Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

[Project Blue]

I've been reading this thread for around a year now, registered just now to post. A fire has been boiling in my stomach and my mouth has been clamped shut. I'm about to burst. I used to be a degenerate socdem breadtube-loving trans-inclusionary libtard. This experience has altered my life.

My brother has been living as a "girl" for years now and my family marches along with it.

My brother has been failed by everyone around him. I didn't realize he was being groomed until it was too late, and in many ways I even encouraged it. My family supports him to his face, but behind his back they all admit the obvious; He WNBAW. His transition into a "girl" awoke me to this fucking madness we find ourselves in. There's nothing falacious about the slippery slope. Biology is immutible. The family is sacred. Weimar is now.

COVID starts. My brother begins to spend a lot of time on Discord- I assumed it was just Among Us and Minecraft. Then he comes out as non-binary. I give the canned response I was programmed to: "That's okay Brother, as long as you're Happy!!! :-)" ... but... maybe he's just lost without IRL friends, so I introduced him to my best friend. Get him out of his room, we can all hang out together.

Big mistake. My friend is a pooner.

Spoiler: Pooner backstory

I will live with the regret of keeping her around for a long time. I only remained friends with her out of immense pity and twisted sense of loyalty. I tried in vain to help her from her psychosis (not even the trans shit, just everyday life struggles). I met her very young, when she was still happy and bubbly. For a long time she was a genuinely good friend, then she transitioned into a selfish, spiteful "man". Her misery would often drag me down but I told myself that's what good friends do. I stuck by her side hoping for a return to the 'good ol' days'. It never came and never will. Testosterone ruined her life.

Within a couple months, my brother comes out as a girl to my family behind my back: "Blank is my deadname!" When I learn from another family member, I completely dissassociate.

What?! Even to libtard me this was a shock, not MY brother?? I know him. I began researching. ALL GOOGLE RESOURCES TELL YOU TO SWALLOW THE PILL and "Accept your New Beautiful Sister! :-)" and "Be glad SHE felt comfortable enough to tell you about her TRUE SELF". My favorite from a co-worker: "You're really transphobic for questioning her true identity :-( Sad how many disgusting people there are still around". I was dealing with a feeling equivilant to grief and all the resources and gay fucking therapists and experts say "It's such a BEAUTIFUL THING :-)!! Medically transition now!! Sterlize yourself!!"

I find out my pooner best friend suggested estrogen to him behind my back. Cut her off like she cut off her tits.

My final step towards peaking was Giggly Goonclown and the egg-cracking theory: "They don't reproduce by having children, they reproduce by grooming other peoples children into their beliefs for sexual/power gratification". Everything clicked: all the Discord freaks I had encountered, the older gay teachers in school, the trannies who yearn for "days of lost girlhood" and obsess over childish media... and now my pooner friend:

THEY'RE FUCKING PEDOPHILE GROOMERS

This realization hit me like a 2-ton SUV. They got him. At that point, there was little I could do. I was living away from home, I reached out to him and planned outdoor things for us to do. I tried, and tried, and tried, and tried, to be let into his world and try to pull my brother from the muck and mire of a destructive death cult. At the same time, reevaluating my life, my friends, and all my core beliefs. But, with my parents supporting him through gritted teeth, I had limited power. I was dismissed and constantly shoved away. I wasn't strong enough to save my brother. If I had prepared, if I had noticed, if I had been a better masculine influence earlier, this could have been prevented. When you lose family to death, you're allowed to greive. When you lose family to the regime, you must fall in line with the regime.

Now he lives far away in another city in a puppy-play polycule with troons almost a decade older than him. Just now, I discovered that he still talks to that pooner. I can't even get a text back.

It's over.

My brother is dead. He's made the choice to kill himself in slow motion and all I can do is watch, knowing the part I played.

