consumed a lot of election slop. I just looked on Jewtube and can’t even find that now.

His book on Anthony Fauci covers it. Ron Unz also did a few good articles on it.



https://www.unz.com/runz/aids-and-the-revival-of-the-duesberg-hypothesis/ < This one is mostly about HIV alone and expands on some of the issues Kennedy has spoken of.
 
Just for the record, the entire "Saturated Fats are Bad for your heart," argument is based on a study by Ancel Keyes. If you actually read the study you'll find that is no actual link between saturated fats and heart disease, Keyes cherry picked only the countries that had an increase in saturated fat consumption and an increase in heart disease, but ignored the ones that showed increases in saturated fat consumption but no increase in heart disease or the other way around. Why would he do this, you ask? See, a small company named Proctor and Gamble had bought the rights to canola oil, but was finding it difficult to sell as a lubricant, but it was edible and it could be made into a butter substitute. No demand for that, Americans were happy with butter and animal fats, so P&G threw lots of money at Keyes study and wouldn't you know, his conclusion was exactly what P&G wanted, even if the actual research didn't add up. So the reason you eat garbage oils filled with shitty polyunsaturated fatty acids is because one of the first megacorporations wanted green line to go up. Laugh in the face of the "experts," they're always for sale.

Also for the record, what the study actually showed was that increased prosperity post-WWII lead to an increase in consumption of all food types, and the countries with the largest increase in consumption, especially in things like sugar, saw an increase in heart disease. Experts and academics are whores, anyone who believes them without thought or question is a retard and should consider removing themselves from the gene pool in whatever way you find suitable.
Ancel Keyes was one of the inventors of the K ration, extensively used in WWII.

Have been seeing my cardiologist for fifteen years now, and he has never said one single word about what fats we use in cooking. Neither did the interventional cardiologists, nor the thoracic surgeon who fixed the heart, nor our primary-care doctor, internal medicine and cardiology. They always encourage weight loss, and have recommended daily fish oil capsules, but never a word about which types of fat to use.
 
I look forward to all the shitlibs killing themselves with garbage food to show those disinfo voters with "imagine being <x> about <y> because of <z> 🤣".

Yes libs, eat that high fructose corn syrup, canola oil and lab grown meat because muh science says it's safe. Show those chuds, eat it all and eat it proud just like how destiny ate that dudes ass.
 
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I'm just so tired of the endless "actually THIS is what's good for you" "no actually it's THIS that's good for you"
Why the fuck can't anyone have a consensus on what foods will make you healthy or won't and what we should and shouldn't eat?
This seems like something humanity should have figured out in the BC times.
It shouldn't be exhausting trying to figure out how to better your health.
Too many of the studies are funded by special interest groups whose profit margins rely on consumers being misinformed.

Whether it's the sugar industry putting all the blame on fat, or saying it's racist to tell black people to lose weight, always follow the money.
 
I heard it was due to the sugar lobby managing to pay enough to politicians and scientists to blame cholesterol in heart disease rather than sugar
Procter & Gamble specifically had an interest in selling Crisco, which, while probably not smart to use as a lubricant, was both kosher and more than 50% trans fat (as Crisco was originally made of hydrogenated cottonseed oil), and a product they were soon to release, Olestra, which has a reputation for making you shit your skeleton out (and is made of sucrose ester - fake fat made out of sugar).
 
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What should we do HMMMM BIG THUNK TIME

Go back to the pre-demonizing fat (in your food) era and use the various drugs and procedures we've developed to deal with it when it causes clogged arteries?

Or continue the (ultra)processed carbohydrates should replace fat (in your food) craze that not only still has our arteries clogged as fuck, but also gives us beetus and various beetus-related illnesses (like gastroparesis and fatty liver)? HMMMM BIG THUNK TIME
 
Why are French fries in and of themselves considered to be intrinsically unhealthy? Beef tallow is considered safe to eat, potatoes are considered safe to eat, but together they are magically now dangerous and harmful???
They aren't, but the combined fat, carbs, and salt means they are incredibly easy to overeat, and they are often paired with a burger and a giant sugary drink, so you can easily get days worth of calories in a single meal.
I'm just so tired of the endless "actually THIS is what's good for you" "no actually it's THIS that's good for you"
Why the fuck can't anyone have a consensus on what foods will make you healthy or won't and what we should and shouldn't eat?
This seems like something humanity should have figured out in the BC times.
It shouldn't be exhausting trying to figure out how to better your health.
Eat stuff that grows, not stuff that is made in a factory. If a certain food makes you shit yourself, or break out in hives, avoid it.
And that goes for what you drink, drinking sodas (especially with HFCS) is not good all the time.
There's multiple theories regarding the best diet, some based on ancestry, some based on blood type or other biological factors, which can be looked at if you want further refinement or a good starting point.
But most diet advice is based on ethics (veganism), or trends (carnivore).
If you keep to the starting parameters, you can try a variety of options until you find what works for you.
It took me years but a low carb/keto diet is when I feel the best. I have a friend who only eats fish as a protein because that works for him.
 
Eat stuff that grows, not stuff that is made in a factory. If a certain food makes you shit yourself, or break out in hives, avoid it.
And that goes for what you drink, drinking sodas (especially with HFCS) is not good all the time.
There's multiple theories regarding the best diet, some based on ancestry, some based on blood type or other biological factors, which can be looked at if you want further refinement or a good starting point.
But most diet advice is based on ethics (veganism), or trends (carnivore).
If you keep to the starting parameters, you can try a variety of options until you find what works for you.
It took me years but a low carb/keto diet is when I feel the best. I have a friend who only eats fish as a protein because that works for him.
If you eat food that makes you poop that isn't solid and relatively small, then it's almost certainly not good for you
 
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