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I can confirm this from a younger coworker of mine who told me about this shit and he straight up has told me women around his age are only willing to give their snapchat or instagram, and if you don't have those you are a weirdo.
Snapchat's even weirder to me. The only time I ever hear of Snapchat these days is from sex workers and OnlyFans girls who are trying to attract an "older crowd". Nobody uses Snapchat anymore. It's a dead app. Do young people actually use Snapchat? I thought Instagram won the social media wars and was the new default for everything. It's been unironically a few years since I've even heard of Snapchat outside of an alternate platform OF girls sometimes advertise on.

I honestly don't think the Zoomies and Alphas know how to interact socially in public comfortably. A small PL and family story, but my oldest nephew is off at college and one of sister's coworker's daughter goes to the same school. Apparently the daughter saw my nephew, called her mom to say that, and then asked what to do. Like going over and just introducing yourself to someone in person is beyond them. Most people don't bite, unless you ask nicely.
These people are beyond lost and their parents are remarkable failures. Look, there's a point where you as a parent, just throw away the fucking screen and unplug the WiFi and tell them to talk like a human being. It doesn't matter if they don't. Eventually they'll cave. Social media is a fucking joke and should be banned universally.
 
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This is the kind of shit that makes me roll my eyes at women who claim to have issues dating.
 
I honestly don't think the Zoomies and Alphas know how to interact socially in public comfortably. A small PL and family story, but my oldest nephew is off at college and one of sister's coworker's daughter goes to the same school. Apparently the daughter saw my nephew, called her mom to say that, and then asked what to do. Like going over and just introducing yourself to someone in person is beyond them. Most people don't bite, unless you ask nicely.
When I was his age if you were online dating YOU were considered the weirdo but now it's the opposite? I'm not even that fucking old but I don't even know what is going on anymore.
I'm cusp millenial/Z, and in my interactions with core Zoomers I'm consistently one of the more personable, confident, and outgoing people. If you want to know why that's a massive indictment of the Zoomer generation, go into my profile and click the "postings" tab—pick something at random; literally any post.

Zoomers' biggest problem is that—as a general rule—they don't take initiative, they're too confrontation-averse, and they don't have real passions. The first two problems automatically make it nearly impossible for them to navigate unfamiliar social situations. In those kinds of confrontations—and they are confrontations—you need to be able to assert your own behavior as the standard. In the absence of clear rules, you make the rules.

Accommodation comes afterwards; sometimes you're going to look like an idiot for a moment (and that's a necessary fact of life), but with any luck your confidence convinces the other guy that he's the idiot—he accommodates to you. Zoomers are used to social media having neat little DM sections and follow/friend buttons, with clear hivemind-etiquette on when and when not to engage. They're not built for foreign territory.

That or they're just locked into the social media digital whorescape because the girls became cyborgs who are functionally unapproachable without it. One of the two.

Come to think of it I have no idea what I'm talking about but it sounded plausible in my mind so it's probably true
 
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Women don't love being with abusers. They just really love being with men who are physically attractive or have high social status, and will overlook and/or tolerate the most blatant red flags of abuse imaginable in the process. They'd rather have a 9/10 who occasionally smacks them around or leaves them with a black eye than a 5/10 who doesn't. Well, until the abuse inevitably escalates to something that leaves her in a hospital bed or shallow grave.
I'm more inclined to think that it's the other way around. The propensity for violence is what makes men attractive, not that attractive men will have their violence excused. Same sort of thing as the Halo Effect (though both can be at play, of course). If anything, men can make up for a lack of looks with displays of psychotic brutality.

imo @The Ugly One nailed it, re.: Dark Triad (or Tetrad, if you include sadism).
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Any of you guys ever date a girl and get the "Why don't you post photos of us on your Facebook....?" whining routine? I used to get this shit in spades and it was EVERY. SINGLE. GIRL. For a solid stretch from about 2010 to 2019 where pretty much every girl I dated complained about how I didn't post photos of us on social media. Nigga, I don't use social media. I hardly ever posted anything on social media. I don't take photos. I'm not a fucking chick.
Yeah, got a bit of that with the last one I was seeing. Apart from not being particularly photogenic (as well as having a preference for keeping my personal life, shocker, personal), I didn't want to post 'couples' shit, since - and I did tell her this - it would only compound the humiliation when (not if) she inevitably dumps me. She posted quite a lot of that stuff, though, and then promptly DFE'd the lot, after we split up. Like I never existed. That didn't twist the knife...
 
I'm more inclined to think that it's the other way around. The propensity for violence is what makes men attractive, not that attractive men will have their violence excused. Same sort of thing as the Halo Effect (though both can be at play, of course). If anything, men can make up for a lack of looks with displays of psychotic brutality.

imo @The Ugly One nailed it, re.: Dark Triad (or Tetrad, if you include sadism).
I have the good fortune to know an intelligent, self-aware woman, and she explained it, a man who can protect a woman from danger is sexy, but there's only a hair of difference between a man who protects from danger and a man who is the danger, and it can be really hard to tell at first.
 
