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The excessive shilling
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The excessive shilling
I sometimes briefly wonder if I should give people like Connor and Mouse a chance. Then I go back to telling YT not to recommend me any of their shit because life is short and it's easier to just dislike them. My gut tells me they're both mendacious egomaniacs and don't deserve my time.
 
A performer keeping her child out of the spotlight and giving them a modicum of privacy is typically a good thing.
Bro, don't be stupid. People who are so sick they're mostly bedridden/in a wheelchair with such a weak immune system a common cold can kill them can't have a fucking kid. Do you know what a toll on the body a pregnancy is?

Nevertheless, the issue isn't that she's not showing off her kid every chance she gets, the issue is she pretends she doesn't have a kid. She's not a privacy-concerned parent, she's a deadbeat and a liar.

Let's say her disease only started affecting her life in college and she had her child before that: why hide it then, if it makes sense? "I liked her when she was just a sick girl, but now that I realized she's actually a sick mother I HATE her!" - said nobody ever. There follows the answer: it doesn't actually make sense. Her story does not add up. Now I don't believe she's not sick with anything and is faking everything; it's a bit of a stretch and I don't think she's intelligent enough for such a long con, but she could definitely be fudging details, (is)omitting things, and being vague when it's necessary.
 
Is she just gonna go through all the Civ games?
That's good eats.
Autistic woman discovers Civilization is top of the line cinema.

The excessive shilling
I'd definitely say it is safe to say there is some astroturfing going on here.

I sometimes briefly wonder if I should give people like Connor and Mouse a chance. Then I go back to telling YT not to recommend me any of their shit because life is short and it's easier to just dislike them. My gut tells me they're both mendacious egomaniacs and don't deserve my time.
I would say your gut is very correct here.
I feel ick about her daughter and how she was basically erased from the timeline.
Not wanting your children to be exposed to a social media related thing I think is fine, but from what I understand they went from talking about it to denying the existence of it for not exactly those reasons.
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the issue isn't that she's not showing off her kid every chance she gets, the issue is she pretends she doesn't have a kid. She's not a privacy-concerned parent, she's a deadbeat and a liar.
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While I'm at it. Path is spreading like a plague. Its probably FoTM but its good FoTM
 
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I never at any point suggested she should be showing off her kid. Christ. Plenty of streamers have kids they don't parade around. What is unique to vtubing, however, is this weird "oh hey that person that I specifically mentioned on stream suddenly no longer exists and if you even so much as mention them you're banned." It's the same weirdness that happens when folks shift identities and then are suddenly this new person that never existed before and don't you dare mention anything from the past. Some of them are at least cool about it, and I get that for a lot of them it's due to corpo bullshit, but that doesn't mean we should just accept it. And Mouse doesn't even really have an excuse beyond "it would hurt my image for people to think I'm not a pure chaste sick girl". If such things don't bother you in the slightest I don't know what to tell you other than you are treating the 2d fantasy WAY too seriously.
 
Bro, don't be stupid. People who are so sick they're mostly bedridden/in a wheelchair with such a weak immune system a common cold can kill them can't have a fucking kid. Do you know what a toll on the body a pregnancy is?
Here is a writeup from the organization studying the disease Mouse has discussing how women with the condition can and do have children.

This whole angle is fucking stupid and proven wrong with a singular google search.
Nevertheless, the issue isn't that she's not showing off her kid every chance she gets, the issue is she pretends she doesn't have a kid. She's not a privacy-concerned parent, she's a deadbeat and a liar.
A decision can have multiple reasons for it, it can be for both the privacy of the child, but also because unique to streamers and vtubers, a lot of folks lose their fucking minds if they find out any personal information about the vtuber having a boyfriend or their sex life. She talked about the kid in a time period when she was a literal who, the risk of something akin to a unicorn meltdown is low at that level of viewership (and at that point in time the way that mindset about vtubers specifically had not yet been turned up to 11 from the popularization of the bastardized concept of "idol culture" that took root in the western fanbase)

Fauna used to talk about her partner back in the day as lemonleaf, but never made a single mention of it once she became Fauna. She's not some sort of demon harpy for that fact, she's just sidestepping unecessary drama caused by a cluster of autistic retards online. In their shoes I'd literally to the same thing because why deal with that shit, while also exposing a child or loved one who doesn't want that kind of attention on them, if you don't have to.

