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Is it over?

  • Yes, I am sad and need a Ben backrub :(

    Votes: 332 31.8%
  • No, we will be back, autism too strong

    Votes: 528 50.5%
  • Cams down until we roll into Bloodgames 2

    Votes: 185 17.7%

  • Total voters
    1,045
Now that season 3 has ended I would rank the seasons as such:

1. s1 - The most consistent viewing experience by a wide margin when compared to the other seasons. I was drawn into the show and entertained from day 1 but the show progressively got better and better as time went on and I can't recall a "drop off" point in the show at all beyond a few off days. This was helped by Jon and Letty's "character arcs", as my opinion on both of them was reversed by the end of the show which is something I never expected as a viewer on day 1. The whole season just felt very fulfilling by the end of it.

2. 2.5 Bloodgames - I can't really say anything about Bloodgames that hasn't been said to death, it was a really fun and unique experience that almost felt literally catered to the Kiwi Farms audience by having Jace himself being a main player that parodies terminally online porn addicted weebs. It was fulfilling seeing all the best fish (for the most part) get to come back and do something that was more fun rather than torture (depending on their autism level) and it felt like those fish earned it. Knowing it will never be done again in the same form as 2.5 makes it even more special.

3. s3 - This season is very strange, it had the highest highs and also the lowest lows. The last two weeks were easily the lowest depths I've ever seen Fishtank slip to. But let's be honest, no one is gonna remember this season for the last couple weeks of dumpster water that it was but rather the first 4 or so weeks of Famous House/Fishtank before it all fell apart. And most importantly Burt, who is a true one of a kind fish that we will never see anything like again I can guarantee that. The Cell's later portions between Burt and Simbal is an all time legendary Fishtank moment as well as Alex B and the Ogre invasion among many other moments. For me personally, the highs outweigh s2 by far, but the lows drag it beneath s1.

4. s2 - Season 2 was amazing in the first 10 days but it never recovered from losing Cole in my opinion. It's almost like if in s3 they kicked Burt out on day 10, no way it would've recovered.
 
Why would it spoil future seasons
just get more people who don't know about the show
problem solved
This is probably an extremely unpopular opinion but I don't think it's very important to find people who don't know what the show is. Unless you strike 1 in a million gold like Burt they're just going to all be NPCs who love pedos like Brandon and Sam will just rage at them and ruin the show again. The show was also more boring when TTS was completely off/censored and they will have to do that every single time if the people don't already know what the show/MDE is. Reality show NPCs are also more likely to immediately pack up and leave than mde/fishtank fans will be. Just get anybody who seems interesting and then fuck with them. Not that complicated.
 
This is probably an extremely unpopular opinion but I don't think it's very important to find people who don't know what the show is. Unless you strike 1 in a million gold like Burt they're just going to all be NPCs who love pedos like Brandon and Sam will just rage at them and ruin the show again. The show was also more boring when TTS was completely off/censored and they will have to do that every single time if the people don't already know what the show/MDE is. Reality show NPCs are also more likely to immediately pack up and leave than mde/fishtank fans will be. Just get anybody who seems interesting and then fuck with them. Not that complicated.
nah i dont think its a crazy unpopular opinion
fans can be okay on the show... but they definitely can be super cringe soyface people, i guess it just depends

i'd also say though with fans i think the money matters less. im sure theres a ton of fans who would go on the show for free.
dont think that flies as much with normies which is why they were giving people day rates. like i think laronquavius or w/e his name was said he got a day rate for being on

also i want to second the people who are saying they should bring back cryo and shoot him. but for real shoot him. in minecraft.
 
I don't care what the fine print of the contract said, if the winner doesn't get $50k then Sam is a fucking jew. It's a profoundly dirty thing to do.
Sam was clearly trying to double his money with blackjack and give both burt and binx the 50k; they were aware that weren’t getting anything.
 
fans can be okay on the show... but they definitely can be super cringe soyface people, i guess it just depends
Fan contestants who are in on the joke to me will almost always be worse then people with no knowledge of the show. Want real reactions from the fish when a crazy TTS comes through? Nope, they already saw that in season 1 they aren't shocked. Want to send them a plushie? Oh wow that's just like Josie from season 1! Want them to freakout over crazy Sam Hyde coming in an a silly suit? Nope they already know who he is and the joke is ruined. A huge part of the show is shocking and freaking out the fish. If they are fans this element is totally lost.
 
