Official Kiwifarms Woman-Hate Thread - DO NOT post about OTHER USERS or OTHER THREADS from THIS WEBSITE.

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

Women don't control access to relationships. See all the apps, and chatrooms asking "Are we dating the same guy?" Or all the women being "led on" by men they are in LTRs with, but not married to. Women assume because they fucked you, and they want a relationship that the two of you are in fact in one. That's not how it works. Pussy doesn't "seal the deal."

I think it's more that the only thing a man can control anymore is his level of commitment to a relationship. A woman can just fuck around on you or ghost you and what can you do about it? If the man wants a relationship, what can he do? At the same time, they can't make you commit unless you're dumb and get pregnancy trapped or something, you can always just go out for milk and Newports. But kinda like the sex point, if a woman wants to be in a relationship, she would be, men can't really say the same. Maybe not with as attractive a man as they would like, but they could. That's the "Femceldom" thing though, Femcels just aren't attractive enough to pull the men they want, it's not that they couldn't pull men.

When women talk about "Oh, I'm 24 and haven't ever dated," unless she's completely inhuman looking, she's likely been hooking up or in situationships, she just doesn't call it dating.

 

[cybertoaster]

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/jan/17/why-are-increasing-numbers-of-women-choosing-to-be-single

Quoting the guardian is only slightly more trustworthy than quoting stormfront.

 

[World Famous Quasi Payer]

But kinda like the sex point, if a woman wants to be in a relationship, she would be, men can't really say the same. Maybe not with as attractive a man as they would like, but they could. That's the "Femceldom" thing though, Femcels just aren't attractive enough to pull the men they want, it's not that they couldn't pull men.

If that were true, than incels don't exist either, because there is always a fat uggo out there.

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

If that were true, than incels don't exist either, because there is always a fat uggo out there.

The fat uggo is not going to fuck an incel. They don't want incels, they want attractive men and they're increasingly willing to forgo relationships if they don't get that, they'll just fuck around because there's always some guy willing to fuck, like the plapjak meme. Most of the incels wouldn't settle for a fat uggo either, but that's a different issue. Social media has fucked up the relationship and sexual marketplace.

 

[The Ugly One]

Incels can fuck prostitutes, but they don't want prostitutes. They want a woman who likes them.

 

[Ser Prize]

I think it's more that the only thing a man can control anymore is his level of commitment to a relationship. A woman can just fuck around on you or ghost you and what can you do about it? If the man wants a relationship, what can he do? At the same time, they can't make you commit unless you're dumb and get pregnancy trapped or something, you can always just go out for milk and Newports. But kinda like the sex point, if a woman wants to be in a relationship, she would be, men can't really say the same. Maybe not with as attractive a man as they would like, but they could. That's the "Femceldom" thing though, Femcels just aren't attractive enough to pull the men they want, it's not that they couldn't pull men.

When women talk about "Oh, I'm 24 and haven't ever dated," unless she's completely inhuman looking, she's likely been hooking up or in situationships, she just doesn't call it dating.

This, I've heard women describe themselves as 'single for years' because they apparently don't count getting a one night stand from Tinder whenever they feel insecure.

 

[Chunky Salsa]

This, I've heard women describe themselves as 'single for years' because they apparently don't count getting a one night stand from Tinder whenever they feel insecure.

I don't count one night stands as not being single. It's just a one night stand.

 

[Ser Prize]

I don't count one night stands as not being single. It's just a one night stand.

I still count it as being with someone, so I have to disagree.

 

[Nameless One]

They don't and they never have. Any woman at any time can walk up to any random, ask if they want to bone, and they'll get a yes in 15 minutes or less. Any woman can sign up on a dating app, date and marry the first man in her inbox. They CHOOSE not to. Men don't get to choose who they fuck. Women do.

You have a lovely and truly stable grasp on reality. Certainly not exaggerated at all. I'm sure you have a healthy view on women. You know why women don't ever talk to some of you fags? Shit like this is why. If I were a woman I'd avoid you too. Sorry for whatever happened to you that made you internalize this awful rhetoric.

