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So I've been researching more into intersex conditions. There's a youtuber who claims to have Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome (AIS). This means that, although they are chromosomally male, their natal development means they developed as female. Aside from non-visible symptoms (i.e undescended testicles in the abdomen), the only physical symptom of this condition is that they don't ovulate and can't get pregnant.

So what are they? ...A woman. Because that's functionally what they are. They were raised as a woman and clearly present as a woman. If they had been born earlier in history, they would be recognised as simply an infertile woman. Most people with AIS (it seems) identify as women and may not even know they have it. The fact they are "chromosomally male" is more of an interesting factoid than something that meaningfully defines them, unless they choose to. Which is what they have done, because they identify as "non-binary" and go by they-them.

What this exposes to me is how functionally useless the concept of being "non-binary" truly is. If even people who have intersex conditions, and could therefore superficially claim that it genuinely applies to them, don't actually benefit from the label in any meaningful way.
I thought we knew theres no such thing as a “male woman”. He is a male, an adult male. So he is a man. Its called testicular feminisation syndrome. And honestly that guy still looks male to me.
 
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I thought we knew theres no such thing as a “male woman”. He is a male, an adult male. So he is a man. Its called testicular feminisation syndrome
Well, no. The role of the AIS is that without it, she would have developed into a male baby. This is the case with all babies, but in this case there was an extra roll of the dice that blocked it. She has female genitalia and breasts. The genitals you have at birth are the most important factor in what your sex is, not your chromosomes. Chromosomes aren't actually that functionally significant, in the sense that nobody raises a child as male or female based solely on their chromosomes. This is why people with Klinefelter are raised as men, they have two X chromosomes but male genitalia.

How come the troons during the Jerry Springer days were more convincing than 2024 troons?
Transtrenders weren't a thing yet. If you were transitioning, you had to be really determined about what you were doing.
 
Well, no. The role of the AIS is that without it, she would have developed into a male baby. This is the case with all babies, but in this case there was an extra roll of the dice that blocked it. She has female genitalia and breasts. The genitals you have at birth are the most important factor in what your sex is, not your chromosomes. Chromosomes aren't actually that functionally significant, in the sense that nobody raises a child as male or female based solely on their chromosomes. This is why people with Klinefelter are raised as men, they have two X chromosomes but male genitalia.


Transtrenders weren't a thing yet. If you were transitioning, you had to be really determined about what you were doing.
He is a male. Genitals are usually a great indicator of sex but AIS proves they can be wrong. It isnt just about the chromosomes, its because they have testicles and no female organs. The vagina is a short, blind ending pouch. CAIS males are over represented in womens sports.
Do you believe that this is a female IMG_2133.jpeg
 
The genitals you have at birth are the most important factor in what your sex is, not your chromosomes. Chromosomes aren't actually that functionally significant, in the sense that nobody raises a child as male or female based solely on their chromosomes. This is why people with Klinefelter are raised as men, they have two X chromosomes but male genitalia.

If you have a Y, then you really are male. It doesn't matter what you look like, or how you act. "Female" isn't a dumping ground category for disordered male development
 
If you have a Y, then you really are male. It doesn't matter what you look like, or how you act. "Female" isn't a dumping ground category for disordered male development
XY females do exist. It is called swyer syndrome, they are very different from CAIS males and have 0 male organs so i consider them to be female IMG_2134.pngIMG_2135.png
Genitals can be very misleading. Females with CAH (male appearing genitals) have been assigned male at birth and when they get older the sex that they really are becomes obvious and they just look like females with boy haircuts
 
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Well, no. The role of the AIS is that without it, she would have developed into a male baby. This is the case with all babies, but in this case there was an extra roll of the dice that blocked it. She has female genitalia and breasts. The genitals you have at birth are the most important factor in what your sex is, not your chromosomes. Chromosomes aren't actually that functionally significant, in the sense that nobody raises a child as male or female based solely on their chromosomes. This is why people with Klinefelter are raised as men, they have two X chromosomes but male genitalia.


