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[trent]

Some interesting articles from my favorite DC rag, The Hill:

• "Democrats say they’ll avoid election challenges on Jan. 6" (archive). It seems that many Democrats want to avoid any accusations that they intend to stage their own January 6th. So, they do not plan on holding any protests. We shall see if they stick to this or backslide.

I'd say that officially the Democrats won't stage any kind of protest but you'll still have the extreme left internet retards showing up to do something. The established party knows they got steamrolled by Trump so it would be stupid to try to have any kind of public protest because people are sick of their shit at the moment.

They ran the wrong candidate in the first place and then replaced him with an even worse candidate so throwing their toys out of the pram on the day Trump gets sworn in again would potentially lock them out of being within an asses-roar of the Presidency for a couple of decades.

4 years of a half-senile DC swamp creature followed by a DEi hire who has never won a fucking thing honestly in her life is going to seriously cost the Democrats. This is a situation that calls for a complete reset with the party and i don't know if they have it in them to do this. They'll probably try Hillary again for 2028 and some 30 year old Twitch streamer called DudeWeedBonerHitler will beat her because the internet thinks it's funny.

 

[Verpa Teutonica Ingens]

some 30 year old Twitch streamer called DudeWeedBonerHitler will beat her because the internet thinks it's funny

That's ridiculous, we're talking about the President of the United-fuckin'-States of America here! He'd be a 35-year-old Twitch streamer named DudeWeedBonerHitler.

 

[World Famous Quasi Payer]

Are you going to sit there and tell me that America has the same drive and energy today that it did 250 years ago?

250 years ago "America" was still a small collection of colonies hanging off a vast, barely explored, and barely populated continent in the greater British empire. 1776 wouldn't happen for another two years. An "American Empire" wouldn't even be a realistic description until after the American-Mexican war. So I'd say America has more drive now than it did 250 years ago. America's real problem isn't that we have an enemy that is undefeatable in the field, or our people don't have any drive/lack the virtue needed to be a great nation. Our problem is that we are two nations trapped in one, fighting over an increasingly oligarchic central government.

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

250 years ago "America" was still a small collection of colonies hanging off a vast, barely explored, and barely populated continent in the greater British empire. 1776 wouldn't happen for another two years. An "American Empire" wouldn't even be a realistic description until after the American-Mexican war. So I'd say America has more drive now than it did 250 years ago. America's real problem isn't that we have an enemy that is undefeatable in the field, or our people don't have any drive/lack the virtue needed to be a great nation. Our problem is that we are two nations trapped in one, fighting over an increasingly oligarchic central government.

And this is why I made comments about people not reading the essay. Glubb defines what he means by empire in the essay and if people are not going to read the essay and use that definition then there's no point in discussing this, because we're comparing apples to screwdrivers. If you're going to criticize Glubb's views of the lifecycles of Empires, then use his definition. If you're not going to do that, there's no point to this.

 

[MirrorNoir]

They made a movie about getting payback on scummy healthcare people, one of the better Saw sequels, too.

Sadly Saw 10 super hard retconned the entire plot/premise of Saw 6 by revealing that the insurance executive was 100% right to deny Jigsaw said treatment because it turned out to be a HUGE fucking scam to bilk money out of rich people dying of cancer. Jigsaw got said "treatment" in between Saw 1 and 2 and basically killed everyone running the scam in horrific fashion, when he realized he had been conned.

 

[LiquidKid]

And this is why I made comments about people not reading the essay. Glubb defines what he means by empire in the essay and if people are not going to read the essay and use that definition then there's no point in discussing this, because we're comparing apples to screwdrivers. If you're going to criticize Glubb's views of the lifecycles of Empires, then use his definition. If you're not going to do that, there's no point to this.

The problem is, even with his definition, his essay is still pseudo-intellectual bullshit that’s not worth anyone’s time or energy. We should argue it because nobody should be reading it anyway

 

[Calandrino]

Egypt lasted like 3,000 years. Governments that are not headed by an avatar of Horus simply do not work.

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

The problem is, even with his definition, his essay is still pseudo-intellectual bullshit that’s not worth anyone’s time or energy. We should argue it because nobody should be reading it anyway

If his critics aren't willing to actually engage with his work, use his defined terms and the like, why should anyone give a single fuck what you think of it? Criticizing his work while using a different definition of the term that he uses is motte and bailey-style disingenuous bad faith bullshit. If you don't like his work, fine, but most of the criticism in this thread isn't exactly demonstrating comprehension of it.

 

[just Reading a post]

It seems that many Democrats want to avoid any accusations that they intend to stage their own January 6th.

You will get some weirdo antfia UC Berkley fags who will turn up with trans flags and shit, but they will mald and seethe in a corner and wont do anything big.

 

[Betonhaus]

Egypt lasted like 3,000 years. Governments that are not headed by an avatar of Horus simply do not work.

I suppose that's easy to do when your entire governing structure gets burned down and rebuilt every time your king dies.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

I suppose that's easy to do when your entire governing structure gets burned down and rebuilt every time your king dies.

I'll admit I haven't dug into (heh) ancient Egypt stuff in decades but I recall a lot of fairly smooth transitions when it was the usual father to son heir, the freakshow stuff like Akaenhaten or whoever Tut's uncle that tried the monotheism (and guess who the one god's one prophet is!) was?

 

[Biggest Bubba]

You niggas need to stop dooming about America. The libshits are a dying breed they are just throwing death spasms right now.

 

[Betonhaus]

You niggas need to stop dooming about America. The libshits are a dying breed they are just throwing death spasms right now.

A cornered animal is at its most dangerous. Until they accept reality they will resort to anything. And they have no intention of accepting reality.

