2024 Syrian opposition offensives - The first Syrian rebel offensive against Government forces since March 2020

[Catch The Rainbow]

Channel 12 Israel: Israel targets chemical weapons manufacturing labs in Damascus

 

[Pygmy Giraffe]

I have a strong feeling this intelligence operation got pushed forward tremendously after Trump won the election unexpectedly. They're getting one last regime change war for the road here, right before the power gets cut. The grim part is that Trump would have given the green light to anything Israel asked for to expand its power base.

 

[Just_Somebody]

So, uh....are the rebels ISIS-esque scum or something that might be marginally better than the current regime? Or is a mix of both, and therefore, like most of these rebels with a mix of factions, the ISIS/Taliban types will murder or send the "moderate rebels" scurrying away once they win?

 

[societyguy01]

Totally insane how quickly this all happened
F for all the innocents in Syria who are about to get a front row seat to the next act of this total shit show
And for those hoping that all those rapefugees get resettled - don't hold your breath

 

[Snekposter]

Israel would be absolutely retarded to give back the Golan Heights, if that's what you're talking about. It would be an absolutely sane move, though, for both Israel and Syria, to come up with some alternative concessions to resolve that issue. So don't expect it to happen.

I was never trying to imply they would even consider handing it back. But some sort of deal with Syria that basically treats it as a Mutually Militarized Zone as opposed to a DMZ would potentially be tolerable.

So, uh....are the rebels ISIS-esque scum or something that might be marginally better than the current regime? Or is a mix of both, and therefore, like most of these rebels with a mix of factions, the ISIS/Taliban types will murder or send the "moderate rebels" scurrying away once they win?

We don't know yet. The al-Jolani guy who looks to be the big guy on the rebel side used to be part of the first group of ISIS-likes but he's acting like he's part of the second now, the remainder being better than Assad but not much. All we can do is wait and see.

 

[AnOminous]

So, uh....are the rebels ISIS-esque scum or something that might be marginally better than the current regime? Or is a mix of both, and therefore, like most of these rebels with a mix of factions, the ISIS/Taliban types will murder or send the "moderate rebels" scurrying away once they win?

I don't even know. They're probably scumbags, too. They always are.

 

[Coberald]

Now she, and the rest of these Syrians, can go back to their own country.

What do you think their copes for not going back will be?

 

[Maori Kiwifruit Growers]

I'll never not be mad that the UAE used their infinite oil money to turn Dubai into a generic metal-and-glass skyscraper city instead of building something actually good-looking.

Some of the stuff the gulf makes looks like standard arab architecture mixed with modern styles. It's not my thing but to each their own.

 

[The Gene Genie]

So, uh....are the rebels ISIS-esque scum or something that might be marginally better than the current regime? Or is a mix of both, and therefore, like most of these rebels with a mix of factions, the ISIS/Taliban types will murder or send the "moderate rebels" scurrying away once they win?

They were literally supported by ISIS until al-Qaeda told Jolani to start fighting them. Jolani is a radical Salafist Jihadi and as soon as he takes power the pretense will fall away and he will massacre every Alawite, Christian, and anyone non-Salafi he can get his hands on until the country slips deeper into chaos.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

Increased military deployment in the Golan Heights area: Following the developments in Syria - the IDF and the Northern Command launched an attack in the buffer zone in the Quneitra area, in order to strengthen the defense of the border. In accordance with the assessment of the situation in the Northern Command and the Home Front Command, it was decided that in the four Druze settlements in the Golan Heights there will be no school classes today. Learning will be possible in the kindergartens. In the rest of the Golan Heights, studies are taking place as usual. The IDF deploys roadblocks along the Golan Heights. Traffic in the area will be restricted as needed. All the agricultural areas adjacent to the Syrian border have been declared a closed military area, and the entry of farmers there will be restricted.

 

[Toji Suzuhara]

What do you think their copes for not going back will be?

A lot of the ones in the West are (or rather were) pro-Assad, for example

 

[Coberald]

A lot of the ones in the West are (or rather were) pro-Assad, for example

So you're saying if we force all the rapefugees to go back Assad still has a chance?

 

[Enoch Emery]

So, uh....are the rebels ISIS-esque scum or something that might be marginally better than the current regime? Or is a mix of both, and therefore, like most of these rebels with a mix of factions, the ISIS/Taliban types will murder or send the "moderate rebels" scurrying away once they win?

Jolani believers will say that they're totally different even though he has explicitly stated in the past that his disagreement with ISIS is that they started implementing their ultra-strict sharia before winning completely, not that they implemented their ultra-strict sharia. Expect him to turn and start doing literally everything he claimed he wouldn't do anymore.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

Increased military deployment in the Golan Heights area: Following the developments in Syria - the IDF and the Northern Command launched an attack in the buffer zone in the Quneitra area, in order to strengthen the defense of the border. In accordance with the assessment of the situation in the Northern Command and the Home Front Command, it was decided that in the four Druze settlements in the Golan Heights there will be no school classes today. Learning will be possible in the kindergartens. In the rest of the Golan Heights, studies are taking place as usual. The IDF deploys roadblocks along the Golan Heights. Traffic in the area will be restricted as needed. All the agricultural areas adjacent to the Syrian border have been declared a closed military area, and the entry of farmers there will be restricted.