There are exceptions to this of course, with vtubers that try to sell themselves as some sort of GFE bullshit, who at that point hiding those personal details takes on an additional layer of "she's hiding it because she needs to sell herself as a potential girlfriend for money and is being dishonest specifically to support that" (shoutout to Rushia's menhera ass) But from anything and everything I've ever seen of her Mouse hasn't ever done that.

Is it obscuring or intentionally hiding some portion of who she is? yes, and every single vtuber, hell streamer, does this to some extent. There isn't a vtuber out there corpo or otherwise who is making their entire personal life an open book. so if vtubers selectively choosing to not reveal some of their personal information on it's own is that big of a red flag I don't know how anyone with that position ever got into this hobby.
 
Genuinely the most cringe subculture I have ever had the misfortune of stumbling across on the internet. You aren't even allowed to mildly criticize them without being banned and the fanbase are a bunch of retarded children and glowies funding this dysgenic bullshit.

Its even worse when some of them are genuinely talented artists, but what do they do with that talent? Waste it on mundane uncreative boring shit and satanic outfit cringe like they're all carbon copy diablo mobs. It doesn't make you le quirky or unique when every other grifter is doing the exact same fucking thing.

"so? just leave this corner of the internet then." Well I fucking cant because they militantly shill them everywhere and invade even the most niche websites and fandoms and push out any fans who talk about the fandom with pointless off topic vtuber gossip spamming. Can't even find an obscure imageboard without some colony of these retards shilling hololive or some big vtuber corporation.
 
Genuinely the most cringe subculture I have ever had the misfortune of stumbling across on the internet. You aren't even allowed to mildly criticize them without being banned and the fanbase are a bunch of retarded children and glowies funding this dysgenic bullshit.

Its even worse when some of them are genuinely talented artists, but what do they do with that talent? Waste it on mundane uncreative boring shit and satanic outfit cringe like they're all carbon copy diablo mobs. It doesn't make you le quirky or unique when every other grifter is doing the exact same fucking thing.

"so? just leave this corner of the internet then." Well I fucking cant because they militantly shill them everywhere and invade even the most niche websites and fandoms and push out any fans who talk about the fandom with pointless off topic vtuber gossip spamming. Can't even find an obscure imageboard without some colony of these retards shilling hololive or some big vtuber corporations.
Is that why you garbo-reacted me in the College Football thread? Or was that cause your a Bama fan who can't accept their losses?

Doublepost but
Autistic woman discovers Civilization is top of the line cinema
I hope this means Lumi gets her into the mega-autism of Crusader Kings
 
How does that comparison with Vstats and Ironmouse's Weekly stats prove anything?, its deliberately comparing something from a week total and the cumulative views from Jan-Nov

Scaling Ironmouse's stats from that week to barely 3 months mogs everyone in that image in hours watched
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I dont even like defending the tungsten aids rat but its still a dishonest and retarded comparison
 
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Is it still a creepshot if it's taken by a woman? You really never know what cursed stuff Gigi is going to say next
 
Steam Punk Slut just uploaded a new video of her playing Dead Space
I sometimes briefly wonder if I should give people like Connor and Mouse a chance. Then I go back to telling YT not to recommend me any of their shit because life is short and it's easier to just dislike them. My gut tells me they're both mendacious egomaniacs and don't deserve my time.
I can sympathize with Mouse, for the reason that Kai Cenats fans (mostly feral gen alphas,niggers,or both) attacked her for simply surpassing him in sub count, even when he told them to chill the fuck out, fuck Connor though, he's just an orbiter, all of the Trash Taste fags are
 
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How does that comparison with Vstats and Ironmouse's Weekly stats prove anything?, its deliberately comparing something from a week total and the cumulative views from Jan-Nov

Scaling Ironmouse's stats from that week to barely 3 months mogs everyone in that image in hours watched
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I dont even like defending the tungsten aids rat but its still a dishonest and retarded comparison
my post is mostly directed to average and peak CCV on an average day, not mouse for example being in a Rust server event with guaranteed 20k+ CCV, examples being Filian or Neuro having higher CCV than her one day than the next day she has a higher CCV, Usually its slightly less or above 10k, While Gura can pull 20k-40k CCV and than just fuck off and get the same number again like not other hololive EN member comes close.

The amount of times Twitch has kissed her ass, I was atleast expecting she would have a return on investment of getting the same CCV as Gura on an average day not her having 8k and filian having 9k somewhere within a week.
 
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