Spoiler: More sperging

There are so many details I can't devulge further fearing my PL. All of this is so obvious in hindsight and writing this is humiliating, but I had to say it somewhere. Thank you Kiwifarms for being a void to scream into. I hope everyone in this thread understands that you can't be friends with or date troons. They are like little Frankenstein's Monsters ready to breach captivity. They WILL come for everything and anyone you love. They RELISH that fact and find sick pleasure having power over your lives. I promise you, all those currently stuck in relationships with a troon: THEY KNOW THEY'RE HURTING YOU, PART OF THEM LIKES IT. A chaotic spirit animates them that exists to pervert all that is good. Nothing is off limits. The boundaries draw their attention.

 

[Zemblan Physics]

Please someone tell me to just pull the fucking plug and she's a lost cause.

I’m not usually a categorical person but: just pull the fucking plug already and she’s a lost cause. Maybe losing your support will snap her out of the obviously personality disordered hell she’s created for herself ().

In any case, you can’t make the needed changes for her and you seem like a very nice person who deserve better than being drained by this emotional vampire.

 

[GlupShitto]

I hate to say it, but your brother's too far gone and needs to be put down like a dog. It's up to you now. You're the only one who can end this madness.

 

[Paper Machete]

Nothing is off limits. The boundaries draw their attention.

Yes, very well put. All of this deviance is about transgression. It's about crossing boundaries: other people's, (decent) society's, and even of themselves.

So sorry you had to go through all of that. It's sadly a common story with a lot of the younger ones. May I ask, how old is he? Based off the way this is told I'd assume middle to high school aged.

 

[Project Blue]

I hate to say it, but your brother's too far gone and needs to be put down like a dog. It's up to you now. You're the only one who can end this madness.

No, I still love him. Those feelings are only directed at those who caused this.

"If anyone causes one of these little ones to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea." - Matthew 18:6

 

[Project Blue]

Yes, very well put. All of this deviance is about transgression. It's about crossing boundaries: other people's, (decent) society's, and even of themselves.

So sorry you had to go through all of that. It's sadly a common story with a lot of the younger ones. May I ask, how old is he? Based off the way this is told I'd assume middle to high school aged

Thank you. It truly is form of self-harm or suicide- like cosmic protest against themselves and their bodies.

While this was happening he was an impressionable late teenager like most of them. He's an adult now so it's beyond really anyones control. He must find it within himself to change.

 

[Fire Flight]

I looked at my old discord account and this one nigga I played DND with has she/her in his bio. I only spoke with him for a brief period, but it feels like I found out about someones death.

 

[Redoniblueoni]

Thank you. It truly is form of self-harm or suicide- like cosmic protest against themselves and their bodies.

While this was happening he was an impressionable late teenager like most of them. He's an adult now so it's beyond really anyones control. He must find it within himself to change.

There is some hope I believe. I think most troons take several years to realize their own faults and become more reasonable, and some of these end up de transitioning partially or fully. It can take a long time though, sometimes a decade or more. Stand strong and if you have to be the only one who uses his real pronouns, do it. More will follow.

To update and relate a little: my own brother is now using "she/her and they/them". On his social media (from my spying on occasion from a distance) he is also seen wearing more male clothing, like a suit/ bow tie, no wig and some embarassing makeup. He also took "girl" out of his username. He still lives in NYC and is living it up in hedonism. Family tells me he looks sickly thin and "like shit". It's now been about 6 years since I heard the news. In 4, maybe he will be done with it all. I hope.

My family has gotten perhaps more delusional. The story of when my brother grabbed my shirt with a pulled fist has changed from I deserved it, to something almost happened, to nothing happened at all, and now much more recently to I started it and touched him first, so I deserved it but also he didn't do anything. Their story gets more ridiculous with every telling, while mine has stayed the same in 4 years. It's the lieing that bothers me the most.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

No, I still love him. Those feelings are only directed at those who caused this.

Your brother is most likely now grooming others and doing god knows how much degenerate shit. The person you loved is gone.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

: THEY KNOW THEY'RE HURTING YOU, PART OF THEM LIKES IT. A chaotic spirit animates them that exists to pervert all that is good.

That's called demonic possession.

Sure I know a lot of us here come from hard scientistic, materialistic backgrounds. Most people raised in the 20th into 21st century have that POV by default, even those raised nominally as part of some kind of faith group. I was definitely of that view myself up until what I was seeing and experiencing in life could no longer be denied.