Transtrenders weren't a thing yet. If you were transitioning, you had to be really determined about what you were doing.
It's also possible that Springer was lying to us because most of that show was fake
 
XY females do exist. It is called swyer syndrome, they are very different from CAIS males and have 0 male organs so i consider them to be female View attachment 6717713View attachment 6717716
Genitals can be very misleading. Females with CAH (male appearing genitals) have been assigned male at birth and when they get older the sex that they really are becomes obvious and they just look like females with boy haircuts
We actually have a thread specifically for discussion of Swyer Syndrome and disorders like it.
I absolutely despise Troons and their kind, thing is personally I have no issue calling Swyer Syndrome people female because while they have a Y chromosome its basically broken and completely non functional and has zero effect on their development.
I'm not a geneticist but thats the way I understand it from what I've read on the subject.

The thing is Trannies love to use things like Swyer Syndrome as a Red Herring and spurious argument as if it has any relevance to Transsexual bullshit, which it doesn't.
Its an extremely rare genetic mutation, so rare that its existence is irrelevant to any discussion that isn't specifically about disorders of sexual development.
Women with Swyer Syndrome aren't Trannies, have nothing to do with Trannies, and anyone trying to bring up that sort of thing in a discussion about Transgenderism should be treated with the contempt they deserve.
Its a Red Herring and a distraction from the actual issue. The existence of a tiny minority of people with these weird mutations doesn't make a guy who takes artificial hormones and flays his penis a woman.
 
I would still call Swyer syndrome a male DSD. Genetically male. These are rare mutations, and I feel a lot of sympathy for these people. But yeah I just don't consider them female.
The problem is that despite having XY, nothing physically about them is male. There are rare XY females who can even have ovaries. But also swyer is extremely rare. 1 in 80,000. For comparison 1 in 100,000 babies are born with cyclopsia (1 eye)
 
We actually have a thread specifically for discussion of Swyer Syndrome and disorders like it.
I absolutely despise Troons and their kind, thing is personally I have no issue calling Swyer Syndrome people female because while they have a Y chromosome its basically broken and completely non functional and has zero effect on their development.
I'm not a geneticist but thats the way I understand it from what I've read on the subject.

Dude, the XY Swyers still don't go through female puberty, have periods or ovaries, or female hormones. Yeah the Y isn't working so they don't go through male puberty, still doesn't make them female. I know this has nothing to do with troons whatsoever, it just shits me that faulty genetic males get called female. These are mutations carried on the Y chromosome. And tbh all the Swyers I've seen on YT look pretty fucking manly.
 
Dude, the XY Swyers still don't go through female puberty, have periods or ovaries, or female hormones. Yeah the Y isn't working so they don't go through male puberty, still doesn't make them female. I know this has nothing to do with troons whatsoever, it just shits me that faulty genetic males get called female. These are mutations carried on the Y chromosome. And tbh all the Swyers I've seen on YT look pretty fucking manly.
Turners syndrome females (45, X) dont have ovaries or go through periods. I think they just have manjaws but other than that they look female
 
So I've been researching more into intersex conditions. There's a youtuber who claims to have Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome (AIS). This means that, although they are chromosomally male, their natal development means they developed as female. Aside from non-visible symptoms (i.e undescended testicles in the abdomen), the only physical symptom of this condition is that they don't ovulate and can't get pregnant.

So what are they? ...A woman. Because that's functionally what they are. They were raised as a woman and clearly present as a woman. If they had been born earlier in history, they would be recognised as simply an infertile woman. Most people with AIS (it seems) identify as women and may not even know they have it. The fact they are "chromosomally male" is more of an interesting factoid than something that meaningfully defines them, unless they choose to. Which is what they have done, because they identify as "non-binary" and go by they-them.

What this exposes to me is how functionally useless the concept of being "non-binary" truly is. If even people who have intersex conditions, and could therefore superficially claim that it genuinely applies to them, don't actually benefit from the label in any meaningful way.
Nisipisa also reports to have CAIS although she's never made it a focus of her content. She has made references to being childfree not by choice, but otherwise would never trip any flags. She's above the 50th percentile for female height, but not to a degree that stands out due to her ancestry. Her content is normie girl stuff, like Torrid, baking, internalizing her self loathing instead of making it the Internet's problem, and never posting about weird fetish bullshit.
 
