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Which is Better

  • Chicken Little

    Votes: 383 26.0%
  • Hunchback 2

    Votes: 53 3.6%
  • A slow death

    Votes: 1,036 70.4%

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Just saw Moana 2, thought it was fine. Pretty mid, 1st one was better.
So the Inside Out 2 gambit. Seems like it's the only thing current year +9 Disney can do that doesn't lose bucketloads of money. A weak sequel without overtly blatant faggotry that is just a rethread of the first one for the most part.

The sort of crap that was direct to video 30 years ago is now the headliner.
Despite being the lesser actress, the girl who played Ariel was capable of looking innocent and curious and not like she'd just seen Chris Hemsworth take Viagra.
Well, she certainly looked like she was a sea creature.
She probably had a role in making me the sort of person I am today, with my love of horror and the macabre.
Was it Don Bluth that said the whole "you can be scary in any content oriented towards kids as long as there is a happy ending" or something of the sort? The one that left a strong impression in me in that sort of sense was the aircon scene in the Brave Little Toaster.


Not a fraction as impressive as the witch transformation, but that shit scared me as a kid. That stuff is really missing in today's media for children.
"We have cast Gal Gadot to play the character who is jealous of the protagonist's beauty and then casted a girl that looks like a hammerhead shark to play the protagonist."

Bold move, Cotton.
Well, the next post already covers it
I have a feeling from the trailer that they intend to redefine "fair" to mean "just", rather than in reference to her skin tone, and that will be the impetus for her usurping the queen, because "The people deserve kindness!"
But yes, this is their grand plan. There is an interview with the stupid spic explaining how "fairest" is about who is the most "just" which I'd dare say is something that a cruel monarch would give very little fucks about.
 
The dwarfs look terrifying. The reason for this is that their features are exaggerated while the eyes are human sized and that makes them look creepy. They should have make the eyes fit the rest of the head and body.
I'm just amazed Snow (((White))) isn't a fat groid with vitiligo.

As for the "dwarves," they look like the freaks in Aphex Twin's "Come to Daddy" video. Just horror movie shit.
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can we address the best bit of the original - that being how needlessly fucking scary it is - and how weaksauce and safe and lame and gay the remake is by comparison.
I absolutely agree with your whole comment, but funny you should bring this up. Didn’t Ziegler say in an interview that the original movie was all fucked up and scary, and she didn’t like that?
 
God, I heard a little bit about him bitching about that. “Oh, so you think it’s okay to portray dwarves living in a cave?
That midgety-ass retard needs to shut the fuck up. When did he go all woke anyway?

Also dwarves didn't live in "caves" as such, at least in the Tolkien version most current media uses. They lived in magnificent mountain halls.
You know what these live action remakes remind me of? They're the celluloid equivalent of when they brought out those alternative Harry Potter covers for adults who felt insecure reading a children's book in public.
This C.S. Lewis quote has never been more apposite:
“When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up."
 
I absolutely agree with your whole comment, but funny you should bring this up. Didn’t Ziegler say in an interview that the original movie was all fucked up and scary, and she didn’t like that?
She just said that the prince was a creepy stalker because he looked for Snow White. Looking for girls who have been left for dead in the woods is stalking behavior, that's why search parties looking for missing hikers always get arrested.

I'm not sure if she actually watched it, she seems to hate Disney movies.
 
I absolutely agree with your whole comment, but funny you should bring this up. Didn’t Ziegler say in an interview that the original movie was all fucked up and scary, and she didn’t like that?
That's what she claims she was taken out of context for.

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However, she's specifically alluded to the fact that the prince "stalks" her and the movie is not about him and his scenes might get cut.


So you could argue she was taken out of context in some places but it didn't change what she's critical of in the original and her obnoxiousness about it.
 
No, and you can thank Peter Dinklage and his insecurities.
I'm actually convinced that his comment was more sinister than him being insecure, I think that the fucker's a ladder puller who thinks that just because he played Tyrion Lannister in Game of Thrones, he can be the only dwarf actor in the big leagues. How about you look at some of his other roles he played in the past? Elf, where the joke was "look how short he is the main character thinks he's an elf", Infinity War where he was a blacksmith but the joke was that he was a dwarf who happened to also be giant, 3 Billboards where his biggest contribution to the story (to my recollection) was canceling a date because he thought Frances McDormand was embarrassed to be dating a dwarf, an adaptation of Cyrano de Bergerac where the difference in why Cyrano got Christian to deliver the letters was that Cyrano was short instead of having a hideously big nose? Probably more that aren't even coming to mind, my point is that he doesn't give 5 fucks about insecurities or taking "offensive" roles that make fun of dwarfism or talk down on dwarves, he just wants to make sure he's one of the only famous dwarf actors in Hollywood.
 
