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I wish Shaft adapted the ending. But I don't know if it has the talent left.
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I'd love to see them try if only because they would be obliged to track down Ootsuki Ken and make him sing another OP
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Got to ask, did you read it weekly as it was coming out or in a single swoop? I don't discount rereading Bleach for the lols some day and there are series that are much better when you can read in chunks instead of dripfed. I will also admit that Dandadan's chapter count is around when soul society was ending, so there is a lot of leeway to shit itself later. Doesn't really change that once the dust settled, I saw Bleach as the weakest of the "big 3" and how I remember it.
That I'm not buying. Gave me the same impression of chemistry that Naruto and Hinata had which was "bare minimum, no reason for it not to work, but they barely interact anyway". Hell, Inuasha and Kagome had a lot more going on and that was another main pairing that took ages to go anywhere (though I'll give Bleach this, it never did the "will they won't they" dance). Anyway, I'll make sure to use a magnifying glass if I reread it.
There was a time in anime where there seemed to be a "add a giant robot into it" for the hell of it mandate. Eureka 7 and Ccode Geas really feel like they are from that time.And it's perfectly serviceable mind you, just not the focus of the show outside of how armed conflict is depicted or in the Nirvash's case, be a gigantic McGuffin.
Never saw Wing, but I can certainly see the inspirations with how yaoi bait that series seemed to be. And never noticed it but yeah, there definitely is a bit of a something something when you compare Setsuna and my boy Sousuke... I mostly remember 00 since it's the last mainstream Gundam series I've seen. Probably also stuck with me more than Seed and Destiny due to watching it in chronological order. I do remember 00 had it's own share of stupid melodrama (we had a backup Lockon at home).
I hope to everything that is holy that there is a gag in here...
Got me there.
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IIRC only in the context of people saying it was a "Gundam updated for the modern era" (meaning the 2000s/War on Terror period). And it really feels like it, like the first season has random suicide bombings and has a story arc where the US (who now controls all the Americas and the president lives in a giant tower behind where the White House still is) deploy to not-Iraq (although strangely Azadistan is clearly not-Iran) to fight terrorism and even features an obviously Muzzie religious leader who almost seems to be based on Iraq's infamous Shia leader Muqtada al-Sadr.
Character designs were by Yun Kouga, who was literally one of the original fujos and got her start drawing yaoi doujins of Saint Seiya and shit. But 00 has my favorite character designs of any Gundam anime since it's pure appeal, both male and female. Attractive women and handsome men are everywhere, totally politically incorrect in the Current Year even with its literal diversity. Most of the bad parts are in season 2 since they had to write in a bunch of random conflicts to pad out the length. I don't think the writers exactly knew what they were doing since it ended almost perfectly fine with season 1 (just change the ending a bit).
Setsuna definitely is a lot like Sousuke. He's not as funny though, and more just obsessed over becoming a Gundam than protecting his gf like Sousuke or Heero for that matter. I don't think it's too much like Wing either other than it stars handsome boys and has the same vague story of they go from the heroes blowing shit up to villains un-needed in the new age. Oh, and the second half is very messy and not that great, even if Wing was never that good and 00 S1 is really the only good Gundam TV series since 1999.
Code Geass is basically "what if we mixed Death Note with one of those old 80s mecha shows that point out how bad foreigners are screwing over Japan?" Too bad it's like Death Note where they wrote themselves into a corner and had to come up with stupider and stupider gimmicks.
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For sure, and for me I think I prefer the more personal character stories in like an E7 or Code Geass even if the mechs themselves are less centralized.
It might be sacrilege but I'm totally okay with mechs being set dressing that are just an accepted part of the world so long as the rest of the story is actually strong enough to make up for it.
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's anything bad, far from it. I love Eureka 7 and Code Geass started great even though I think it shit itself on the second season. I just consider that "mecha" tag that you would see referencing them to be pretty misleading since those two shows focus on other things. Hell, Darling in the Franxx is mecha yet the parts I liked the most by far where the moments toward the end of "how do you fix a society that lost the concept of family".
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No, that time was the 80s. Eureka 7 and Code Geass try to reenact that era, but do so very poorly because they can't be bothered to have lots of action like those 80s shows did.
Yeah, Wing is a lot more a cool Sentai show while 00 gets deeper into worldbuilding and politics. I don't mind Wing at all. I think it has some cool designs, good characters, and is generally a good Gundam show for kids. I can't really criticize Wing because it's so clearly for kids who are too old for Sentai shows but too young to watch Amuro deal with his mentals, so I'm not the target audience and that's okay. 00 is Wing's setup for older fans, so it's more engaging if you've seen other Gundam shows. It's kind of neat because, even if the designs aren't that interesting aside from Exia and Kyrios and it's literal tranime, it's basically a Gundam AU pre-colonization, which is pretty cool.
