I understand the wanting to cut ties, no matter which way you slice it, this is a terrible look for Dman.
Even if there was an agreement that lewds could be shared with sexual partners between everyone, no one wants to admit it publicly, so now it looks to the majority of people like a breach of trust. There's just no reason to want to be asscociated him at the moment. (My understanding is there was likely some general agreement to share vids within small groups of people)
The LS leaks are almost certainly a major break in trust, pretty uncool if you ask me, especially if it was at the time when he was trying to get with LS. (My understanding is fuzzy there, was it at the time or like a year later? Some one the messages were labelled "Today" but I havent looked into it too deeply)
It was at the same time. Between the period in which he flew back from DC after proposing Lauren IRL, and seems like he continued the relationship proposal through DMs.
Destiny flew back and immediately broke up with Melina, which is why Melina could be seen at the back of his stream packing up her stuff loudly.
So while waiting for Lauren's response, he explained the whole situation to the Rose girl, in which he admits he's expecting a No as an answer since she's taking so long to respond. (If I'm not misremembering the events)
But the big ticket item on the list is "did Dman knowingly engage in sexting with a minor?"
That will always remain unknown, and the narrative that him and his chat will go with is that IF Rose was indeed underaged, he was completely unaware of the fact.
The argument that the thread is making, is that Destiny knows and purposely acts in a way, not only through his actions, but his own statements of his beliefs regarding the age of consent, that adults should be able to have sex with 15-17 year olds.
If you accept the premise, that Destiny has indeed argued for that in the past, then all of his actions, including his relationship with Rose, or why he sexts with so many young adults/teens (but sneakily never follows those, only the other girls) why he engages in this behaviour.
Also, his self admitted messaging with young/underage teenagers, and him "giving them dating advice" comes into question.
Again, and you already know this, the answer that that question will always be a public No. As Destiny cuts sexual contact with any minor that makes itself known publicly to him. The real question is whether he purposely engages in sexual relationships with young girls/women that he's unaware of their age, and doesn't seek to confirm it, since he wants to be able to have sex with minors with justification of acting in ignorance.
However, that argument will never be enough for Destiny fans, I'm aware. The question is whether an outsider who sees all of those Destiny clips and sees him engage in that behaviour would arrive to my conclusion (that Tiny knowingly engages in sexting and sex with minors) or whether they would arrive to your conclusion, that Destiny isn't aware of the girls being underaged.
If proof doesn't surface, this whole thing goes from "Thats fucked" to "Thats cringe", at least in the eyes of DGG, I understand you guys might not care about the distinction as much but if D can avoid addressing this issue he will, so it will largely depend on the mandate from DGG as to whether he needs to make a manifesto.
I'm aware it's not enough for dggers. The dgger's opinions don't really matter. Is what an average outsider would interpret from the situation. As both your, and my position, seem to be apparently unknowable outside of Destiny's head.
As for painting the narrative a hack, I dont see how its misleading? We can squabble over the definition of a hack but at the end of the day there is sensitive data that he didnt want getting out, getting out. Its not particularly compelling, to me at least, that him refering to it as a hack is somehow a distraction. If I'm totally honest I don't even really see how its "way worse" for it to be an intentional leak from Rose other than maybe its more embarrasing that he trusted her? (I could be missing the point here)
It's misleading because just like him focusing on the bj, and purposely making the narrative that the guy is Fuentes, he's looking to distract by making himself look as a victim.
Is he a victim of sorts? yes. However, the real question is whether Stasia, and Pxie, gave informed consent of the sextapes being sent to what you allege is an 19 year old girl, and what I allege to be a 17 year old (groyper) girl, who Destiny even just by judging the LS texts, clearly had an unhealthy relationship with.
My understanding is he is refusing as much as possible to engage with the leak, I would think you would agree that is probably his best course of action in terms of damage control regardless of whether he believes she was underage. The game plan would be the same either way, it does not indicate guilt to me and it won't to DGG.
Don't disagree, his actions seem of preservation. However, if the situation is enough that he's losing friends over the situation, and he doesn't seem to be capable of disproving the narrative that the thread has, that the Stasia and Pxie didn't provide informed consent, and that Rose is underaged, then that is already damning enough.
If you can't prove that the girl you were sexting, and tried to fly out to Miami 5 different times, was an actual adult, then the behaviour you are engaging in is already unethical/problematic.
It seems literally all the evidence to suggest she was underage comes from Solo.
Don't disagree.
Sure Solo was probably just lying to Sunday, it looks to me like they are lying about the google doc links, and it looks like they are lying about the "Old enough" quote. The reason I am suspicious that these are lies is not because I have evidence to the contrary, but because if they were true they would have been in the leaked screenshots AND it would be trivially easy to prove when confronted.
If solo is willing to lie so flippantly, I cant hold their word in high regard, especially when they so easily could verify.
Don't disagree.
However, you still haven't provided an argument against me either.
Seems like Solo is completely avoiding posting porn/explicit content from Rose for a reason, he leaked all of the other girl's stuff, but not Rose:
- Either Rose was underaged, like he's arguing, which is why he didn't post any of her content.