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He is a male. Genitals are usually a great indicator of sex but AIS proves they can be wrong. It isnt just about the chromosomes, its because they have testicles and no female organs. The vagina is a short, blind ending pouch. CAIS males are over represented in womens sports.
Do you believe that this is a female View attachment 6717693
So, the thing with CAIS is that it's considered a sex reversal DSD. It usually goes by a case by case basis. The SRY gene is non functional or does not exist, so masculinization does not occur. The issue with undescended testes is whether they produce sperm or testosterone. For Imane Khaleif and Caster Semenya, the answer is yes. For CAIS, no. They are completely non functional and sterile.
 
So, the thing with CAIS is that it's considered a sex reversal DSD. It usually goes by a case by case basis. The SRY gene is non functional or does not exist

This is Swyer syndrome, I believe. In Cais, or Morris syndrome, the SRY gene is functional, but the various andgrogenizing receptors are not.
 
So, the thing with CAIS is that it's considered a sex reversal DSD. It usually goes by a case by case basis. The SRY gene is non functional or does not exist, so masculinization does not occur. The issue with undescended testes is whether they produce sperm or testosterone. For Imane Khaleif and Caster Semenya, the answer is yes. For CAIS, no. They are completely non functional and sterile.
The testicles actually are functional and produce male levels of testosterone, they dissolve the mullerian structures in the womb. The body just cant respond to it. They have male levels of progesterone and they are just pure estrogen. Even females have testosterone. They are feminised males but not females as they can never be fertile as females and have no female organs. There are male advantages that aren’t purely hormonal
 
While talk of DSDs can be educational. Most trannies are not someone with DSDs. If nothing else for the simple fucking fact that to be trans is to make a conscious decision to want to be like the opposite sex and for that to happen you have to first be aware that you are in fact male or female. If someone has a DSD that makes them appear one way but actually is the other that is it's own issue and I wish anyone with that struggle the best. It's likely not easy especially as it may go unnoticed during childhood and then suddenly you have to content during very fragile years that you're not like other girls the way you thought you were. It's the one true gray area for me. You can't really argue semantics based on genes all day because that's not how people necessarily deal with each other day to day.

Again, all that said, most people on the internet who say they have these disorders are lying in order to make being a tranny seem somehow more justifiable. Like they HAD to be a tranny because of some disorder and not because they're just generally mental.
 
I'm necroing some posts, but I was a few pages back, trying to catch up and found myself having full out conversations with each you.

I'm sorry, but from this angle, he looks a little like Mutahar. Bro went from SomeOrdinaryGaymer to SomeBasicBitch.

More pictures of this stunning and brave tranpa of the year.
I've noticed the AGPeaking they have specifically after they install bolt-ons, unlike those with HRTiddys. I can just imagine (much as I'd like not to) a Troon spending hours self-groping more than the average woman getting herself in the mood. Like, they're a personal fidget (which is apropos considering how most, if not all, of them are autistic). I think for Troons, this is the literal height of euphoria. Top of the mountain. It's why many don't get bottom surgery, so they can coom to the sight of their own chest.

This one, however, (u/april6055) went full retard.
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I used to not believe in conspiracy stuff around this, but then people at PornHub admitted the algorithm goes of its way to push transgender porn. Makes u think. Obviously more degeneracy = more hooked on the product though.
Well, the theory certainly works for drugs, doesn't it? Higher tolerance = stronger dose. Sometimes it doesn't even take a conspiracy theory to get the synapses firing. Just take a look around in the world (e.g., nature) and make connections.

Izzy is in the comments saying that he’ll still be successful as a porn performer after the big snip because he will have his stage presence and sexual nature. His audience wont miss his penis at all.
His delusion is unsurprising, considering his (Troons, in general) core feature is being delulu. If we play by one of their (ever-changing) rules, then his goal of transitioning to a woman would be complete. By virtue, this would make him a RealWamxyn™, effectively cutting his very specific, very niche audience. THEY WERE COMING TO SEE A CHICK WITH A DICK IZZY!!!! HELLO?!?!? I mean, sure there'll be some to stick around and see what you look like, but it won't be to coom; and the novelty will wear off fast. You effectively cut your dick to spite your audience. lol

Gee, I wonder why troons (and pooners in this case) are so hated. Genitalia is a primary sex characteristic; is how you even fucking developed in the first place. Your 'man pussy' convinces no one outside of your bubble.
Hot take (and sorry for the collateral damage gay Kiwis) but this is why homosexuality shouldn't have been mainstreamed. This is the endgame many of the so-called "bigots" envisioned, but probably couldn't fully articulate. Not because it's "an affront to God" -- because there are even those who are secularist who don't agree with it -- but because the open-door, accepting, affirming, no-hate, love-is-love, laissez-faire mantra they chanted, created the ultimate paradox (Troons) LGs are just now realizing doesn't bode well for them, but also can't reckon how to decouple themself from.