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80s is hazy as all shit... I have watched a few movies and OVAs from the decade but was a long time ago. I don't really remember having the impression that there was giant robots stapled everywhere for the hell of it though. In Patlabor it seemed pretty relevant and random crap like Doom Megalopolis had big monsters, but don't remember robots. Mind sharing some recommendations to get a birds eye view of what you mean?
Also, Eureka 7 and Code Geass seem miles away from the hyper violence of the 80s, if they were a revival of sorts, they failed miserably in that front. Though that goes into the tangent of how everything is too clean and pristine in anime in general for a very long time now.
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Not really; Patlabor was mostly a standard cop drama show your grandma would watch on primetime with robots shoehorned in.
There was so much mecha anime in the 80s because they mandated the inclusion of robots to bolster toy sales. They worked the robots in well, but most of the time they wanted to make an unrelated show but used robots to tell that story. The original Gundam is an example of this, as are Acrobunch (Indiana Jones adventure show that needed to use robots to get made), the J9 trilogy (adaptations of classic literature that used robots to get made), Dougram (classic war novel that used robots to get made), and Xabungle (Western that used robots to get made). As soon as mandates from robot toy sponsors disappeared thanks to Evangelion and moe anime, mecha anime took a back seat, and with the people of Japan getting tired of robots, they make a few mecha shows to appeal to the now cult fanbase, but they sideline the mecha a lot to appeal to normies who don't like mecha (which is what Eureka 7 and Code Geass did).
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Apologies for the heckin' double post, but I just watched a couple of cool OVAs I'd like to tell you all about. The first is Aoi Umi no Tristia, an OVA based on a visual novel about a Nanoha expy (literally named Nanoka) fighting in a robot tournament that turns deadly. The first episode is lacklustre, but the second episode loops around to totally awesome as the fight leaves the ring, and this fight has EVERYTHING -- missile circuses, a house that opens up to launch support gear, a combination, and sentient robots! The main robot even looks like a Roman soldier (sort of like Tallgeese), and the good robot is called Tenzan, and the enemy robot is called Huckebein, so whoever made this clearly was an SRW fan! And, as a final reference, here's how the battle ends:
The other OVA is Bounty Dog, which is basically Bubblegum Crisis set in Von Braun City with some old aliens in the centre of the moon watching over humanity (so Dancouga Nova without cool robot combinations) and Gai Shishioh as a black-haired mercenary. The city is quite neat -- it's got museums with "old" satellites, domes, big road bridges, motorcycles with arms, moon trucks, and a control centre! I really liked how this took place entirely on the moon without ever visiting Earth (and you could tell it was on the moon throughout), and the story was neat, so I appreciated that. I'll probably watch Big Wars next when I'm in the mood for something like this.
The other OVA is Bounty Dog, which is basically Bubblegum Crisis set in Von Braun City with some old aliens in the centre of the moon watching over humanity (so Dancouga Nova without cool robot combinations) and Gai Shishioh as a black-haired mercenary. The city is quite neat -- it's got museums with "old" satellites, domes, big road bridges, motorcycles with arms, moon trucks, and a control centre! I really liked how this took place entirely on the moon without ever visiting Earth (and you could tell it was on the moon throughout), and the story was neat, so I appreciated that. I'll probably watch Big Wars next when I'm in the mood for something like this.
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After reading Kengan Asura I picked up mostly manhua, The Boxer, Halym Gym and Fight Class 3 are really kino.
I see the new kengan being posted now and then mostly in /a/ and group chats but im not sure I can invest into it like I did back then...
I did not expect THIS level of kino
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Really shows that I know dick about the topic. Kind of feel silly for not considering Japan having it's own "ok, but can we make an action figure out of it?" Phase as well.
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>Kengan Omega
It's literally a comedy and you cannot convince me that this entire convoluted grudge Koga has against monke for bumping into him a bit too hard FOUR YEARS ago and going so far as to get trained by literally every top tier fighter in this story including the fucking villain of the manga(yes Shen is a villain no matter how much they try to pretend otherwise), track Yumi down after h
e has been maimed, disgraced, living in some garbage infested dump and apparently has to resort to yakuza hits in order to put food on the table, cripple the fuck out of him(even though apparently the yakuza have put out a hit on him) and then leave while dropping some thigh slapping LE STOIC FIGHTER™ advice isn't a masterstroke of comedic genius.
It's literally a comedy and you cannot convince me that this entire convoluted grudge Koga has against monke for bumping into him a bit too hard FOUR YEARS ago and going so far as to get trained by literally every top tier fighter in this story including the fucking villain of the manga(yes Shen is a villain no matter how much they try to pretend otherwise), track Yumi down after h
e has been maimed, disgraced, living in some garbage infested dump and apparently has to resort to yakuza hits in order to put food on the table, cripple the fuck out of him(even though apparently the yakuza have put out a hit on him) and then leave while dropping some thigh slapping LE STOIC FIGHTER™ advice isn't a masterstroke of comedic genius.
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My favorite part is the freestyle rapping scene that's in one of the episodes.
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Unless I'm misremembering, Netflix actually never bothered to put in an English version of the freestyle rap for the dub, did they?
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