2024 Syrian opposition offensives - The first Syrian rebel offensive against Government forces since March 2020

[mindlessobserver]

I hope for the sake of the Christian community in Syria that this is true, but I don’t believe it.


It’s weird to me this thread is suddenly so pro-regime change. None of these toppled dictatorships have become anything except refugee sources for the west.

It's really not that strange. Assad hitched his wagon to Russia and Iran, both whom made very powerful enemies. Watching European cities get bombed indiscriminately by Iranian made drones fired by Russia, followed by Iranian backed militias slaughtering people on October 7 and kicking off another major war in the Middle East makes me less then sympathetic for a regime that allies with them.

Tomorrow's problems are for tomorrow, as has been stated repeatedly. Today is about humbling Iran and Russia, and bringing down Assad is a vehicle for doing that. Sucks for the people in Syria who tied their fate to him, but that's just the way things go. He should have been more competent or picked more reliable allies

 

[EyeGuy]

Russia is begging Israel to rescue their soldiers stationed near the Golan. What a humiliation.

Axisbros... it's tough.

 

[World in Scarlet]

I disagree with the idea that a thread without mongoloids spamming lies and insults is automatically a "hugbox".

Let's not forget that the people who call it such are lunatic snowflakes, who get triggered into seething meltdowns whenever they see an opinion they do not like. They are themselves incapable of existing outside of hugboxes and echo chambers, and they don't have the cognitive ability to imagine that not everyone is like them, so they project.
You can review basically any post in this thread containing the term "NAFO" to back up my claim.

You'll find that they're also going on about how people here worship HTS, even though there's not a single post which does that. How come? They worship terror regimes of Russia and Iran, and project that onto others.

The way they view the world has very little basis in reality. They never stop posting garbage sources no matter how often they are wrong. Being right isn't the point, it's about in-group signalling and being comforted (among other things, mental dysfunction is many faceted). They live in a fake world created and maintained by social media influencers and government propaganda.

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Russian Aerospace Forces Su-34 airstrikes on Hayat Tahrir al-Sham terrorist rear facilities in Idlib .

Although this does cause some damage to the jihadists, it does not prevent their advanced columns, already tens of kilometers from their rear, from continuing their successful offensive.

In the absence of the technical capability of domestic bomber aviation to effectively destroy moving targets, Ka-52 helicopters with Vikhr and "Orions" [comparable vehicle to American MQ-1B Predator] with X-UAVs could save the situation, but almost all of them are busy with other tasks in the SMO.

[the videos are 120p 2003 cell phone quality garbage, as is expected from Russian optics, and show nothing of note]
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A Russian Aerospace Forces Ka-52 attack helicopter launches unguided rockets at militant positions on the outskirts of Homs .

Apparently, the same one that was spotted this afternoon.

Unaccustomed to what they saw, Syrian sources provided the footage with a caption stating that a Russian helicopter had entered into combat with a jihadist drone.

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For those who aren't used to the Russian military, you're seeing an attack helicopter launch unguided missiles in indirect fire mode. Like rocket artillery, but 100 times more expensive.

 

[Buttigieg2020]

Tomorrow's problems are for tomorrow

This line of thinking is why there are literal jihadists protesting on the streets of Paris and New York with your tax dollars.

Today is about humbling Iran and Russia

To the benefit of whom? Western governments absolutely hate their own citizens. I’d rather they be tied up against a boogeyman. That at least divides their attention.

 

[im5!XxhO]

It’s weird to me this thread is suddenly so pro-regime change. None of these toppled dictatorships have become anything except refugee sources for the west.

Assad caused a lot of internally and externally displaced persons. Using him as your man to reduce immigration is stupid. With him in power there is zero chance Syria will be anything but a shithole. With him gone, there is at least a theoretical chance the country improves. Plus weakening Russia reduces the strain on Europe. The weaker Russia is, the better for the rest of Europe since they don't have to invest as many ressources in deterence. Overall, Assad being overthrow is a small net positive and all the cope is a nice bonus.

