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[Xarpho's Return]

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I was thinking something more unhinged like "agent of Big Oil dressed in blackface".

 

[LaxerBRO]

In less time that it's taken California to lay down a single mile of high speed rail, entire countries like China have gone from 0 to thousands of them. I genuinely believe Americans have lost the ability to make the level of infrastructure they did like when they mass manufactured the interstate system around ~50-75 years ago, which is why such projects end up going nowhere.

That's because the rail lines were built as the cities developed instead of trying to put them in after urban development.

Bulldozing a mile of farmer Chen's rice patty is easier that bulldozing a mile tract of suburban housing across different counties and cities.

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In such a pod city, your house, work, school, and life is basically all pods, including your means of travel.

How is this different in Europe? Aren't European cities apartments smaller?

It's easy to shit on something, but presenting a viable alternative is more challenging.

Btw...open concept offices suck. I have a private office now but I had to deal with both open concept offices and cubicles.

Give me my cubicle any day.

 

[An Sionnach Seang]

Trains are great (unless overcrowded) till something goes wrong, a shot list of my experiences:

• Jumper shutting down all the trains on the line till the body can be removed
• Late train making all others using the line also late
• Late train making you miss your connection
• Train fault making you stuck halfway between stations till they can get another engine to you
• Electrified wires going kaput leaving you stranded in Brum, worse was their poor communication with not saying trains are FUBAR please find another way home. wasted 5 fucking hours... found a nice pub tho
• Cancelled services
• Fire at a plant near the railway shutting down all trains on the line after I got to London

and I don't even travel by train that much.

I've got another one: a broken down freight train completely blocking the branch line that leads to your station for at least several hours, possibly overnight, so your train (and several more behind it that have also got stuck) has to terminate at the very busy nearby main-line station that it's not scheduled to call at
then when the the hastily arranged rail replacement bus arrives, it doesn't call at your town, so in the end you have to get a taxi
that was a fun Friday evening for sure

 

[LaxerBRO]

I always assume that video game cities (including SimCity) are just abstractions of what they'd like in real life. Like in Pokémon Gold and Silver, Goldenrod City consists of a rail station, a radio station, a department store/underground concourse, and a few other buildings, plus a variety of 2x2 tile buildings you can't enter. However, it's taken to mean that it's a big, bustling city with all the transportation, services, logistics, and residential to make it work. GTA V's entire map is about 30 square miles, but the City of Los Angeles (not counting the Pacific Ocean, the other cities in the greater LA area, or state parks/natural areas, all of which GTA V is supposed to represent) is about 500 square miles.

Only an autist would find a 1:1 game actually fun, but at least could work in theory. You can't have a scaled-down, abstracted city in real life. It just doesn't work, period.

A true 1:1 game would be impossible to design as it would need to rely on central planning.

 

[ᚠᚢᚦᚩᚱᚳ]

Have you ever heard them complain about "Complete Streets" laws that mandate bike lanes on new/repaired roads?

To be fair, using those painted bike lanes that zigzag between 40 mph state highway lanes is insane. Anyway, Reddit has decided to purity test mopeds [a], which are a common mode of transportation in their ideal city. Gas is deemed as being for chuds, and electric mopeds (scooters) are declared the preferred urban diddly bopper because "everyone rides electric mopeds in Asia."



Reddit agrees, and being unable to handle the brap, decries traditional mopeds (Puch Maxi) as nothing more than "leaf blowers on wheels." Reddit takes the discussion in a direction leading to the universal condemnation of internal combustion engines.



Asian Reddit chimes in to say that everywhere he's lived, people use gas mopeds and he doesn't even remember the last time he saw an electric one. He thinks OP is confused about scooters and those urban novelty vehicles such as electric skateboards and children's scooters.



Gearhead Reddit attempts to justify the use of gas mopeds and tells wild stories about mopeds catching fire while riding them 40 years ago.



If you really think about it, the urbanists are essentially building a collective CWCville, but the theme is efficient transportation and affordable housing not cartoon characters worshiping a retard.

