Why Modern women expectations are too high and unrealistic?

Disgruntled Max said:
The point I was making was not that these women are unfuckable, but they're also not even close to the top 20% of women, yet it's not a far stretch of the imagination to think all 5 of these women believe they deserve a man in the top 5-10% because many women do think this way.
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Hypergamy doesn't really exist outside of dating apps, where there is a massive imbalance between genders. If there are many more men on an app than there are women, it stands to reason that women will go for the most attractive men. It's simple supply and demand.

I think those women are unfuckable, personally. I'd rather make myself puke. But I doubt they have "unrealistic" standards.

It's not like you have low standards either. I don't know what you think makes you deserve your ideal woman.
 
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Disgruntled Max said:
Your finger ratio also suggests you have low testosterone.
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years long lurker coming out of hibernation just to call you on your shit, faggot. This is pseudo-science nonsense.
The Mrs. and I are trying to have our first kid, and I get exposed to a lot of harmful materials as part of my job, so I went and had a sperm viability test. Part of the test is a blood test to check hormone levels. My swimmers are fine and my T level is in the 500s. My index is the same length as my ring finer on both hands. fuck out of here with this crap.

Oh and this entire thread is retarded. Get off the internet, go talk to actual people outside of your home. And I'm not just talking to the men. Yes, some women are superficial whores, some men are lazy slobs, and both types categorically have higher expectations in a partner than they deserve. But they are the large minority IRL, easily spotted and avoided. I met my wife in the checkout line at a local store. Just meet people, strike up a conversation, and see where it goes. Screech at me all you want, not replying.
 
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Disgruntled Max said:
You couldn't be further from the truth if you tried. The dear feeder lets the holes on this site menstruate over everything because the site has gained a reputation as a TERF haven, and BP is full of hole posters who crosspost on lolcow.farm and other sites. Josh enables the kind of reactionary feminism that comes from angry bitter cunts who voted for the very problems they're complaining about on the site now way more than he enables any of the men on the site.
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You seem mad that terfs are here for some reason
 
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Chapalapachapa said:
This line of thinking is fucking retarded. If you are a normal man you work, clean, cook for yourself. Ask a woman what she "brings to the table" and 9/10 times they will say sex.
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>man takes care of his own fucking adult responsibilities
>thinks women giving him sex in return for absolutely nothing is "girlbossing" that men "don't need"
The fuck is this retard talking about?
 
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Most women who do this have low self-esteem and it achieves two things. For one, it helps to convince themselves that they're worth more than they actually are. Secondly, since practically no one will end up dating her, she avoids a situation where she could be rejected or embarrass herself. It is also worth pointing out that materialistic shopping lists of standards themselves show insecurity because they satiate the need to compare oneself favorably against others.

In reality the only way to gain confidence is not by succeeding but surviving failure and since they've never risked their skin, they stay with that childish mindset into their 40s. I genuinely would encourage men to ignore these types, there is nothing to gain by playing such stupid games.
 
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Friend of Dorothy Parker said:
Backwards and in high heels, as phrased by a woman who did exactly that.
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Otterly said:
I do like that quote. Fred Astaire made her practice until her feet bled, and she was doing it all in heels. I can barely stand in heels, so kudos to ginger.
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I hate this quote. Rogers almost certainly never said it. She claimed that the first time she ever saw it was in this 1982 newspaper comic (by a man).
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It was probably in circulation before that, but this comic strip (by a man) is probably what popularized it.

This stupid quote flies in the face of reality. The idea that Astaire had an easier time than Rogers is pure fantasy. In most of their movies together, Astaire had at least one solo number, many of them quite physically demanding. Top Hat, White Tie, and Tails took 20 takes to get right because he kept breaking the cane toward the end. IIRC, Rogers only ever had one solo number in all their movies together, Follow the Fleet, though I admit to not having seen all of them yet. Astaire also had a solo routine in that same movie. A more accurate quote would be, "Ginger Rogers did about 80% of what Fred Astaire did, backwards and in high heels." But even that flies in the face of reality, because it minimizes their unique contributions.

Astaire worked on the choreography. Rogers helped with the wardrobes. Astaire famously hated the iconic dress from Cheek to Cheek, but Rogers insisted on it. After seeing the daily, Astaire begrudgingly admitted that she was right to insist on it. Her choice of dress and stubborn insistence on using it were major contributions to what is arguably their most iconic scene together, as was the choreography by Astaire and Hermes Pan, as was Astaire's singing. They weren't doing the same thing, they were each doing different things that all contributed to the whole.

The idea that she always danced until her feet bled is greatly exaggerated. The most famous example, the first one anyone will point to, is the stairway scene from The Last Dance in Swing Time. This took so many takes to get right that her feet were indeed bleeding by the end of it. When you see Rogers glide out the door at the end, she was heading straight for a chair they had waiting for her. Nobody forced her to do this, and in fact the producers suggested they stop filming for the night so she could rest. Rogers and Astaire both insisted they keep going until they got it right. People tend to point to this as an example of her unique female suffering, but her suffering was intensified because she pushed past people trying to persuade her to minimize her suffering. Also, people exclusively focus on Rogers and her feet with respect to this scene, but do you suppose Astaire was ready to go run a marathon afterward? No one talks about him, but he was almost certainly dead on his feet, as well.

I can't speak for the ladies in this thread, but the people I've known IRL who love this quote really wish it were true that all women worked harder than all men at the same things for less recognition. They do this by minimizing the contributions of men like Fred Astaire. That Fred Astaire guy? Pfff, he had it easy! He wasn't even wearing heels! Try being a woman! (I will not try being a woman, thank you.) This is as much a miscarriage of reality as overlooking Rogers' contributions or the unique difficulties of doing this shit in heels. The reality is that men and women, like Astaire and Rogers, generally fill complementary roles. Rogers and Astaire complemented each other. They brought different things to the table and both made significant, different, contributions to the whole. I hate this quote because I think people should look at the Astaire-Rogers movies, and male-female relations in general, as a collaboration between complementary halves, not a zero-sum competition over who's got it harder.

I realize all of this is off topic, but this thread hasn't been on topic since page 1.
 
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Shepard of Hermas said:
Chris-Chan is famous, it's a pretty simple explanation, but then again using Chris-Chan as a counterexample to incels is kind of not the strongest piece of evidence because not only did he end up getting a girlfriend well into his 40s, but it is clear that Flutter is having some serious regrets about ever dating Chris-Chan.
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CWC is a world-renowed artist who lives doing what he loves and doesn't give a shit about what society thinks of him, that attracts the ladies like moths to a flame. But now being serious, Chris is probably being used by Flutter in some way, it doesn't make sense that the same guy who couldn't even start a conversation with a woman in the 2000s can now get a girlfriend (and even potential wife) without improving almost anything about himself, and actually becoming worse in many aspects
 
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