 

[draggs]

To the benefit of whom?

Not to the benefit of my sides, that's for sure

Western governments absolutely hate their own citizens.

And bit by bit, we're taking care of that at the ballot box

I’d rather they be tied up against a boogeyman. That at least divides their attention.

It's too late for them whether they're distracted by foreign adventures or not

 

[Buttigieg2020]

With him gone, there is at least a theoretical chance the country improves.

There is a theoretical chance that Assad wins this conflict. I wouldn’t bet money on that either.

Plus weakening Russia reduces the strain on Europe.

Which is a mixed bag. A foreign enemy requires western governments to at least pretend they care about nationalism and the fate of their country.

 

[mindlessobserver]

To the benefit of whom? Western governments absolutely hate their own citizens. I’d rather they be tied up against a boogeyman. That at least divides their attention.

Boogeyman claims implies the threat is imaginary. Ukrainian cities getting bombed, French corporations getting kicked out of the Sahel and all those Israelis massacred on October 7 are not, however, imaginary.

 

[Otis Mallebrok]

It’s weird to me this thread is suddenly so pro-regime change. None of these toppled dictatorships have become anything except refugee sources for the west.

• The reason that this thread is mostly anti-Assad, is because he is losing. That makes the pro-assad crowd shut up. If he was winning, they would be posting non stop.
• The solution to unwanted foreigners in the west is not to prop up dictators abroad, but to remove unwanted foreigners from our soil and protect our borders. Both can be done with 9mm parabellum
• Most Syrian refugees has fled from the Assad regime, not from the rebels.

 

[Buttigieg2020]

French corporations getting kicked out of the Sahel

This is less valuable to me than the likely destruction of the two-thousand year old Syrian Christian community (and their architecture and traditions) and the displacement of even more Arabs.

If the likely Islamist government leaves them alone, I’ll be fine with Assad getting the boot, but historically they’ve done the opposite.

 

[Balr0g]

Guess we can put in the "Ahh shit here we go again" meme. Though perhaps this will be the final run and Syria will finally be the next caliphate

 

[draggs]

The Russian chair force tried to bomb that big bridge over the Orontes for the second time in two days

Missed for the second time in two days

Bridge is still there doesn't even look like it took cosmetic damage

But they've totally killed nine gorillion terrorists from the air in the last month, it's Joever for the jihadis

 

[R00T]

This is less valuable to me than the likely destruction of the two-thousand year old Syrian Christian community (and their architecture and traditions) and the displacement of even more Arabs

Have you not read any segment of the thread where the leader of the HTS has been telling everyone to ignore the Christians, admonished some rebels for knocking down a Christmas tree, and ensuring the churches were allowed to stay open so worshippers could participate in a holy day?

This Julani guy appears to be smart. I say that because he’s recognizing that it’s a multicultural world, and to get bogged down in attacking his own people because they’re different would impede on the goal of taking the country. As it stands he has shown no intent to harm any Syrian who doesn’t stand in their way, even cutting deals to regime police and services who surrender to let them retain their jobs, pensions and positions into the new state. They have QR codes posted to allow citizens to get in touch with the community and local civil services being put up. This isn’t the playbook of terrorists marching across the country. It’s the actions of a force that want to commit legitimate change.

I’m willing to say wait and see on this. If Syria of all places manages to be the first modernized Islamic State who knows what other change might come about. The old generation of mujahideen are aging out, and now you’ve got these younger guys that are more aware of the modern world.

 

[mindlessobserver]

This is less valuable to me than the likely destruction of the two-thousand year old Syrian Christian community (and their architecture and traditions) and the displacement of even more Arabs.

This is cope. If Assad was a halfway competent ruler he would not be in this mess. The simple truth is the Assad Regime has always been brutal, corrupt and unstable. As with the father, so with the son. It was always on borrowed time. If the Syrian Christians hitched their wagon to it then that is there own fault. If they are smart they will just as quickly unhitch it.