 

[dj0449674]

When was the last time someone sold a new two stroke moped in the US? The most common was the Honda Ruckus 49cc because most states allowed them without plates or a license.

The Chinese knock off were basically clones of the Honda engine with less power and louder because the Chinese match Hondas tolerances.

 

[Torque Wheeler]

When was the last time someone sold a new two stroke moped in the US? The most common was the Honda Ruckus 49cc because most states allowed them without plates or a license.

The Chinese knock off were basically clones of the Honda engine with less power and louder because the Chinese match Hondas tolerances.

They make the SSR Lazer still, from China of course. In most states a moped must have under 50ccs of displacement and have pedals. Popular vintage models include Tomos, Puch, Moby, Vespa. Sometimes this regulation includes a speed restriction of 30, 25, or 20 mph. These are typically 2 stoke, barring a few models like the SSR laser. Late model mopeds, like the Tomos A55 that was made until the 2010s had to comply with strict emissions, hampering performance slightly. A scooter does not have pedals, and is incredibly gay. In many states you need a motorcycle license and insurance, so now you look like a giant dweeb and you had to get a motorcycle license and insurance and registration lmao. These can be anywhere from 50cc to 200cc, but are typically 125cc. Honda, Yamaha, and a bunch of Chinese manufacturers make these in 4 or 2 stroke variations.

Mopeds and scooters can easily achieve 90+ mpg, depending on configuration and how fat you are.

Electric bikes and mopeds require a place to keep a battery warm in the winter, and the ability to bring the whole machine inside if you can't remove the battery. Mining lithium and cobalt causes irreparable damage to the planet. Children are used to mine these minerals sometimes.

An old 2 stroke moped is efficient, does not require raping the planet anymore than it already is, and will run tens of thousands of miles with very little maintenance.

 

[DavidS877]

Electric bikes and mopeds require a place to keep a battery warm in the winter, and the ability to bring the whole machine inside if you can't remove the battery.

In many places you have to bring the whole thing inside or it's going to get stolen. Oddly, these are usually the urban places where they're most useful.

 

[Torque Wheeler]

In many places you have to bring the whole thing inside or it's going to get stolen. Oddly, these are usually the urban places where they're most useful.

From owning two wheeled transportation of all levels in several major cities, the best thing to do is to just make yours less attractive to steal that the next bike on the street. Big beefy chains, taking off a wheel, installing a kill switch.

Of course, my favorite is just owning a house that isn't in a shithole

 

[Jotch]

These people need to be forced to live without use of electricity for a year.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

Jason doesn't use Bluesky:
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Why is that guy friends with to quote Jason "an abrasive jackass"?

 

[Yamamura]

Mining lithium and cobalt causes irreparable damage to the planet

Oh don't worry the urbanists are getting there. They're just waiting until they get rid of your internal combustion engines and then they'll bring up all that about electric vehicles to get rid of them too.

Remember one of them said the quiet part loud before, they want to get rid of all autonomy of travel until you are dependent on someone else's service to get around.

 

[FILTH Tourist]

I stumbled across an interesting crossover. Danny Gonzalez (a guy who mainly does apolitical comedy videos, but is friends with Kurtis Conner) did a crossover with Climate Towns about Amazon boxes and shipping practices.

Is this the start of Danny's breadtube arc?

 

[TowinKarz]

NGL, I am genuinely pissed that Buc-ee's discontinued my favorite sandwich but I always enjoy the seething it causes bugmen.

"This Sandwich Kills Fascists"

So, random question that I've never seen at any point addressed by Urbanists (or maybe they've addressed it, but I never browsed their subreddits long enough to find their explanation):

What do these bicycle-autists expect people to do, who live in remote locations where it's unfeasible to bike everywhere /cars are pretty much required?

You do the Right Thing (tm) and move to a city. Its YOUR job to live up to THEIR standards, it's not THEIR job to educate YOU on how to do it best. Just do it or you're a fucking carbrain.

