UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot outside Hilton hotel in Midtown in targeted attack: cops - Just Part and Parcel of visiting a Big City

Angry Alt Right Nerd said:
The infighting between the old lolbertarian right and the new communist right has been funny to watch.

Anyways I'm having a really hard time believing in the Mcsnitch story, if only because it should be impossible to identify someone's face from only what the police have released.
Alternate theories:
- Parallel reconstruction
- The guy intentionally got himself caught, which would make sense why he's carrying all that stuff and a manifesto on him
- He's not even the right guy
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yes to all of it, he probably wanted to be caught, or at least that became his plan once he got wind of the social media reactions, no way in hell does he get convicted for life. the only time he'll be in prison is when he's awaiting trial. if he can get bailed out he'll be able to become a huge social media star from it, think about how beloved zimmerman or rittenhouse were by the right except its literally everyone who isn't part of the c-suite.

he's the real life joker.
 
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Fruttasecca said:
Oh yeah managing hundreds of billions of dollars, hundreds of thousands of employees, millions of clients, navigating the rigged Jew market and tard wrangling the board adds nothing to society and is a hands off job. He was just sitting in his office, feet on the table, rubbing his hands thinking about whose life to ruin next. Because thats what the CEO of the UnitedHealthcare Group does, he personally approves or disapproves the thousands of claims they have coming in every day.

Everybody loved him and he leaves behind a mourning family, but I guess its his fault because he didnt consult his crystal orb to divinate his random, out of nowhere murder by some schizo, you fucking assmad NIGGER.
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Imagine simping for a CEO.

Helvetia said:
CEOs aren't people, hope that clears it up!
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When asked by reporters how it felt to take a human life, Mangione said "I wouldn't know, I killed a CEO."
 
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SBG said:
The man in reason a McDonald’s worker would care to report someone like this is they expect a payday. They’re not having moral dilemmas over whether to report as it’d be mostly about the money for them.
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It's the breakfast shift. It might have been some old retiree who gets all their news from the MSM that were empathetic to the victim. Loving father and husband, wanting reform, etc. etc.
 
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Fruttasecca said:
Everybody loved him and he leaves behind a mourning family, but I guess its his fault because he didnt consult his crystal orb to divinate his random, out of nowhere murder by some schizo, you fucking assmad NIGGER.
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However nice Mr Thompson may have personally been to his friends, close colleagues, and family, the fact still remains that he presided over a company which denied over 30% of insurance claims (around twice the industry average), and was even allegedly using shoddy AI algorithms to expedite the process. Since the downstream consequence of these practices is people being denied access to affordable (and potentially vital) healthcare, one could quite credibly make the argument that Mr Thompson's job was largely predicated upon killing people at scale.

Look, I have already condemned the murder earlier in this thread, but it would be simply wrong to pretend that Thompson was a wholly innocent bystander who did nothing to provoke his killer's actions. He was a central figure in a rapacious industry that in a just world wouldn't exist, and if people are seriously interested in avoiding this sort of thing happening again (as we should hopefully all be), then this has to start with the recognition that the conversation must begin with the ways that we can alleviate the material conditions and injustices which led to it.
Homegrown Homophobia said:
Just for once I want to see both of those faggots be forced to debate and argue economic issues instead of more stupid and divisive culture war crap.
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They can't, because the neoliberal supply-side economics doctrine that grifters like Shapiro and Walsh peddle is wholly indefensible as anything other than an asset stripping exercise designed to funnel money from working families to rich capitalists (many of whom also finance the conservative commentators and organizations which advocate it). It doesn't produce strong economic growth, it doesn't create American jobs, it doesn't aid social mobility or meritocracy, it doesn't lead to an increase in tax revenue, and it has historically lead to the spiraling of both economic inequality and the national debt.

The whole purpose of supple-side economic policies is to enrich the sort of people who will happily watch as formerly vibrant towns are deindustrialized, as once reliable jobs and livelihoods are taken away, as communities are demoralized and impoverished, never to recover, and be able to say "good job, I earned my bonus this year", before jetting off to the nearest tax haven.

The supply-side arguments as they relate to healthcare are especially weak, and one only has to invoke the 4-word phase "price elasticity of demand" to utterly demolish them. Is it any wonder that these grifters never debate serious economists?
 
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If you need a metaphor:

We don't have kings anymore. But an unaccountable CEO who decides on life and death is about as close as we will get.

If you come at the king you had best not miss. Luigi did not miss.

GuntOfTheLitter said:
I think people are acting looney toons right now. Sure, the CEO probably was as evil as people are saying but you can't just go around shooting people in the street. That shit is for niggers.
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We are all niggers in the eyes of evil men.


Smh so many "right wing" ppl claim to be Christians yet did not understand the core of his message.
 
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bort420 said:
Smh so many "right wing" ppl claim to be Christians yet did not understand the core of his message.
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Romans 12:17-21: "Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everyone. If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” says the Lord. On the contrary:

“If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
if he is thirsty, give him something to drink.
In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head.”
Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good."

Vengeance is the same kind of sin as all others - attempting to take God's place by deciding for ourselves what is right and wrong, rather than trusting in his judgement, both now and on the last day.

Or perhaps, if we're taking the example of Jesus most closely, we can look at the Garden of Gethsemene. Matthew 20:50-54: "Then the men stepped forward, seized Jesus and arrested him. With that, one of Jesus’ companions reached for his sword, drew it out and struck the servant of the high priest, cutting off his ear. “Put your sword back in its place,” Jesus said to him, “for all who draw the sword will die by the sword. Do you think I cannot call on my Father, and he will at once put at my disposal more than twelve legions of angels? But how then would the Scriptures be fulfilled that say it must happen in this way?”

Peter felt he was just in attacking those who came to unjustly arrest (and, ultimately, crucify) Jesus - yet Jesus warned him not to try and fix the injustice through violence, but to let God's work be done.

If one wishes to say that they are not a Christian, therefore they are not held to these standards, who am I to disagree? (Though our society was built on this foundation, so trying to take a wrecking ball to mercy will not end well).

But any follower of Jesus should see the issue here clearly. Dehumanisation by insurance companies cannot be solved by further dehumanisation in the name of vengeance.
 
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Cassius Crayfish said:
But any follower of Jesus should see the issue here clearly. Dehumanisation by insurance companies cannot be solved by further dehumanisation in the name of vengeance.
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Multiple people even in this thread have shared stories about previously-denied claims getting approved following the murder. So I guess it did solve it for them.
 
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captioned video still from Luigi's arrest

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6MillionCoofs said:
Have you considered they might view it through the lens of this being God taking action and therefore there is nothing wrong this it?
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The first part of that claim can certainly be true. The latter cannot.

God used the Babylonians to bring judgement on Assyria, but that did not make the Babylonians righteous, which is why they were also judged later.
 
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Cassius Crayfish said:
The first part of that claim can certainly be true. The latter cannot.

God used the Babylonians to bring judgement on Assyria, but that did not make the Babylonians righteous, which is why they were also judged later.
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What did baby Jesus say about healthcare companies and C-suite cooking up an AI to automatically deny 90% of claims and laugh while masses of people suffer and die?

I must have missed the part where sweet baby Jesus gazed up at the north star and said the free market will always know best.
 
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