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This was the previously reported Israeli plan Israel is seriously considering establishing a security belt (on its eastern border in the north) that will extend from northern Quneitra, starting from the city of Al-Ba’t, and passing through Khan Arnabeh, Jabata Al-Khashab and Hader, all the way to the outskirts of Beit Jan and the Hermon area in the Damascus countryside controlled by the Syrian regime. Israel will be able to open a new battle front against Hezbollah from Syrian territory, and will deprive them of the topographical advantages (difference in elevation) on the border with Syria, which provide it with freedom of movement.

 

[Niggs Monaghan]

Who must go?

 

[Enoch Emery]

What do you think their copes for not going back will be?

That the country is run by Jabhat al-Nusra and they're going to get beheaded. Same reason countries won't deport rapists to Afghanistan.

There is a million times more humanitarian reasons not to deport these migrants now than there was a month ago. They're never going home, unfortunately. The time to deport was when it looked as though Assad had won (and lift the sanctions at the same time so he actually can!)

 

[Unyielding Stupidity]

So, uh....are the rebels ISIS-esque scum or something that might be marginally better than the current regime? Or is a mix of both, and therefore, like most of these rebels with a mix of factions, the ISIS/Taliban types will murder or send the "moderate rebels" scurrying away once they win?

The main rebels pushing the offensive used to be ISIS-esque scum (they're a rebranded former Taliban affiliate that also briefly pledged allegiance to ISIS during their peak), but they're currently claiming to be tolerant towards minorities. Given the fact that several of their members engaged in activities that show those Islamist ideals haven't left after capturing Aleppo, it's probably just taqiyya; expect them to backpedal on their "moderate" stance just as fast as the Taliban did after pushing the Americans out.

 

[IAmNotAlpharius]

Strange, I don't remember saying anything about Russia in this thread or even be remotely pro-Assad. The schizo you're orbitting is having a meltdown over his homosexual fantasies being mocked. Can you even read lilbro?

I just said you lasted longer than Assads army did. (Respect).

So many years of a civil war in deadlock and a regime that has survived for over 5 decades falls apart in 11 days. What a way for things to end.

Its like watching an ice sheet slowly recede until it suddenly collapses.

 

[Chuckwagon]

So, uh....are the rebels ISIS-esque scum or something that might be marginally better than the current regime? Or is a mix of both, and therefore, like most of these rebels with a mix of factions, the ISIS/Taliban types will murder or send the "moderate rebels" scurrying away once they win?

Difficult to tell. Al-Jolani, the biggest bigshot among the rebel leaders right now, is a 'former' Al-Qaeda (and briefly also ISIS) chief who routinely engaged in sectarian massacres back in 2014-ish but claims to have basically gone woke, by Islamist standards, more recently and has managed to refrain from murdering every Christian/Shiite/Alawite/etc. he saw on his road to Damascus so far. It might be taqiyya, it might be genuine pragmatism (man's still an Islamist, I doubt he will ever love the religious minorities for real even if he bows to realism for now). The Kurds in the northeast and the Free Syrian Army guys in the south are the latter, they've both famously fielded 'diverse' units (women fighters & Assyrian Christians for the Kurds, a Druze regiment called the Al-Jabal Brigade and a smaller Christian unit called the Jesus Christ Brigade for the latter).

The latter two can't defeat Al-Jolani and the Islamists head-on without outside aid but are strong enough to give him headaches if he insists on crushing them, the FSA in the south have also just demonstrated that they can seemingly die and then come back out of nowhere to put the hurt on their supposed killers; this (existing large rival factions which can and will shoot back if they're threatened) is something the Taliban did not have to deal with when they took over A-stan. Al-Jolani himself is nothing if not an extreme pragmatist & opportunist, so he may yet concede to a short-to-medium-term powersharing agreement to avoid adding more years to this already 13-year-long conflict where he's already been bled quite a bit (before this 11-day blitzkrieg I mean, HTS took a serious hammering between the failure of the first siege of Aleppo & the Idlib ceasefire). We'll likely see what he decides early next year.

In other news Wikipedia, that great arbiter of truth which everyone knows & loves, has officially put out a 'Fall of the Assad dynasty' article. (Archive)

 

[thx1138]

I am expecting uploaded footage of the bases by rebels with captured personal and equipment. I am unsure if Russian properly evacuated.

Given the Russian propensity for just walking off and leaving shit behind, I'm going with this.