Though, as technology "improves" they're probably going to just advocate for eBikes. They already think that if you have a family? You can get them around on a "cargo bike" .

"everyone rides electric mopeds in Asia."

God I hate that "argument" - Hey, do it this way because people in another part of the world in totally different circumstances do it like that and don't die from it!

"In Asia they.."

*Batman Slap*

This isn't Asia!

 

[ᚠᚢᚦᚩᚱᚳ]

When was the last time someone sold a new two stroke moped in the US?

As far as I know, Tomos is the only company that sold new mopeds past the '80s, which means almost every gas moped in use is 40+ years old. A quick online search suggests that you can expect about 5 years from an electric scooter if you keep it in good repair.

An old 2 stroke moped is efficient, does not require raping the planet anymore than it already is, and will run tens of thousands of miles with very little maintenance.

This guy's read Fred's Guide. I'd go further and say that moped owners save tons of shit from landfills. If you have a spare engine with half the parts missing, you don't just trash it because one day you'll need some essential and very specific item that hasn't been manufactured for half a century.

In my experience, Reddit's entire issue with gas mopeds is stillborn. Urban Americans aren't fiddling with carburetors and sourcing new old stock rear light housings, they're dropping a few hundred on cheap Chinese ghetto buzzers that'll last a few winters.

 

[Torque Wheeler]

This guy's read Fred's Guide

Hell yeah if only everyone else did too

I'd go further and say that moped owners save tons of shit from landfills. If you have a spare engine with half the parts missing, you don't just trash it because one day you'll need some essential and very specific item that hasn't been manufactured for half a century.

In my experience, Reddit's entire issue with gas mopeds is stillborn. Urban Americans aren't fiddling with carburetors and sourcing new old stock rear light housings, they're dropping a few hundred on cheap Chinese ghetto buzzers that'll last a few winters.

Mopeds are very retarded vehicles but the owners are a thrifty bunch. They're a bad target for this ecological virtue signalling. Offsetting the carbon saved with manufacturing anything new takes years sometimes decades compared to keeping an older version on the road. The damage has already been done. Cash For Clunkers and it's consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

Fuck inspections and fuck EPA regulations on citizens. It's a tax on the poorest of people really

 

[Xarpho's Return]

God I hate that "argument" - Hey, do it this way because people in another part of the world in totally different circumstances do it like that and don't die from it!

If there's one thing the late Liveleak has taught me, China puts very little value on human life, and as such, mopeds zipping around aren't the best example when you virtue-signal about pedestrian/motor collisions.

Besides, mopeds are for poors, in poorer/third-world countries, they trade up to cars if they can afford it, bicycles and mopeds are for people who can't afford it.

 

[Jotch]

I cannot hold ill feelings against Moped riders despite the noise.
They always drive respectfully, often some of the most courteous on the road (maybe they feel vulnerable?).
I also know that there exist no pro-moped movement and the only people riding them do so out of poverty.

 

[Torque Wheeler]

I cannot hold ill feelings against Moped riders despite the noise.
They always drive respectfully, often some of the most courteous on the road (maybe they feel vulnerable?).
I also know that there exist no pro-moped movement and the only people riding them do so out of poverty.

I ride a moped because I am autistic

 

[dj0449674]

As far as I know, Tomos is the only company that sold new mopeds past the '80s, which means almost every gas moped in use is 40+ years old. A quick online search suggests that you can expect about 5 years from an electric scooter if you keep it in good repair.


This guy's read Fred's Guide. I'd go further and say that moped owners save tons of shit from landfills. If you have a spare engine with half the parts missing, you don't just trash it because one day you'll need some essential and very specific item that hasn't been manufactured for half a century.

In my experience, Reddit's entire issue with gas mopeds is stillborn. Urban Americans aren't fiddling with carburetors and sourcing new old stock rear light housings, they're dropping a few hundred on cheap Chinese ghetto buzzers that'll last a few winters.

I use the term moped and scooter interchangeably so that makes sense

The 49cc Honda Ruckus knock offs were hugely popular around here until a few years back when my state required licenses foe them