 

[Dr. Ricearoni]

Of course violence is never the answer. Violence is the question.
The answer is always, yes.

If violence is never the answer then why do people stop askin' stupid questions when I answer em with it?

 

[LiquidKid]

If his critics aren't willing to actually engage with his work, use his defined terms and the like, why should anyone give a single fuck what you think of it? Criticizing his work while using a different definition of the term that he uses is motte and bailey-style disingenuous bad faith bullshit. If you don't like his work, fine, but most of the criticism in this thread isn't exactly demonstrating comprehension of it.

That’s because he was a retard and his work was bad. You can’t keep saying the same shit over and over and expect the results to somehow be different. You dropped the equivalent of a movie bob tweet in essay form and expect people to waste their time reading it

 

[Quiet Guy]

Edit: Less than 100 pages until Peanut's.

What do you mean? Did I miss something?

 

[World Famous Quasi Payer]

Glubb defines what he means by empire in the essay and if people are not going to read the essay and use that definition then there's no point in discussing this

What is his definition than? I've looked a little at the essay and he doesn't seem to give a clear definition of what an empire is. Only that there is a period of expansion, defense (or stabilization) and eventually decline. The stages are roughly age of pioneers, conquest, commerce, affluence, intellect, and finally decadence. Even by these stages I still don't see how America follows this pattern. Pioneering (take over of the natives) didn't finish till about the 1900s. Which at that point America had fought three major powers (some several times), and fought other new world nations. Maybe I'm trying to find a hard definition, when it simply isn't what he's talking about.

You niggas need to stop dooming about America. The libshits are a dying breed they are just throwing death spasms right now.

Libshits are, progressives and conservatives (speed limit liberals) aren't. The Republican party won because a democrat, with a bunch of other democrats won for them, after they (the democrats) were all shut out of the Democrat party for being 10-20 years behind the curb.

 

[invisibult plus+]

What do you mean? Did I miss something?

Before the thread was temporarily locked, people mentioned about dedicating page 10000 to Peanut, whose death was so ridiculously unwarranted it probably helped Trump win the election. For context, he was a pet squirrel who died because his owner kept a "rabies vector species," a raccoon, without a permit/license. He was big on social media and his owners were trying to get a sanctuary based on him*, but a woman from TX got upset about his fame and reported his owners to gov't organizations in NYS. One day, NY raided his owners' house, arrested them, and took Peanut and Fred the raccoon away. Peanut bit one of the men who took him, but he and Fred were both put down.

*They tried to make him a wildlife representative of sorts, but he ended up representing absurdly heavy-handed government overreach instead.

 

[Levitcus prime24]

You niggas need to stop dooming about America. The libshits are a dying breed they are just throwing death spasms right now.

Doomers should throw themselves off a bridge or shut up.

What is his definition than? I've looked a little at the essay and he doesn't seem to give a clear definition of what an empire is. Only that there is a period of expansion, defense (or stabilization) and eventually decline. The stages are roughly age of pioneers, conquest, commerce, affluence, intellect, and finally decadence. Even by these stages I still don't see how America follows this pattern. Pioneering (take over of the natives) didn't finish till about the 1900s. Which at that point America had fought three major powers (some several times), and fought other new world nations. Maybe I'm trying to find a hard definition, when it simply isn't what he's talking about.


Libshits are, progressives and conservatives (speed limit liberals) aren't. The Republican party won because a democrat, with a bunch of other democrats won for them, after they (the democrats) were all shut out of the Democrat party for being 10-20 years behind the curb.

What do you mean by speed limit liberal exactly?

 

[LiquidKid]

What is his definition than? I've looked a little at the essay and he doesn't seem to give a clear definition of what an empire is. Only that there is a period of expansion, defense (or stabilization) and eventually decline. The stages are roughly age of pioneers, conquest, commerce, affluence, intellect, and finally decadence. Even by these stages I still don't see how America follows this pattern. Pioneering (take over of the natives) didn't finish till about the 1900s. Which at that point America had fought three major powers (some several times), and fought other new world nations. Maybe I'm trying to find a hard definition, when it simply isn't what he's talking about.


Libshits are, progressives and conservatives (speed limit liberals) aren't. The Republican party won because a democrat, with a bunch of other democrats won for them, after they (the democrats) were all shut out of the Democrat party for being 10-20 years behind the curb.

Since he’s being such a asshat about it, let me break it down.

Glubb describes an empire as a superpower that has a great influence on world affairs.

This is a terrible definition of an empire because it ignores what an empire actually is, a group of countries all ruled by a single monarch. So the fact that he ignored this right away makes his entire essay invalid, but fine, let’s continue for his sake.

He claims they all follow the same structure:

1. The Age of Pioneers: where the relatively unknown race of people burst out with great initiative, optimism, and energy



2. The Age of Conquests: rapid expansion, often through military conquests and the establishment of dominance over surrounding regions



3. The Age of Commerce: conquest shifting to to trade and economic prosperity



4. The Age of Affluence: wealth and luxury that leads to complacency and a decline in the values that drove the empire's success



5. The Age of Intellect: increased emphasis on intellectual pursuits and cultural achievements



6. The Age of Decadence: decadents causes the empire to lose its vitality which eventually leads to its decline and fall

The problem is this whole system doesn’t really apply to any of the empires that had existed before Glubb and didn’t apply to the few after.

The affluence, intellectual, and decadence very rarely appear any of these empires as all of them seem to die out when they fail at commerce or get invade by immigrants or a stronger power. And literally none of it applies to the United States, China, the Dutch, the French, Astria-Hungary, the USSR, or even the British. The absolute closest is Rome, and it’s a a massive stretch to compare it.

Believing in Glubb’s shitty essay is like reading the communist manifesto and thinking it’s actually a good idea.