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Microsoft Recall screenshots credit cards and Social Security numbers, even with the "sensitive information" filter enabled
Despite promising to filter personal data out, Recall still captures it.
By Avram Piltch, last updated 3 hours ago


Microsoft’s Recall feature recently made its way back to Windows Insiders after having been pulled from test builds back in June, due to security and privacy concerns. The new version of Recall encrypts the screens it captures and, by default, it has a “Filter sensitive information,” setting enabled, which is supposed to prevent it from recording any app or website that is showing credit card numbers, social security numbers, or other important financial / personal info. In my tests, however, this filter only worked in some situations (on two e-commerce sites), leaving a gaping hole in the protection it promises.

When I entered a credit card number and a random username / password into a Windows Notepad window, Recall captured it, despite the fact that I had text such as “Capital One Visa” right next to the numbers. Similarly, when I filled out a loan application PDF in Microsoft Edge, entering a social security number, name and DOB, Recall captured that. Note that all info in these screenshots is made up, but I also tested with an actual credit card number of mine and the results were the same.

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I also created my own HTML page with a web form that said, explicitly, “enter your credit card number below.” The form had fields for Credit card type, number, CVC and expiration date. I thought this might trigger Recall to block it, but the software captured an image of my form filled out, complete with the credit card data.

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On the bright side, Recall refused to capture the credit card fields when I went to the payment pages of two online stores – Pimoroni and Adafruit. In both cases, it only captured either the screens before and after the credit card entry form or a blank form.

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So, when it came to real-world commerce sites that I visited, Recall got it right. However, what my experiment proves is that it’s pretty much impossible for Microsoft’s AI filter to identify every situation where sensitive information is on screen and avoid capturing it. My examples were designed to test the filter, but they’re not fringe cases. Real people do put sensitive personal information into PDF forms. They write things down or copy and paste them into text files and then key them into websites that don’t look like typical shopping sites.

I asked Microsoft for a comment and the company responded by pointing me to part of its blog post on the Preview Recall, which states:

“We’ve updated Recall to detect sensitive information like credit card details, passwords, and personal identification numbers. When detected, Recall won’t save or store those snapshots. We’ll continue to improve this functionality, and if you find sensitive information that should be filtered out, for your context, language, or geography, please let us know through Feedback Hub. We’ve also provided an option in Settings that we encourage you to enable that will anonymously share the apps and sites you prefer to be excluded from Recall to help us improve the product.”

So the company is promising that Recall will get better at filtering out sensitive information over time. But how much better it will get and how many holes will still remain is an open question.

How Recall Works

Recall’s purpose is to provide searchable memory of all your computer activity, to become your one-stop digital memory. So the feature, which is only available on Copilot+ PCs, takes screenshots of everything you do on your PC, arranges those pictures in a timeline, and makes them searchable using natural language search. If you forgot what website you were visiting when you were considering buying a red sofa, you can search “sofa” and it should pull up a picture of the exact page you were on. Because it’s AI-powered, it also reads the text within images and lets you copy it.

The concern with Recall is that it’s keeping a digital record of everything you do and, no matter how secure, the record is there for bad actors to find. When Recall first appeared in Insider Builds last spring, researchers noticed that it wasn’t encrypting the screenshots it captured and was storing its database as plain text. The company responded to the negative press attention by pulling Recall from Insider builds and promising to bring it back only after some security upgrades.

The new version of Recall is now opt-in rather than opt-out – I got prompted to enable Recall immediately after installing the Insider Build. The pop-up prompt appeared as soon as my laptop rebooted after the updated.

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Recall has a “sensitive information filter,” which is enabled by default and it appears to actually be encrypting the data it captures. It also requires you to use a Windows Hello login every time you open the timeline-like Recall app.

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While I couldn’t immediately tell how good the encryption was, I did try and fail to open both the database file and what appeared to be the screenshot files. The database file appears to be called ukg.db (this is what it was called in the spring Recall release) and it’s located in the C:\users\[your username]\AppData\Local\CoreAIPlatform.00\UKP\{some number} folder. In the spring, when it was unencrypted, researchers were able to open this file and read the data inside, using an app called DB Browser (SQLite). However, now I couldn’t open it.

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The screenshots appear to be files in a subfolder called AsymStore. I couldn’t open those either and I tried to open them as PNGs, BMPs or JPGs. Perhaps hackers will figure out how to open these files, but as far as I could tell, a typical user can’t open them outside of the Recall app.

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The only way I could view Recall screenshots was by using the Recall app to either search my timeline or browse it. Every time I opened the Recall app, I was asked to use a Windows Hello facial login. And the first time I opened the app, it insisted that I set up a Windows Hello biometric login using either my face or fingerprint. However, Windows Hello also allowed me to log in with a 4-digit PIN.

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So, if a bad actor has access to your computer and knows your PIN, they could view Recall bypassing the biometric security checks. They don’t even need physical access to the PC. I was able to access the Recall app and view the timeline on a remote computer by using TeamViewer, a popular remote access application.

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You could argue that chances are someone won’t be remotely accessing your desktop without your permission. You could also take solace in the fact that Recall seems to filter out shopping pages from its captures (at least in the instances that I tested). But all you need is the right confluence of events and your personal data, anything from your Social Security number to the username and password you use for your email, could be available to a hacker.
 