 

[Crex Crex]

The SAA has withdrawn from Deir Ezzor and handed it to the kurds.

 

[Smashed & Slamed]

Have you not read any segment of the thread where the leader of the HTS has been telling everyone to ignore the Christians, admonished some rebels for knocking down a Christmas tree, and ensuring the churches were allowed to stay open so worshippers could participate in a holy day?

Because Muslims are known for their honesty. There is no reason to believe that this will continue should they win. Muslims always claim to protect the people of the Book when they need them.

 

[World in Scarlet]

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Looks like this is the new front that had been teased.

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[555777555]

It’s weird to me this thread is suddenly so pro-regime change.

Syrian regime has tried to build a nuclear reactor. Had Israel not blowed it up, Syria would pose a threat to the world.

Rebel groups on the other hand are too incompetent for nuclear.

None of these toppled dictatorships have become anything except refugee sources for the west.

Nobody forces the West to accept refugees. They are the ones who have voted for the politicians who support mass immigration, they are the ones responsible for the refugee crisis. Israel borders Syria yet has very few refugees.

 

[World in Scarlet]

The Russian chair force tried to bomb that big bridge over the Orontes for the second time in two days

The aftermath of the nighttime strike by the Russian Aerospace Forces' Su-34 on the viaduct bridge in Ar-Rastan, connecting the provinces of Hama and Homs, through which militants are transferring their forces.

To finally disable such a bridge, systematic strikes with heavy air bombs were needed, capable of collapsing the roadbed, which the militants have neither the strength nor the ability to repair. However, the moment has already been lost.

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[Chuckwagon]

The Farouq Brigade has proclaimed its return in force to Homs. For context, these guys were an early FSA group that turned to Islamism in the war's first years and were very active in Homs; however they mostly disappeared under heavy pressure from the SAA/Hezbollah and various internal schisms (one of their breakaways, the Independent Omar al-Farouq Brigade, was the one with the infamous liver-eater from way back then). Any one of them who didn't get on the green buses bound for Idlib back in 2018 certainly would've gone into hiding and are probably the most effective & hardened of the local rebel cells that just popped up in places like Rastan & Talbiseh now.

It should be noted that Homs in general is actually more hostile ground for Assad than Hama was; Hama got buckbroken so hard by his dad back in 1982 that it actually did not see too much nor too zealous rebel activity for most of the war, meanwhile Homs and al-Rastan specifically were the sites of some of the first true battles between the SAA and early FSA, and the last of the organized Homs rebels held out until 2018 (there had been like 6 or 7 failed Hama offensives before the successful one just now, and they were all done not just to take Hama for the rebellion but also to try to rescue these guys). Homs itself was one of the likelier cities to fall to the rebels in those early days, and only saved for Assad by Hezbollah's entry into the war.

Further to the south, the Southern Front rebels claim to have reactivated all around Daraa and are trying to flip all the SAA troops down there that they aren't killing, these defectors have been taking their equipment with them. If Assad continues to freefall anyone who isn't an Islamist had best hope these guys succeed & consolidate in the south so they can serve as a check on HTS, they were the (actually) most moderate of the major rebel factions due to Daraa having been the site of the original non-Islamist protests against Assad; having huge numbers of SAA defectors (before, and now they evidently hope to do so again); and even fielding a Druze armed wing (currently reportedly trying to wrest Suwayda from its SAA garrison, they've already taken some prisoners) - maybe the only case of non-Kurdish rebels having a minority division.



In the east, the SDF(?) have filmed themselves in Abu Kamal - if that's gone then Iran's overland route to resupply & reinforce Assad coming out of Iraq has been cut, between that and Hez being unable to get anything or anyone past Israeli bombing raids in the south, this would leave Assad isolated from outside help. The American pawns who had been chilling at al-Tanf for many years have also reportedly gotten off their asses and are trying to beat ISIS (who are naturally also exploiting the disintegration of the SAA) to Palmyra.