Snapchat's even weirder to me. The only time I ever hear of Snapchat these days is from sex workers and OnlyFans girls who are trying to attract an "older crowd". Nobody uses Snapchat anymore. It's a dead app. Do young people actually use Snapchat? I thought Instagram won the social media wars and was the new default for everything. It's been unironically a few years since I've even heard of Snapchat outside of an alternate platform OF girls sometimes advertise on.
Some do, but I think it's mostly Instagram. I don't think it's anyone young's main platform.

These people are beyond lost and their parents are remarkable failures. Look, there's a point where you as a parent, just throw away the fucking screen and unplug the WiFi and tell them to talk like a human being. It doesn't matter if they don't. Eventually they'll cave. Social media is a fucking joke and should be banned universally.
My nephews are lucky, in that their parents made them do social things, play real sports, get jobs, and get away from the screens, so they're comparatively normal. There are some normal ones out there, but it's it's grim.

Zoomers' biggest problem is that—as a general rule—they don't take initiative, they're too confrontation-averse, and they don't have real passions. The first two problems automatically make it nearly impossible for them to navigate unfamiliar social situations. In those kinds of confrontations—and they are confrontations—you need to be able to assert your own behavior as the standard. In the absence of clear rules, you make the rules
This is true, even into some of the later millennials. Once had to explain to a later millennial that even though I said no, I was open to being persuaded, like the idea never crossed her mind. That she utterly fumbled her persuasion attempt after that was on her.
 
I think it’s retarded to call someone gay for trying to hold women to male standards. They’re not gay, just naive.

It's one of these retards 10 IQ-level coping mechanism.

"We should stop giving preferential treatment to women just because they have different anatomy"

Them: "OHHHH MY GAWD.. Y R u An INCEL... YOURE sexist... I bet U jerk Off To Anime... LONER... LOSERRRRRRR..."

Seriously, it's like these dumbfucks are afraid of accountability or no longer have the same special treatments they once head.
I don't care if you're a woman. I'm not going to treat you special just because all the rest of the male idiots decided to treat you like one.

You're not special. You were never special. And No. Men aren't your ragdolls to toss around freely.

If you want to feel like a princess, talk to your boyfriend or husband, but everyone in the society isn't an NPCs or are you the main character of this universe. Or do they have any moral obligations to serve you. Welcome to being treated equal as everyone else.
 
Women did not always act like this. I'm old enough to remember. Society certainly understood that women who were not properly socialized could act like this. Society knew they could be like this.

But is it being spoiled and having toxicity created? Seems like that could be a part of it, sure. Or is it teaching them healthy expectations of others and what others expect of them in the first place?
 
"Ew gross how dare men expect anything at all, least of all sex! They should do things for me purely for free, with no expectations at all. I, on the other hand, will be providing my company, the most precious gift of all. He is allowed to ask me out if he reads my mind correctly. If, IF I decide to reward him with a blowie later, he should be grateful for the complete surprise!"
"Wait why are so many men refusing to date me?"

It's a mystery. Nobody knows.
 
Yeah, but what's being nice, vs what's just being timid and afraid of being transgressive?

Henry is just being who he is, asshole and all. The nice guy is being reticent.
These mopey dudes can't believe that actually, in the world people often respect someone who's genuine but rough, over someone who's calculated but "nice" and over-socialized.

The female is right, nobody likes this guy. He probably does seem creepy.

Although that said, incels aren't totally wrong when they say women like jerks, and I've never liked that people pretend like they're totally crazy for saying that.
Some women absolutely, 100% straight up like men who are nasty self-absorbed pieces of shit, because the women themselves have issues and that's the sort of toxic dynamic they're most comfortable with.

You might be able to make it work by being dismissive to the point of cruelty towards them, but who wants to be involved with someone like that? It's like choking women in bed, you can do it if they want you to but it'll never feel natural.

Just have a dog around, for some reason animals liking you is considered an ironclad endorsement in women's minds.
 
As with all things, don't listen to the words women say, but understand the emotional place they come from. Women do in fact get upset when a nice guy complains about being lonely and single, and they ineptly try to explain this as "he's secretly a creep," which of course is retarded, but women are retarded, so this is to be expected.

What they're actually upset about is his weakness. Nothing is more repellent to a woman than weakness. They're actually disgusted that a weak man would consider himself as worthy of female attention as an obviously much stronger man. Henry might be a douchebag, but at least he isn't weak.
 