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They are pushing this again but still haven't fixed it?! LOL MS LOL

So they finally find something that they are willing to stick with for more than a few seconds and it is utterly broke, not very well thought out and generally a bad idea.. OC
 
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This entire thing is solution looking for a problem. Trying to remember what you were looking up last? Just search through your browsing history. Problem solved! What a waste of R&D money.
Someone mentioned this type of thing has a name, but I forget what it is. Its when someone creates a bullshit nonsense thing to justify doing something, rather than fix a real problem or admit they have no real value to add to the company.

As long as it can be disabled I don't care, its yet another shitty feature, which to be fair their are a few now. Why cant they just make a stripped down version of windows for people who just want the basics.
 
The solution to the problem is this: https://linuxmint.com

I don't need any thank yous!
Or Solus. Or Manjaro. Or Lite, MX, or Bodhi for people with potatoes. Or can't run windows 11 because of TPM 2.0 and using a non Ryzen AMD cpu or under 8th gen intel cpu.

If all you do is browser the web, watch some youtube, and/or play vidya, Linux is a no brainer. For anyone who's privacy conscious, wants to give M$ the finger, or sick of data collection.

Windows is really only for business users at this point. And for creative types, they're probably already using MacOS. The latter is still a better option for privacy than windows. But you're still giving some of your data over to a big corp. And their all-in-one designs now of days will create tons of e-waste in the future.
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Super old meme. But even more relevant today. Since at least Macbooks 10+ years ago were more repairable.
 
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This entire thing is solution looking for a problem. Trying to remember what you were looking up last? Just search through your browsing history. Problem solved! What a waste of R&D money.
You think GoyOS 11 constantly screenshotting your display has anything at all to do with helping you remember things? The niggercattle truly are retarded.
 
Or Solus. Or Manjaro. Or Lite, MX, or Bodhi for people with potatoes.
This shit is why nobody uses Linux. Mint is perfectly fine (though still not good enough); It's never just one good distro that's an easy off-ramp from Windows, it's a bunch of hodge-podge bullshit that nobody actually wants.

W11 is shit and W10 is fast approaching EOL. If Linux really wants to compete with Windows it needs something that looks, feels, and is as brainless as Windows, not infinity+1 different distros. Android "just works", Chromebooks "just work". Steamdeck "just works". It's why normies have adopted them just fine.

Why this is so hard for Linux as a community to grasp for desktop boggles the mind.

On the road, how many drivers are gearheads and how many just want to get from point A to point B? Windows VS. Linux right now is less like Chevy VS. Ford, and more like picking a car VS. a motorcycle. I couldn't care less if it's a Harley or a Yamaha, the experience is still too completely different from driving a car.

I'm really hoping for something, because otherwise the future of desktop for the mainstream is pretty grim.
 
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As long as it can be disabled I don't care, its yet another shitty feature,
It will be randomly re-enabled when the next update is forced on you.

Why cant they just make a stripped down version of windows for people who just want the basics.
Because, as trite as this is, it is true: You are the product.

Anyone who "upgrades" to windows 11 is 100% certified niggercattle. Report to your nearest government office or amazon warehouse for branding.
 
This shit is why nobody uses Linux. Mint is perfectly fine (though still not good enough); It's never just one good distro that's an easy off-ramp from Windows, it's a bunch of hodge-podge bullshit that nobody actually wants.

W11 is shit and W10 is fast approaching EOL. If Linux really wants to compete with Windows it needs something that looks, feels, and is as brainless as Windows, not infinity+1 different distros. Android "just works", Chromebooks "just work". Steamdeck "just works". It's why normies have adopted them just fine.

Why this is so hard for Linux as a community to grasp for desktop boggles the mind.

On the road, how many drivers are gearheads and how many just want to get from point A to point B? Windows VS. Linux right now is less like Chevy VS. Ford, and more like picking a car VS. a motorcycle. I couldn't care less if it's a Harley or a Yamaha, the experience is still too completely different from driving a car.

I'm really hoping for something, because otherwise the future of desktop for the mainstream is pretty grim.
Then just use mint or ubuntu.

Or just use Debian. Both mint and ubuntu, along with a lot of popular distros, are based off Debian. Just select KDE if you like the SteamOS desktop mode. Or XFCE if you want something Windows like. Its lightweight and runs well. I use it.

If you want to just browser the internet and watch youtube, use ChromiumOS. Its pretty goo-goo gaga.
 
Linux really wants to compete with Windows it needs something that looks, feels, and is as brainless as Windows, not infinity+1 different distros
"Linux" isn't some entity that pumps out distros to compete with Windows.

Autistic tech nerds who have a certain opinion about what software to taco-wrap around the Linux kernel create a distribution and share it. Some of them become popular and some of them don't. There's no central controlling entity that's going to make an ultimate niggercattle version that gets forcefully shoved down your throat while "it just works, I love it" is tattooed on your forehead.
 
"Linux" isn't some entity that pumps out distros to compete with Windows.

Autistic tech nerds who have a certain opinion about what software to taco-wrap around the Linux kernel create a distribution and share it. Some of them become popular and some of them don't. There's no central controlling entity that's going to make an ultimate niggercattle version that gets forcefully shoved down your throat while "it just works, I love it" is tattooed on your forehead.

It's basically a toy for smug nerds. This isn't exactly news.. it's also why it's never more than a after- never was-thought in terms of adoption and support.
 
It's basically a toy for smug nerds. This isn't exactly news.. it's also why it's never more than a after- never was-thought in terms of adoption and support.
Linux is a toy for autistic nerds and GNU is a toy for smug nerds, and never the two shall m-- oh, too late.

Well, at least now I can put an OS on my 3000 virtual machines without paying for licenses.
 
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