- Either it's Rose herself, which is why she's not providing any of the explicit material of herself and being so dodgy.
And the rest of the arguments I wrote. Above, I'm not writing them all again.
However, again. No one has called him out on him having avoided even posting explicit Rose content, and Solo seems to avoid posting personal information of Rose.
If Destiny is correct that it's a hack, of the sorts that he implied in which if you notice he never attacked Rose in any way making it seem like Rose didn't share the account willingly, then why does Solo seem to be protecting Rose.
Again, there was stuff redacted in those dms that he wouldn't have removed if Tiny's narrative was true.
Destiny's statement, of what happened and the source for all the leaks, was very purposeful to go against Solo's narrative that he was given access to the account willingly, yet Tiny hasn't provided any evidence that what he's saying it's true.
And I do think that it looks terrible for Tiny, optically, if the alleged underaged girl that he was sexting with doesn't like him anymore, or is at least indifferent to him, enough to send her stuff to a friend of hers to be published.
You may disagree, but I think there's likely a reason why Tiny was making to make that narrative stick. To further make himself look like a victim and distract from all the unethical stuff that he was engaging in.
Leaking LS's personal life details, sexting at the very least an extremely young adult (likely no an adult, but a minor, if Solo is telling the truth), and sending videos of his friends and wife withother thei full informed consent, to a woman they netiher knew or trusted.
There IS evidence that Rose was of age:
1) Her word
2) Her archived twitter profile
3) She was selling lewd content
All of that can be Rose lying, why is Rose's past statements more truthful than Solo's? if you are going to bring Solo's word into question why not Rose's too.
From the screenshot that Solo posted of his convo with Tiny it seemed like Tiny didn't have any more proof other than "Rose said otherwise", so Tiny isn't 100% sure either? again, how is that behaviour not problematic by itself.
I'm willing to accept that position, that Rose's real age wasn't and isn't known, and that Destiny engaged in sexting with her without knowing her age, however, that doesn't help you, it also makes Destiny look unethical/predatory.
Sure its not definative but its not clear that solo is more reliable.
Sure, as written above, don't disagree.
But honestly the biggest giveaway for me is that if D knew she was underage and they were sexting anyway you KNOW they would be making edgy jokes about it, there would be evidence of it somewhere in the logs. And there just isn't.
I disagree. If anything if Destiny is indeed a predatory ephebophile who has come up with this whole system of how to passively engage with girls with high likelihood that they'll be underaged, I expect him to not mention her age ever again other than that first initial statement that Solo alleges.
But that's just a matter of opinion of how Tiny would act under a certain hypothetical situation, both your opinion and mine are basedless.
But hey @SoloTinyLeaks, Id love to proven wrong.
We know that Solo at very least is unconcerned for destinies wellbeing and at worst, highly motivated to hurt his career, the leak is evidence of that. Given that they lie somewhere on that spectrum there is at least some motivation to embellish the truth.
I don't disagree. Don't see how that changes anything. The truth can hurt Tiny just as much as fantasy.
I lied a lot about my personal interactions with Tiny because I didn't want the thread to know for the longest time that I took pity/felt bad for him, still, the vast majority of what I posted. And my aloggin with his relationship with LS ended up being completely correct and truthful.
I guess I know what it's like to be in a similar position as Solo, and lie about certain things, while still largely telling the truth.
However, I will continue to bring up, that Solo's actions, of not even leaking the state/city/college that Rose is from, and refusing to post any explicit content from her, both heavily hint towards that he's telling the truth that if too much of her personal life gets leaked it will affect her and him, and him avoiding posting any explicit content from her also likely hints towards Rose being underaged, and him not posting it because he would be redistributing childporn.
What we are seeing is exactly what we would expect to see if someone wanted to maliciously make the case forunderage sexting but didnt have the goods, just a whole lotta cringe.
Sure. Again, I don't see how that can still be contradictory with him saying the truth tho. Destiny's actions, if you have been watching him long enough, are of a sex addicted retard, who engages in the most degenerate acts, and doesn't think long term (only thinks of the coom).
What Solo alleges is completely consistent with everything we've known of Destiny. And his actions, like being unable to provide proof to his own friends that what Solo is alleging are lies, show either in the most charitable light towards him that he was reckless (like any addict did), so badly that he likely sexted with a minor. Or if you want to interpret things like I do, he purposely chooses to engage in sexual relationships with girls blindly because he knows some of them are underaged.
@Blav Im not asking for leaks to any images or videos, the things I asked for would be confirmation of the text that Solo is claiming is in the logs. Im happy for them to scribble out the second half of the google link for example (Not that it would still contain anything now anyway).
Sure I understand that, I'm only pointing out, and bringing up Rose's explicit content because Solo's actions throughout are consistent with either his story being at least partially true, fully true, or him being Rose.
If it was a person who without Rose's consent entered her account and is leaking all of this as a way to hurt both Rose and Destiny he would be acting in a very different way.