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That's what she claims she was taken out of context for.
It's not really "out of context" if the only "context" people didn't know is she's an absolutely moronic dipshit who just needs to shut the fuck up instead of just being an open ignoramus.
I'm actually convinced that his comment was more sinister than him being insecure, I think that the fucker's a ladder puller who thinks that just because he played Tyrion Lannister in Game of Thrones, he can be the only dwarf actor in the big leagues.
David Rappaport was a way cooler dwarf way before anyone even heard of this fag dwarf.
 
Probably more that aren't even coming to mind
He was in this cute little black & white artsy movie about people making a cute little black & white artsy movie about people making a cute little black & white artsy movie.

He played a dwarf actor who freaks out and loses his shit about how dwarfs are portrayed in movies.
 
I concur with a lot of the thread about why these live-action remakes are creatively bankrupt, but sadly it has been a long time coming.

Back in the late 1950s, the Golden age of animation was abruptly bought to an end thanks to the Advent of television which gave families a reason to stay home and engage with free programming thus killing the need for movie going for a while.

Animation used to be a spectacle because you could only engage with it through movie theaters, but when TV came around most studios just shrugged, and tossed their animated franchises to various networks all for a dirt cheap price and the idea that they could make more money through marketing purposes (animators be damned).

The above is already horrendous, but then you add in a bunch of toothless politicians who started to scapegoat cartoons for whatever political unrest was going on at the time and that ended up causing various studios to further sanitize the cartoons they were airing.

What resulted was a flurry cheap and poorly made cartoons that were not only incredibly safe, but came off as overly preachy and this period lasted from the '60s all the way until the late 80s.

The end result of all of this is that several generation of Western kids grew up being programmed to think that animation was just something you grew out of after you reached a certain age and that mantra has stuck around indefinitely.

Disney is creating these remakes specifically for these insecure people who don't want to be called "childish" for still appreciating animation so creating CGI/photorealistic versions of Simba and company appeals to them so they can go and indulge with it and be nostalgic.

It's a pretty defeatist mindset All things considered because if anything, a lot of these remakes just emphasize why the originals were so groundbreaking since they were made during the Animation Renaissance.

Animation just makes it easier to accept certain things kind of like musicals, because there is a good reason why most musical films don't do well and that's because they don't really connect well with reality despite looking like it fits into our realm.

It's taken only until recently for people to realize that.
 
I just watched that abominable Snow White trailer and am grinning at one of the "dwarves" exclaiming "It's a human!" How many people are going to walk into this s film not knowing the dwarves are meant to be Fae or whatever?

Damn Dis, are short people not human? I'm going to thoroughly enjoy the chaos if that choice backfires (I mean, it already has but still, more fuel to the pyre!)
 
That "It's a human!" line stood out to me, too.

While there's a definite difference between mythological dwarves and real life people with dwarfism, I don't think, in the original Disney Snow White, there's ever any proclamation that the dwarves are a different species. They're drawn in a different way to Snow White, Prince Charming, the huntsman and such., they're more exaggerated and cartoony in their design and I feel like that visual shorthand is enough to differentiate them from those characters without having to have them explicitly spell out that these creatures are their own thing, or needing to dwell on it or deliver unnecessary expository dialogue about it. Showing, not telling, I suppose.

I'm also fairly confident that the word 'human' is never used in the original.

I dunno, maybe this is just me, but somehow even using the word 'human' just makes it seem less... 'Magical'?

I had a similar issue with the use of the word 'goblinoid' in Dungeons and Dragons to describe goblins, hobgoblins, bugbears and such. 'Goblinoid' sounds like a word a modern-day nerd would come up with to describe them, not the sort of word that people living in a medieval fantasy setting would use.

I feel like plausible word use and vocabulary is an underrated aspect of fantasy worldbuilding.
 
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confident that the word 'human' is never used in the original.
Pretty sure the word "dwarf" is never used either. They are always called the seven little men. And when they first see Snow White sleeping they say "it's a girl." It is kind of fucked up to take the heroic short guys and turn them into cgi subhumans.
 
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