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

Incels can fuck prostitutes, but they don't want prostitutes. They want a woman who likes them.

The one commonality with the various -cels is that most of the reason they can't get what they want is that they're shit people who believe that everyone else is to blame. None of them are willing to put in any work on themselves to actually get what they want. They want the 10/10 or Chad Thundercock treatment without earning it or deserving it. People can't even properly process the moving images on the idiot box not being reality, the human brain is completely fucked by social media, in the even recent past you had to deal with your options local to you, now everyone is competing against everyone. Especially the very heavily curated slices of people's lives you get on social media.

People just take the shit they see on the internet on face value. It's absolutely fucking wild.

This, I've heard women describe themselves as 'single for years' because they apparently don't count getting a one night stand from Tinder whenever they feel insecure.

They don't count, it wasn't a date. They don't consider it a date, so it's not. This is part of why asking a woman's body count is kinda silly, even if they're honest, what they count as a body is not likely going to be what you count as a body. The more important thing is how they treat you. High body count women tend to be shitty anyways, but if you ran into one that worshipped the ground you walk on, that counts for a lot in relationships.

 

[Dawdler]

If women are openly begging you to fuck them, congrats, you're in the top 10-20% of men in terms of attractiveness. Your experience is not the experience of most men. Out side of force, women control access to sex and these days relationships too. If you don't have a problem with those things, great, I hope that continues for you, but that's not most men these days.

Thanks for the warm wishes, but I'm not. I am average in every aspect. Slightly taller than average but that's that. I find it hard to imagine I am special in any way and that affects anything.
Women often come out creepy at me, stare at crotch, trying to grab you, hug you, put their arm on your shoulder and so on. I don't appreciate personal contact from people I don't know and the immediate body contact is - manipulative. I feel like a prey (or I'm getting mugged), not a human and it's really unnerving, because there's an agenda behind those unnatural motions.

Women assume because they fucked you, and they want a relationship that the two of you are in fact in one. That's not how it works. Pussy doesn't "seal the deal."

Well, if you are younger, it kind of does. Then you learn that you can't lead your life by thinking with your dick as well as hormones taper off so that makes whole thing easier. Life is full of traps and tricks and a lot of them are purely biological.

A woman can just fuck around on you or ghost you and what can you do about it?

Tell her she's for the streets. If she's banging every dude, you don't even have a relationship. I don't even have a word to describe this situation.

If the man wants a relationship, what can he do?

You ask her for commitment. If there's no result, you move on. Don't waste time on wrong people, life is short.
I completely stopped bothering even with that. You just accept you don't share their life and that's that. Ride it till wheels fall off and hop onto next bus.

When women talk about "Oh, I'm 24 and haven't ever dated," unless she's completely inhuman looking, she's likely been hooking up or in situationships, she just doesn't call it dating.

That is actually correct. Women have different standards than men when it comes to representing themselves. It is all protecting face tho. Unless you put spyware on her phone you will have no idea what's even going on. One of the dates had around 120 chats open with different men and she was not even 18. Her friend had over 300 and she was envious of her. That's a valuable insight that "you" are basically worth just as much an icon for free clout and envy.

She's not responding to you because she's typing with 10 other men.

This, I've heard women describe themselves as 'single for years' because they apparently don't count getting a one night stand from Tinder whenever they feel insecure.

That's because the appearance of "single and fertile" is more appetizing to men than - I only get laid by men that use me for one night and move on.
Women are masters at marketing themselves.

 

[Kujo Jotaro]

Imo a one night stand does not contribute in any way to being single or taken. One is only single in so far as they're not coupled; meaningless one time sex is not something we culturally associate with being part of a couple. Being part of a couple is being married or dating, so when a hoe tells you she's been single for years she very well may have been, it's a nice little loophole.

 

[The Ugly One]

Women often come out creepy at me, stare at crotch, trying to grab you, hug you, put their arm on your shoulder and so on.