Had the community continued being relegated to existing "behind closed doors," (and frankly, super gate kept *looking at you Bs) this wouldn't have allowed the obfuscating sub communities -- such as enbies, ace, gender fluid, MAPS, demi gender, omni-gender, spectrasexual, sapphic, robosexual, ceterosexual, etc., and especially the most insidious of all: patient-zero they/themselves -- to "live their truth," they wouldn't be in this precarious position of how to distance themselves from them, when they've effectively invaded every space. Whereas, LGs just wanted equal protection and the ability to marry in peace, Troons are literally at the steps of the highest court in the United States petitioning to corrupt the youth. If you think about it, this actually threatens their existence. Because the conversation is glacier-ing away from "I always knew I liked girls" to "I always knew I was a boy."

In sum, for all their arms-wide-open acceptance of any and all underneath the rainbow, LGs inevitably invited in a straight man with the ultimate ironclad method of outright, unfettered insistence upon them, emboldened by the very amendments of their own constitution, and further insulated from the "-phobic" straights (who, again, intuitively saw the writing on the wall). Truly a "the call is coming from inside the house" moment if I ever seen it.

Troons really are like the Agents in The Matrix (come on irony).

Trans biology is a nonsense. When a clownfish or a frog or whatever changes sex, it’s not because they were born in the wrong body or they were uncomfortable living as a man. Nor do they require surgery or medication to achieve it.
My thoughts exactly! Like, if it is a design feature in comparatively lower life forms, why wouldn't a top-tier version be installed in the planet's most sophisticated being?!?! Wanna know why? Because [points to modern day Troons] you'd have all variations of freaks from one-tit degenerates with functioning peenginas to muscular aberrations with ironic Palumbo bellies because they're pregnant. God knew He couldn't trust us with that kind of power because we'd gone extinct in three generations tops.

You have nothing to do with women, FUCK OFF. Also, he's been a wamman whole 3 months and is already stunning, brave and sharing that ultimate womanly experience of having PCOS.
A dude basically mansplaining, from a position of authority an exclusively female condition.

I love how they basically say our arguments for us but think using trans and cis makes the logic different. "Casting a man as a woman is weird", yes, that's correct! It is weird! Just like in real life when men try to cast themselves as women in the stage play version of their life they foist upon everyone else.
And it essentially begs the question of if being trans is ultimately the destination or journey? If it is the former, then that implies that the definite point is, in fact, an indefinite (in-between) state, undermining what normie society understands is the goal of transitioning: to convincingly assume the life of the opposite gender. Paradoxically, if it's the latter, then that just admits the former, and loops us back around. This also breaks the mantra "trans women are women," because, no they're not. They're trans women (a compromise many are willing to concede, but they tend to oscillate between not accepting this while also self-identifying as).

What this exposes to me is how functionally useless the concept of being "non-binary" truly is. If even people who have intersex conditions, and could therefore superficially claim that it genuinely applies to them, don't actually benefit from the label in any meaningful way.
Well... there's the social credits, right...?
 
And it essentially begs the question of if being trans is ultimately the destination or journey? If it is the former, then that implies that the definite point is, in fact, an indefinite (in-between) state, undermining what normie society understands is the goal of transitioning: to convincingly assume the life of the opposite gender. Paradoxically, if it's the latter, then that just admits the former, and loops us back around. This also breaks the mantra "trans women are women," because, no they're not. They're trans women (a compromise many are willing to concede, but they tend to oscillate between not accepting this while also self-identifying as).
I mean, I know this might not make sense to some but the point is that they're men being treated like women. That's the fetish. If you don't in some way acknowledge the maleness it doesn't work because then you're not treating the man as if he's a woman. Get it?
 
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