It's a terrifying reality to face, on the one hand. But on the other hand it means that there is real hope. Don't lose sight of that hope. Alas for those facing a barrier of pride or ideology- you will have to correctly identify the name and nature of that hope in order to grab onto it for dear life and let it sustain you.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

I just realized that tranny polycules are nothing but cult gatherings. Trans cult members living together or being very close and doing ghoulish tranny shit. They pretend that they are all in a romantic relationship but it's just what perverted cults do. That's why it's always several people.

Now he lives far away in another city in a puppy-play polycule

He is in a cult living together with other cult members. It won't be easy for him to get out, even if he one day changes his mind. Doubt is forbidden and questioning the trans dogma is seen as transphobic. Your parents also got fooled by the trans cult into believing their ugly ideology. I'd say you have a better chance making them realize that a cult got their son than convincing your brother to get out of the trans cult. To do this, you should learn about how cults work.

 

[⋖ cørdion ⋗]

I just realized that tranny polycules are nothing but cult gatherings. Trans cult members living together or being very close and doing ghoulish tranny shit. They pretend that they are all in a romantic relationship but it's just what perverted cults do. That's why it's always several people.

Mentally ill men remove themselves from the gene pool. Net profit. We should all be happy. It's the unlucky few of us who want more for society that keep dooming about it.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Mentally ill men remove themselves from the gene pool. Net profit. We should all be happy. It's the unlucky few of us who want more for society that keep dooming about it.

I'm all for the worst troons cutting their dick & balls into bloody pieces but there are also many vulerable people who are falling for this shit. People who need therapy instead of sterilization and mutilation but currently the trans cult is still too strong. Right now there is no hope for most who fall into it's trap. The cult's power is declining but sadly way to slowly which means many more people will become its victims.

 

[Misogenes]

I think we're going to finally cut off the family troon. My husband was agonizing over what to do about him, since I'm married to a wonderful, compassionate man who hasn't reached my level of TTD yet. I suggested keeping a line open to him, in case it was mostly cult indoctrination that got the troon.

(As an aside, everyone should learn about cults and how they operate. It's always useful to know, same for narc and other cluster B traits and how to deal with those, et cetera.)

No, seems like the family troon's just a giant POS. We knew for a while that he had a history of being violent to his younger siblings, and since we've known him he has an established pattern of not valuing other people's time, leeching money off his underpaid mother for rent money, doing all the worst, most stereotypical libshit personal attacks/narc injury freakouts...

So the tranny brain worms might have made him worse, but he was a bad egg to start with. Even his own siblings do their best to avoid him and never invite him for social events. My husband was the one who made the effort to have the troon included, but after recent events has decided that it's been a wasted effort. He feels bad for putting the siblings through all that, but is now pretty sure that no longer extending his hand is the right thing to do.

We'll probably still see the troon around for holidays when the entire extended family gets together (at least until he gets mad over politics or whatever and uninvites himself) but he'll get no more offers to hang out for dinners or miniature golf or other stuff. At this point it's not even because he's a trans, but just because he's a miserable waste of space who makes everyone's lives more unpleasant by his mere presence.

So I guess I'm free of the local sideshow. Back to rubbernecking trannies here at the Farms and waiting to see if my sister shows up in the SRS disasters threads with her tits sliced off.

Edit: grammar

 

[Aunt Carol]

He is in a cult living together with other cult members. It won't be easy for him to get out, even if he one day changes his mind. Doubt is forbidden and questioning the trans dogma is seen as transphobic.

And just like a standard cult, this way they can bring mundane pressures to bear, too.

If rental history for the last few years is a verbal agreement with Lilith and Alice, if work history went dark because it turned into e-begging or online troon thottery, that's the same as someone stumbling out of the Moonies with nothing to their name. So much easier to work on quashing doubts with the devil you know, than look at yourself honestly and condemn yourself to a harsh expulsion. There's your Matrix metaphor.