This is not the experience of about 95% of men. You must smell like you have a lot of money, I don't know.

 

[dame dudi jench]

This is not the experience of about 95% of men. You must smell like you have a lot of money, I don't know.

In an era of obesity, if you are fit and at least 5”10 women are generally very attracted, for the grabby stuff to happen people need to be drunk or enjoying drugs. Or that guy might just be paranoid schizophrenic that’s a common delusion to have.

 

[Dawdler]

This is not the experience of about 95% of men. You must smell like you have a lot of money, I don't know.

Ok, I'll take it back. I don't know what I'm talking about then.

 

[Idiot Doom Spiral]

Ok, I'll take it back. I don't know what I'm talking about then.

Heard that. I’ve seen long, borderline autistic posts like yours on men’s forums many times before - claiming ‘average guy gets sexual advances on the reg’. It’s usually either a troll, a cunt in disguise or someone who goons so hard that reality and fantasy are now indistinguishable.

I can promise any interested onlookers on this thread that no poster on KF to date has had ‘women staring and grabbing at their crotch’ de rigeur.

 

[Ser Prize]

Ok, I'll take it back. I don't know what I'm talking about then.

I've only ever been approached by a girl once: I was 12, she was 16 and an african exchange student. So yeah, your experience is definitely irregular. Good for you, though.

 

[MAAAD]

Thanks for all the replies, fellas. Yeah, on a second thought I think I rushed to conclusions there and will listen to my father's advice for now. I was probably just being awkward again, overthinking shit and making too big of a deal out of nothing. Fukken cringe.

 

[Ultrapenguin]

Fukken cringe.

That's ok, this thread is cringe.

Look at it.

I think perhaps if someone hasn't felt the touch of a female in years they should not be allowed to post in here. We'll accept affectionate hugs, maybe even if it's from your mom (since I think most incel types don't bother to hug their mom).

In an era of obesity, if you are fit and at least 5”10 women are generally very attracted, for the grabby stuff to happen people need to be drunk or enjoying drugs.

In the era of everyone being a sad, isolated, emotionally hollowed out husk people are happy if you're a human being who's willing to understand them. There are tons of sad women/people who would like someone to be sad with.

If you're physically healthy and have at least average appearance as well, you're made in the shade.
The key is you have to have a sense of self and not be a faggot though. If you're a faggot without a real personality you'd have to be devastatingly handsome with 10/10 model looks to make up for it, which like .00001% of men actually have.

 

[Bungdit Din]

whiteknighting faggotry

'fuck outta here.

What the hell, double post...

The Rule Zero guys have been kicking around "She's not yours, it's just your turn," for a bit, it's made a lot of people angry on Twitter, especially men. The point of it is that we don't own women, they can leave whenever they want these days, there's nothing we can really do about it directly, so enjoy what you've got while you've got it. Of course, your turn can be the rest of either of your lives, which is what the angry people have missed. It's a hard lesson when you're in the middle of it, believe me I know, and sometimes when they're done, they're just done. I think that's a bit of a mercy sometimes, having a woman slowly shifting to mixed messages and trying to keep you as an orbiter sucks.

Yup. That phrase is now indelibly inscribed on my soul. When she finally left, I was actually relieved - part of me was, anyway. I think, for both of us, the negatives started to outweigh the positives - the physical side was fine, and always was (we'd bang each others brains out, and all would be well for a while), it was just... everything else. And I know the other n-word gets thrown around a lot, these days, but the relationship followed the narcissistic pattern:

-Love bombing
-Devaluation
-Discard
-Hoovering

A cycle I only discovered afterwards, btw, but things suddenly made a lot more sense, once I'd seen it described. I'm a bit of a covert narcissist myself, I suspect, but she was full-on. Haven't heard from her in a while, but she was still trying to draw me back in for several years, post breakup, even after I'd sacked up and gone no-contact. I can report that I didn't fold, mainly because I know I'd still be vulnerable to her... charms (much as I'd still like to fuck her again). One good blowjob and it'd be back on the plantation...