1. They paid everybody a day rate, and most certainly peeled off a token prize for Burt. They didn't leave Burt in the desert with no money. Neither did they leave Mizzy and Binx high and dry in Las Vegas with no ride home. I'm sure they both got an Uber to the airport and plane tickets home. It's a show, they gave it a dramatic-looking ending.

Jeff, however, they probably did leave high and dry in Vegas if he really stole Luke's stuff. He's lucky they didn't have him arrested if he really did it. Considering his history, it's not out of the question. If we don't see Jeff in Season 4, we'll know he really did steal Luke's stuff. Otherwise they're sure to have him back as a freeloader in future seasons.

2. They didn't really lose $50,000 on one roulette spin. Again, it's a show. They probably bet 50 $1 chips. Unless you're a big studio that's renting out the entire casino floor, the casinos will not let you "fake bet", even for a video, so they definitely lost something. Someone on the crew got a permit and worked with the casino in order to make this scene happen. Cameras are not allowed on the casino floor without a permit. Nor would the roulette dealer have the power to allow them to film; management okayed this scene before it happened. I got schooled once for taking a picture of a statue in the entryway of a casino that was right on the edge of the floor, and the picture didn't even have any machines or tables in it. The casinos take this shit very seriously.

3. They definitely got a tow truck for the RV. God only knows how much that cost. Even if the production SUV had 4 wheel drive, it probably wouldn't be powerful enough to pull the rv out. It takes a special tow truck to pull an rv, and it costs more than your usual tow. Maybe somebody on the crew has a premium AAA account that includes rv towing; mine does, but it costs extra.
 
Fan contestants who are in on the joke to me will almost always be worse then people with no knowledge of the show. Want real reactions from the fish when a crazy TTS comes through? Nope, they already saw that in season 1 they aren't shocked. Want to send them a plushie? Oh wow that's just like Josie from season 1! Want them to freakout over crazy Sam Hyde coming in an a silly suit? Nope they already know who he is and the joke is ruined.
Gotta say I agree with this, one of the biggest entertainment factors in Fishtank is seeing contestants reactions to TTS and with fans that is totally neutered.

Season 3 is a perfect example - a big part of the reason why Burt is the greatest contestant ever is how reactive/susceptible he was to TTS. Alex B losing his mind over the Wild Randy TTS is also one of my favourite things I've seen on Fishtank.
 
You can't strip the tangible representation of 50k from weirdos and not expect one of them to cause problems for you.
S4 is gonna suck a little bit more. The omnipresent looming ability for Sam to just refuse winnings will hang over viewers and competitors alike.
If someone wins, they've won. It's so souring to watch an unspoken agreement broken so boldly. That's how you go from a Big Brother gameshow-type deal to random idiots in a house with overpriced speakers in the span of 5 seconds. It's such a turn-off and the stakes are gone.


Seeing as in ~2 years and dozens of cast members, we haven't had anyone complain except legit basketcases like Summer or bridge burning retards like Alex, I think it's safe to say they're all paid pretty well behind the scenes. Even Simmons got paid.

That being said, while I do like the chaotic and unpredictable nature of the show, throwing any semblance and/or structure of a 'contest' out the window is fairly unsatisfying as a viewer. I said it last night, but for all his bluster about how 'rich' he is and how $50k means nothing to him, Alex B got on his hands and knees and went full slobbermutt in the cell for the "wolf" challenge. Pretty sure the prize there was like $200. And that's exactly what it is, I want to see retards debase themselves in challenges that couldn't be shown on a broadcast network, for petty cash and a grand prize that's barely more than a wage slave's annual earnings. Even if it's all bullshit, if they continually appear to not honor the contest, all they're going to end up with is tryhard MDE dickrider faggots like Tayleigh. And I like Tay, don't get me wrong, but 12 of her would be fucking unwatchable.
 