Look at how hard it is to get funds and a landing place together to leave an abusive partner, while you're physically with them and struggling not to fall back in, and also not be detected. Now it's five partners, they all know how computers work, and none of your friends are truly "outside" the relationship because they're all in the same chatrooms and can be assumed to be screenshotting.

I don't believe there's a mastermind behind troonery, pulling the strings. If you get caught in quicksand it doesn't matter that there's no conscious force drowning you; you're still drowning. Moving in with all your "girlfriends" sounds great to the kind of lonely sperg who troons out and finds community; nobody realizes they built their own trap until they try to leave.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

That's called demonic possession.

*JeffreyMarsh.jpg*

 

[A Fly on the wall]

I've lurked on this site for like 2 years and I felt like I need to get this off my chest as it escalated pretty quickly. I'll try and be vague as to not PL but this is a pretty bog standard experience from what I've read on here already.

My best friend through who was always a little odd in my eyes has finally pushed me over the edge. At first it was the little things like him always picking female custom characters in games (not that that makes you a troon) as well as some other shit like being on troon infested discords and being into a lot of troon aligned games like fallout nv or ultrakill. Like many I didn't think about it all that much since I was fairly supportive of troons back when I noticed this a couple of years ago, having never interacted with one.

Anyway a few months later he just comes out and says he's a troon, which obviously me and a lot of my other buddies kinda saw coming, . After this is where it got really strange though. One of my friends who also knew this guy was a semi attractive woman who was into goth fashion. It was pretty obvious he had a thing for her from the start but after he trooned we noticed he started copying her. A lot.

He would dress the same, use the same speech patterns, makeup, the whole nine yards. It really freaked her out and rightfully so. She tried to kind of let him down gently but this annoying pooner she was friends with would always talking her out of it, saying "oh she's just expressing herself".

The thing that pushed me to post this though is I saw him again on social media and it genuinely feels like back in 2020 someone scooped out his brain and put someone else in there because there's literally nothing left of him now. Like he's just fucking gone.

He's surrounded by this gaggle of troons who always give eachother ass pats and he wears these weird ass shirts that say shit like big titty goth gf on the front like that one wojak

While I've been keeping my distance from him though, I have my doubts he's done the same, since I looked further out of morbid curiosity and found out that his troon name is now the same as my girlfriend's.

P.s. I'm very sorry if this post is kind of thrown together, it's my first post on the farms but I felt like this story would fit well here.

 

[You're MDNWU]

They don't reproduce by having children, they reproduce by grooming other peoples children into their beliefs for sexual/power gratification".

I've been hearing this about faggots for at least a decade now and it always made sense to me. Now it's just trannies.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

She tried to kind of let him down gently but this annoying pooner she was friends with would always talking her out of it, saying "oh she's just expressing herself".

That's why you shouldn't be friends with cult members. Ideology comes always first. Never be friends with a tranny. They will stab you in the back and push you to obey the rules of their insane belief system.

 

[Syikeblade]

That's called demonic possession.

Sure I know a lot of us here come from hard scientistic, materialistic backgrounds. Most people raised in the 20th into 21st century have that POV by default, even those raised nominally as part of some kind of faith group. I was definitely of that view myself up until what I was seeing and experiencing in life could no longer be denied.

It's a terrifying reality to face, on the one hand. But on the other hand it means that there is real hope. Don't lose sight of that hope. Alas for those facing a barrier of pride or ideology- you will have to correctly identify the name and nature of that hope in order to grab onto it for dear life and let it sustain you.

This is coming from someone who is an Christian (Not Catholic that's different) and believes in the Bible.

Transgenderism, queer theory, marxism and more, are all branches of communism which is a demonic religion based on Gnosticism which is another demonic religion. All Satan really needs is for people to not be an Christian and you'll follow him no matter your beliefs.

Now in the case of transgenderism at least what I could understand it's a belief that they're imprisoned their bodies imposed on them by society. They truly believe they can destroy society and then create a new reality and make a paradise.

So following in queer theory they need to push and destroy boundaries until there are none left and they can become their own god and do whatever they want.