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This is the kind of shit that makes me roll my eyes at women who claim to have issues dating.
None of those guys behind the door give her the tingles, though.
If a girl tells you to add her to instagram you already lost.
You pass her your cellphone and make her write down her own number.
But that’s rape, though.
Come to think of it I have no idea what I'm talking about but it sounded plausible in my mind so it's probably true
It’s also a case of main character syndrome. Good things are just supposed to happen to them because they’re them. They’re also strongly averse to failure because they don’t want their friends list to think less of them. The concept of not absolutely nailing something the first time is beyond most people under 30 now. So they just do just enough to get by. They avoid failure but they also avoid success. In the world of social media, it’s always better to avoid the perception of failure.
 
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@The Noise asked on my wall what specific political outcomes the woman vote is responsible for. There are some obvious ones. The 1960, 2012, and 2020 elections were all swung by the woman vote, to name a few, so we can say any political outcomes downstream of those elections are due to the woman vote.

Abortion is not one of these policies. Despite the repeated attempts of Democrats to make abortion the signature "women's issue" over the last 50 years, women and men poll only marginally differently on abortion.

However, it's important to remember that both parties are beholden to women. Women's influence on the government goes far deeper than swinging a particular election (although when they do, it's for the Democrat). No party can win if it angers women. There are a number of government policies which are so overwhelmingly popular with women that, if you even spoke publicly in criticism of them, you could simply write off the next election.

The most obvious one is the wealth of policies and judicial decisions we have that are downstream from the Civil Rights Act that mandate favoritism toward women in the school, the university, and the workplace, and additional mandate feminine rules of behavior and socialization in those places. Since the CRA, women have dismantled the men's world via lawsuits, and the more feminized an institution becomes, the more crippled it is (ironically, the most effective women tend to complain about this as well, since they perform best in mostly-male environments). The ideal productive space is mostly men with a few exceptional women allowed in at the men's discretion. However, this is currently illegal, and any politician proposing to legalize this would lose the women's vote at a catastrophic level. The same goes for men's community organizations, which are illegal in the United States as well, thanks to women's votes and lawsuits.

Virtually no woman is going to read the above sympathetically. Most women abhor the concept of men organizing without a female authority figure being empowered to punish anyone who acts a little too boorish. One thing you commonly hear in the startup world is that the first major challenge a small company has when it grows to a certain size is abolishing its "boys' club" culture and reorganizing itself as a female-dominated space under social rules set by the woman who runs HR. If a politician were to propose taking away women's right to take over the culture of a company men built once it gets large and wealthy enough to attract them, he would get destroyed in the next election.

The list of things the female vote is truly responsible for is large, so I'm wrapping this up with a more broad sweep. There are a number of axes along which politics runs. One example, is safety/freedom. Voters want to be free to live their lives, but they also want to be safe from threats. A politician needs to find the right balance. Women lean a little more toward safety, men a little more toward freedom, but the difference is not immense. Where there is an immense difference, however, is the mean/nice axis and the closely related rude/polite axis. Men by and large do not give a shit whether a government policy is "mean," or a politician is "rude." Women do, and Donald Trump lost in 2020 largely because women perceived his policies as mean and his personal behavior as rude. Even in their personal lives, women's tolerance for insanity rather than be seen as mean or rude is legendary. So when you look at all the things our governments do in order to not be mean (such as not cleaning bums out from overpasses with fire hoses or hitting migrant caravans with JDAMs), or all the subjects which need to be dealt with, but don't get dealt with because it would be rude (like cross-dressers at work), you can blame women voters.
 
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Beautifully written and well said.
Virtually no woman is going to read the above sympathetically. Most women abhor the concept of men organizing without a female authority figure being empowered to punish anyone who acts a little too boorish. One thing you commonly hear in the startup world is that the first major challenge a small company has when it grows to a certain size is abolishing its "boys' club" culture and reorganizing itself as a female-dominated space under social rules set by the woman who runs HR.

I’ve noticed this trend happening recently, especially with how many women are currently hijacking men personal space. Even companies like the gaming industries that were originally founded by men are now eliminating the original male founders and replacing them with women at the forefront, many of them who aren’t skilled for the development or understand the mindset of the franchise they’re working on— Ubisoft and Halo studio come to mind.

Even just months ago, I had to explain to several female users as to why they’re not welcomed to the private Male community where a group of guys share real world talk and personal discussion to improve ourselves, to which of course they were upset and justify themselves that they were “allies”. Imagine if the situation was reversed and a group of normal guys ask to be let inside Women Only space — it would’ve ended badly, but yet these ladies (if they even earned that noun) are incapable of seeing their own hypocrisy.

I really wish someone would do a research as to why women crave entering male dominated space so badly, ie. Boy Scout, Football, Gentlemen Club, etc — whether the research is through Biology, Psychology, Sociology, or History.

Luckily, most men in today’s timeline has caught on with this insanity that if we let women in, they’re bound to change the rule that would fit them. The effective solution is to gate keep male dominated space and eliminating any potential male simps or feminists from being apart of the community.
 
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