They paid everybody a day rate, and most certainly peeled off a token prize for Burt. They didn't leave Burt in the desert with no money. Neither did they leave Mizzy and Binx high and dry in Las Vegas with no ride home.
It's a good point to make that they are being paid something and there's actually a good chance that Luke and Mizzy were the ones that got paid the most money out of anyone since they both said they would only return if they got paid more than the standard weekly rate the contestants get (assuming Burt didn't actually get paid $50k)
 
1. They paid everybody a day rate, and most certainly peeled off a token prize for Burt. They didn't leave Burt in the desert with no money. Neither did they leave Mizzy and Binx high and dry in Las Vegas with no ride home. I'm sure they both got an Uber to the airport and plane tickets home. It's a show, they gave it a dramatic-looking ending.

Jeff, however, they probably did leave high and dry in Vegas if he really stole Luke's stuff. He's lucky they didn't have him arrested if he really did it. Considering his history, it's not out of the question. If we don't see Jeff in Season 4, we'll know he really did steal Luke's stuff. Otherwise they're sure to have him back as a freeloader in future seasons.

2. They didn't really lose $50,000 on one roulette spin. Again, it's a show. They probably bet 50 $1 chips. Unless you're a big studio that's renting out the entire casino floor, the casinos will not let you "fake bet", even for a video, so they definitely lost something. Someone on the crew got a permit and worked with the casino in order to make this scene happen. Cameras are not allowed on the casino floor without a permit. Nor would the roulette dealer have the power to allow them to film; management okayed this scene before it happened. I got schooled once for taking a picture of a statue in the entryway of a casino that was right on the edge of the floor, and the picture didn't even have any machines or tables in it. The casinos take this shit very seriously.

3. They definitely got a tow truck for the RV. God only knows how much that cost. Even if the production SUV had 4 wheel drive, it probably wouldn't be powerful enough to pull the rv out. It takes a special tow truck to pull an rv, and it costs more than your usual tow. Maybe somebody on the crew has a premium AAA account that includes rv towing; mine does, but it costs extra.
I don't think anybody is under the impression that Burt is wandering around the desert holding a comically oversized check for $0.00

But we have been led to believe nobody got the $50k, which violates the premise of the show.

For a guy who talks about faith and how to be a "good man", it's a very dirty thing to do.

Since S1, we have seen two things, less money given to the fish, and the value of fishbucks go down from $500 to $100. All the while the monetization of the show has been at a steady uptick. More often production feels totally okay blatantly asking for money. For what?
 
2. They didn't really lose $50,000 on one roulette spin. Again, it's a show. They probably bet 50 $1 chips
They spent like 30 minutes showing the dealer count the 50k live on stream and then converting it into chips. If the 50k roulette spin was fake then they found a casino to be in cahoots with them and stage the whole thing.
 
But we have been led to believe nobody got the $50k, which violates the premise of the show.
We have been led to believe it, but I doubt it's really true. All the remaining people except Jeff most likely got some money and a paid trip home. And if they made up the whole Jeff-stealing arc, Jeff also got some money and a ride home.

What they led us to believe during the show and what really happened are two different things. For all we know, they're all in Vegas having an after-party right now, and will travel home tomorrow.

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They spent like 30 minutes showing the dealer count the 50k live on stream and then converting it into chips. If the 50k roulette spin was fake then they found a casino to be in cahoots with them and stage the whole thing.
That's highly possible, that the casino helped them stage the scene, since they couldn't have filmed the scene at all without casino help and cooperation. It's also possible that they really lost 50k. You'd think that everyone's reaction to losing the $50k would be a lot more dramatic if it was real though. The only thing that's 100% sure is that, whatever amount of chips they put in the table, they really lost it.

What we saw on the show and what really happened aren't necessarily the same thing, on a whole host of issues, not just the roulette scene.
 
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They spent like 30 minutes showing the dealer count the 50k live on stream and then converting it into chips. If the 50k roulette spin was fake then they found a casino to be in cahoots with them and stage the whole thing.

Pretty sure that's exactly what happened. Also why director cam intentionally went off the table when the spin happened, and why Sam said literally seconds before they sat down that it was all fake and just for a TV show (I'm assuming that had something more to do with legal liability with the casino than consoling Burt). I know the wiggers are mostly incompetent, but I'd assume that it wouldn't be too hard to call around Vegas casinos and say "hi we're filming a TV show with a gambling scene, can we set something up with you?" I rented my storefront out for a movie shoot last year, it's pretty cut and dry.
 
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